Ikana's Twilight Princess review.

Actually on TP's overworld you don't have to fall into some random hole in order to find something new, there are neat things all over every province. There are over 30 heart pieces crammed on the overworld. So there is obviously something to explore. =/ What the heck are you basing this off of anyways?

Dumb review is dumb, think truthfully next time you make a review instead of writing something for the sole purpose of getting attention. Or join the group or rabid fanboys who spend all day on OoT's/TP's score rater giving the game a 1.0 over and over again just so that the score's average will go down. Why don't you do that instead, you'll look great after that. Too bad you're going to need multiple computers in order for it to mean something.

You basically sound like this guy Find something better to do, for our sake and yours.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

Actually on TP's overworld you don't have to fall into some random hole in order to find something new, there are neat things all over every province. There are over 30 heart pieces crammed on the overworld. So there is obviously something to explore. =/ What the heck are you basing this off of anyways?

Dumb review is dumb, think truthfully next time you make a review instead of writing something for the sole purpose of getting attention. Or join the group or rabid fanboys who spend all day on OoT's/TP's score rater giving the game a 1.0 over and over again just so that the score's average will go down. Why don't you do that instead, you'll look great after that. Too bad you're going to need multiple computers in order for it to mean something.

You basically sound like this guy Find something better to do, for our sake and yours.

#1: Hold on, lemme give a count of heart pieces.

Total pieces needed to make heart container: 5

Total hearts: 20.

Total bosses that give heart containers: 8

Total hearts after those hear containers: 11

Total Hearts left to get: Nine

Pieces left: Nine X 5==45.

So yeah, there's 45 pieces of hearts. I like those heart pieces. They give me reason to explore. The over world is just to big for that to be enough! I just wanted more rewards, that's all. And I'm basing it against, well, Oblivion. And if another game series that's newer is starting to look better than Zelda (That's up to opinion) then you know something is wrong.

Yes, I know Oblivions overword was GIGANTIC. It also had enough in it to justify the size. TP's over world was big, but there wasn't enough in it to justify it (IMO).

EDIT: There just isn't enough content on top OR on bottom of the world to give it a good rating in my opinion.

#2: EDIT AGAIN: Ignore number 2, I thought this was review again.

#3: No, I don't think I will. I rather like this community, you see and so does Ikana.

TP was an uneccesary game. This series is more than 20 years old, and TP introduced nothing unique to the series. On top of that, it didn't accomplish what I believe it was supposed to accomplish. I was given the impression that TP was supposed to be for the more die-hard fans of the series, and the more mature fans of the seriee. It was supposed to be a darker game, a more epic game. TP fell flat on it's face in accomplishing the goal I thought it was supposed to accomplish. Instead, it has put the Zelda series in jeopardy of going stale.

You thought wrong. Don't play a game expecting anything, you'll ruin yourself. Eiji Aonuma said he didn't want it to be dark, he just wanted it to feel mysterious. I nevertheless thought Twilight Princess was easily the most epic Zelda game. There were countless times when I started shaking from excitment or got chills from sheer win.

I think both TWW and TP are beautiful. Though at times they're on the ugly side. Both TWW and TP have certain points in the game that made me go wow. I can easily say I was mesmerized by Twilight Princess, it's such a great game. Anyone who thinks otherwise go ahead and have fun with that. But don't go around making the game seem like an abomination. It simply isn't. No game could win so many awards and create some much fan media without being awesome. Go rate your 1.0s. No one really gives a crap because it just can't be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by MYK1217

TP was an uneccesary game. This series is more than 20 years old, and TP introduced nothing unique to the series. On top of that, it didn't accomplish what I believe it was supposed to accomplish. I was given the impression that TP was supposed to be for the more die-hard fans of the series, and the more mature fans of the seriee. It was supposed to be a darker game, a more epic game. TP fell flat on it's face in accomplishing the goal I thought it was supposed to accomplish. Instead, it has put the Zelda series in jeopardy of going stale.

