Skyward Sword Graphics

Originally Posted by AzraelBlack

Well really, the demo shows the most epic Zora dive there could possibly be.

N64 quality, DESIGN?

LOLWUT?

whats there to not understand?

Well the fact that design has nothing at all to do with what system a game is on.

Secondly if what you were actually referring to was the graphics. Then you must have the fuzziest vision ever, because the Wii functions at 128bit - 480p.

Meaning that you're wrong from a technical standpoint.

Originally Posted by Melpomene

SS has its own new unique twist between TP and WW. So why be annoyed that it doesn't look like something else. Wait until you see more than one area.

One of the problems is that the visuals for SS are hardly unique. It is very easy to read what Miyamoto and Aonuma have been saying about the Impressionism inspired visuals and go "wow, what a nice concept," but, sadly, what looks a lot like WW and TP overlaps the whole idea of Impressionism. The demo of SS looks like everything we've seen before-- how do you conclude that it looks unique, even when compared to other games out there?

SS's approach can be said to be better executed by one of the latest Prince of Persia games:







Prince of Persia is one of the many games with artsy visuals, and it looks beautiful and, yes, unique. Both unique terms of its own series and of other games.
Arguably, SS, while still aiming for artsy visuals, could have achieved a more attractive look. One of the things I had been saying prior to e3 is how ZWii may had been presented with oil on panel visuals that evoke Renaissance art. Focus on drapery, more realistic environments, and amazing locales would have resulted in a realistic and artsy presentation that would surely be more attractive than what SS is now and would be on par with Prince of Persia while still differing with unique aspects that PoP wouldn't offer.
Again, the concept of Impressionism is very nice, but I don't see it in SS at all. I don't read interviews and immediately go telling everybody that when I think of Impressionism, I think of SS (not that you are saying that).

Originally Posted by AzraelBlack

Well the fact that design has nothing at all to do with what system a game is on.

Secondly if what you were actually referring to was the graphics. Then you must have the fuzziest vision ever, because the Wii functions at 128bit - 480p.

Meaning that you're wrong from a technical standpoint.

I just got sick of using the word "Graphics" so i Assumed people would get the jest of what i was talking about. However I STILL dont see what your getting at here. why do i have "fuzzy vision"

Originally Posted by Apexman13

I just got sick of using the word "Graphics" so i Assumed people would get the jest of what i was talking about. However I STILL dont see what your getting at here. why do i have "fuzzy vision"

Because if you think this:


Looks like this:


You're clearly going blind and loosing the focus in your vision.

The water in that kind of seems like background that you can't interact with.
But it looks alright.
I want something like this. It sure should be better that that. Mario Sunshine is old now, a GC game. So I hope the water is something like that.

Something like that but a little less bright blue. Maybe a deeper blue would suit it more.

Prince of Persia is one of the many games with artsy visuals, and it looks beautiful and, yes, unique. Both unique terms of its own series and of other games.

Thoose pictures are artsy and all, but they are nothing like impressionism or the style the new game is going for. It's trying to look more like this, than the standard vanilla fantasy art that the Prince of Persia has.

It's especially evident in the sky in this pic.

Originally Posted by AzraelBlack

Because if you think this:


Looks like this:


You're clearly going blind and loosing the focus in your vision.

im sorry, your second picture doesnt seem to be working, (oh well i figured it out still)

Im not comparing the whole entire game to N64 silly! im just talking about the waterfall picture i posted.

i mean look at the sharp edges of land between the water. plus the smeared texture. this is what leads me to believe that this is just background and is not meant to be accessed by the player.

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

Thoose pictures are artsy and all, but they are nothing like impressionism or the style the new game is going for. It's trying to look more like this, than the standard vanilla fantasy art that the Prince of Persia has.

It's especially evident in the sky in this pic.

Are you implying that the visual approach of Prince of Persia is more generic than those of SS?
If the developers didn't have a chance to say that the SS visuals were influenced by Impressionism, nobody here would be praising the admittedly nice concept of evoking Cezanne through SS's presentation; however, SS's demo shows the familiar exaggerated enemy models and predictable environments of WW and TP running on minimalistic textures and a hint of those artsy brushstrokes for the attempt of evoking Impressionism. It's just an attempt, and it's not at all noteworthy or breathtaking.

I'm hoping the final product does achieve that attempt of truly presenting an Impressionistic Zelda, but at this point, I think the real thing is going to look pretty much like the demo.

Originally Posted by Melpomene

The water in that kind of seems like background that you can't interact with.
But it looks alright.
I want something like this. It sure should be better that that. Mario Sunshine is old now, a GC game. So I hope the water is something like that.