This, as well as Ikanas post is pretty much my view along with bad level designs and blatent geographical stupidity. Zelda seems to be both has gotten stale, but the community is starting to fracture (By the looks of the attacks on the OP there getting pretty bad) Yes, TP Princess Characters looked like there from Doctor Suess, Yes, the Soundtrack was basic remixes made in dinasour synth, Yes the Plot was awful and it was as dark and deep as a episode of Pokemon, Yes the Overworld and Towns was Empty but since TP we had PH, and that was WORSE. Is that the Quality of game were happy with? Because if it is, This downwards spiral is just going to get worse until the community is so split and bitter it effects the sales of the game, And it does happen just look at Forgotten Realms.

Twilight Princess had none of the flaws you just mentioned.

And you guys need to just shut up and stop hating on a game just because it's "cool and edgy" to hate on the latest console Zelda title. Like it or not, there is no legitimate excuse to say TP is a bad game. And if you played TP hoping for extreme innovation, you played for the wrong reasons.

And we had nothing but pure innovation for the entire 8 years prior to TP's release. The series needed to return to perfect form one more time, and it did. Stop being whiny fanboy morons and play the game for what it is. TP did exactly the same thing for the franchise that ALTTP did. It revolutionized a gameplay formula introduced in a previous game. TP perfected OoT's gameplay formula just as ALTTP perfected LoZ's gameplay formula. Because TP makes so many vast improvements in the formula since OoT, it is simply stupid and idiotic to call TP an inferior game. Grow up.

Originally Posted by Link92

Twilight Princess had none of the flaws you just mentioned.

And you guys need to just shut up and stop hating on a game just because it's "cool and edgy" to hate on the latest console Zelda title. Like it or not, there is no legitimate excuse to say TP is a bad game. And if you played TP hoping for extreme innovation, you played for the wrong reasons.

And we had nothing but pure innovation for the entire 8 years prior to TP's release. The series needed to return to perfect form one more time, and it did. Stop being whiny fanboy morons and play the game for what it is. TP did exactly the same thing for the franchise that ALTTP did. It revolutionized a gameplay formula introduced in a previous game. TP perfected OoT's gameplay formula just as ALTTP perfected LoZ's gameplay formula. Because TP makes so many vast improvements in the formula since OoT, it is simply stupid and idiotic to call TP an inferior game. Grow up.

Irony Much?

There is a whiney Fan boy here.
You.

There game does have flaws, the fact you have the IQ of a ball does not change that, TP was hardly a "perfect form" it was old, dated and stale. Its not "cool and edgy" to hate games for the sake of it, Just when there sub par, TP makes next to NO improvements on the game, and calling it superior is just as retarded, so Ill leave you with your own phrase whiney fan boy. People don't like TP.

Grow up.

Wah wah wah. I heard it for MM, I heard it for TWW and now I hear it for TP. If fans want to say that every Zelda game sucks then go ahead. Stick to your dedicated opinions of extreme hate. It doesn't really matter because there will always be an equal amount of fans that play Zelda without acting like complete babies. And for that reason there is hope. Hope that maybe. Just maybe this fanbase isn't as b****y is it looks like its been for the past decade.

I for one enjoy Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and The Wind Waker. And I will defend them just to prove that some opinions are extreeemely exaggerated or simply stupid.

Points pretty much proved. Babies shouldn't throw stones.

Im sick of the WAH WAH! MEGA WINGE! NOT EVERYONE LOVES MA FIRST ZELDA GAME! omg! omg! its new so it must be the best! *foam at the mouth*

Originally Posted by Celvantis

Points pretty much proved.

What? That people complain for the sake of complaining? You don't have to love every Zelda game. Infact you don't even have to play them! What's the obsession with giving amazing games bad reviews?

OoOoH yeah. Twilight Princess was my firstest game! I'm only 10 yearz old. Not. I've played every Zelda on the list. I can respect a good opinion. You don't have to like anything if you don't want to. Twilight Princess isn't even close to my favorite Zelda game. It doesn't matter! This bull crap is bull. Play the game for what it is. This Zelda is a master piece. It is pure gold. And, yeah, talking down to it is stupid. I'm sure it's fun to bring things down, but really? Really? Back in 1998 people rated OoT "zero" over and over again to bring ratings down. when MM came out people did it even more! Wind Waker was another victim. It shouldn't be like this. We're Zelda fans. You can hate a Zelda game without going out of your way to rant about it at EVERY GIVEN CHANCE. I know, if I can do it then so can everyone else. Hating a Zelda game does not make it any worse to the person next to you.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

What? That people complain for the sake of complaining? You don't have to love every Zelda game. Infact you don't even have to play them! What's the obsession with giving amazing games bad reviews?