Something like that but a little less bright blue. Maybe a deeper blue would suit it more.

SMS had some of the most realistic water i've ever seen better than TP even.

Originally Posted by Apexman13

SMS had some of the most realistic water i've ever seen better than TP even.

I wouldnt say better than tp but it was pretty good, i have to check but i think the water is still used in SMG

Hopefully the water will look good in real time, but dont get your hopes up,
I still feel as though the impressionist art style is a cover up, because ive seen paintings and SS is not actually ...................................

Are you implying that the visual approach of Prince of Persia is more generic than those of SS?
If the developers didn't have a chance to say that the SS visuals were influenced by Impressionism, nobody here would be praising the admittedly nice concept of evoking Cezanne through SS's presentation; however, SS's demo shows the familiar exaggerated enemy models and predictable environments of WW and TP running on minimalistic textures and a hint of those artsy brushstrokes for the attempt of evoking Impressionism. It's just an attempt, and it's not at all noteworthy or breathtaking.

Yes, while PoP has FANTASTIC graphics and the art design looks great for the game, it is hardly original or groundbreaking.
I will admit that the models themselves are not that interesting, but look at the way the sky looks, and the shading of the models is really cool/ unique. http://kotaku.com/5564654/zelda-deta...-not-make-2010 like the sky here,

The lava also looks SWEET here.

This is IN GAME, in looks like a sketch, its awesome


The entire Forest/waterfall/mountain area look painted here too

I also reallllly like the look of this tree.



If your basing you concerns off of the demo area, I seriously doubt that'll be in the actual game anyway, it's not really surprising to me that it wasn't polished. It looked like it was made for the sake of being a demo area.

Originally Posted by Melpomene

Why?
I don't know how these graphics can be not liked without a reason.

Sometimes there isn't much reason behind what one likes or dislikes. Some people just don't like the cartoony look. Perhaps they like more serious looking games (like me, for example).

Originally Posted by Melpomene

A lot of things may look "childish" as some people have said. But that doesn't make the story or meaning childish.

True, but the look of the game is still childish. Which many of us have a hard time with.

Originally Posted by Melpomene

It is a game afterall, half the games are made for people under 20.

I wouldn't say that. You have games for kids, games for any age and games for adults.

Originally Posted by Melpomene

But look at animated movies. Even though they are made for children, they have some strong messages behind them. Some even have adult jokes and contexts in there.

And usually they're put in there for the sake of the adults bringing their kids to the movie. Doesn't really mean two adults are gonna go out together and see that particular animated film.

Originally Posted by Melpomene

So calling something childing solely on a 3 minute demonstration is hardly logical.

/rant.

It's very logical. It LOOKS childish. End of.

you guys seriously like those fuzzy blurred affects where u can barely make anything out of what it is?

sry, but i cant call that "art" when i can barely make out the stuff im looking at. theres many other games that made use of art styled graphics without that blurry effect. its honestly not needed. infact its just plain annoying on the eyes. ESPECIALLY if you just woke up....

And usually they're put in there for the sake of the adults bringing their kids to the movie. Doesn't really mean two adults are gonna go out together and see that particular animated film.

I saw toy story 3 with my girlfriend, we are both adults. It was a good movie. End of story.

sry, but i cant call that "art" when i can barely make out the stuff im looking at. theres many other games that made use of art styled graphics without that blurry effect. its honestly not needed. infact its just plain annoying on the eyes. ESPECIALLY if you just woke up....

The only picture that's Kind of blury is the one on the ledge with the mountain and waterfall there. And the one that looks like a sketch, but personally, in the case of the sketch picture, I think that makes it all the more amazing.

Originally Posted by Twilit Mask of Time

I saw toy story 3 with my girlfriend, we are both adults. It was a good movie. End of story.

Wrong. Toy Story 3 was definitely more for the adults who were kids back when the first two came out.

Originally Posted by Enuf3

Wrong. Toy Story 3 was definitely more for the adults who were kids back when the first two came out.

But it looks childish.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

But it looks childish.

It's a children's movie for adults. Pixar has already established it's connection to adult viewers.

Zelda on the other hand.. well, it's all over the place. It doesn't know what it's target is.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

But it looks childish.

In your face Enuf3 XD
I love SS graphic style,is like a painting comes alive. I want to see more.

Originally Posted by smallville boy

In your face Enuf3 XD
I love SS graphic style,is like a painting comes alive. I want to see more.

How is it in my face?

When did I ever crucify SS for anything other than how crappy it looks in the E3 footage?

And to even compare SS to Toy Story is absurd. TS has a beautiful art style, whereas SS looks like a poorly made game for children.

The subject goes a little deeper than you can handle, Smallville boy.