And you have to winge like mad about people not liking a -GAME- how sad is your life? seriously? People didnt like it, Its not complaining for the sake of it. There discussing why they didn't enjoy it they did not set out to not like it.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

What? That people complain for the sake of complaining? You don't have to love every Zelda game. Infact you don't even have to play them! What's the obsession with giving amazing games bad reviews?

???

Okay, I won't play TP. I'll stick to my OoT, MM and WW...

... too late, I've already played TP.


We WANT to love the newer Zeldas like we loved the older ones. We just can't, however.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

What? That people complain for the sake of complaining? You don't have to love every Zelda game. Infact you don't even have to play them! What's the obsession with giving amazing games bad reviews?

For it wasn't an "amazing game", but an outdated, childish, and rushed one.

To be fair, Ikana was simply stating his opinions. I dont agree with them at all but you know. I dont think it would be fair to see this thread become just like the others, where people are arguing about the same damned thing over and over again.

6 year olds are suppose to be able to beat Zelda.

No ****!! I beat LoZ around that age and apparently alot of people these days have a huge problem with First Quest.

Originally Posted by Ikana General

For it wasn't an "amazing game", but an outdated, childish, and rushed one.

Valid statement, but ignoring Ratchet and Clank for a while...

Originally Posted by Double A

???

Okay, I won't play TP. I'll stick to my OoT, MM and WW...

... too late, I've already played TP.


We WANT to love the newer Zeldas like we loved the older ones. We just can't, however.

That's fine. Absolutely nothing can change an opinion. Only you can do that. I just feel that people would rather focus on the bad instead of the good. Look, if you're looking to be disappointed, you'll get it. Play Zelda for fun, not for baws. I've gone through this for every major title. It's not new to me. It's simply getting old. I hear the same exact thing from OoT haters, MM haters and TWW haters. Don't you ever get sick of saying the same with over and over again. "I hate TP." "I hate TP." "Hopping is bad because it's the same thing as using a hookshot, obviously." "Sand is dumb" "I don't like having fun when I play TP" Okay, I get it. Focus on something new, instead of writing reviews to get attention because you gave it a 6.5 or a 0.1. =/

And that's all. *listens to Wind Waker music while drawing*

Originally Posted by Link92

Twilight Princess had none of the flaws you just mentioned.

And you guys need to just shut up and stop hating on a game just because it's "cool and edgy" to hate on the latest console Zelda title. Like it or not, there is no legitimate excuse to say TP is a bad game. And if you played TP hoping for extreme innovation, you played for the wrong reasons.

And we had nothing but pure innovation for the entire 8 years prior to TP's release. The series needed to return to perfect form one more time, and it did. Stop being whiny fanboy morons and play the game for what it is. TP did exactly the same thing for the franchise that ALTTP did. It revolutionized a gameplay formula introduced in a previous game. TP perfected OoT's gameplay formula just as ALTTP perfected LoZ's gameplay formula. Because TP makes so many vast improvements in the formula since OoT, it is simply stupid and idiotic to call TP an inferior game. Grow up.

You, sir, are the definition of a whiney fanboy. Thus, you are also a hypocrite.

If you liked TP, fine. Nothing wrong with that. And I understand why the game was so well recieved. We're not saying people are wrong in liking the game. Some fans of the series prefer the old formula and nothing to be changed. They like Zelda just the way it is. Others, like myself, want to see something unique with every game. We want the series to remain fresh. There's nothing wrong with either preference. Telling other people that they're wrong for hating TP is just being arrogant. So, please, just stop it. You're embarrassing yourself.

Ah Link92. I probably love TP more than you do, but...don't diss OoT, MM or ALttP in an attempt to make TP look better. =/ It shines quite well on its own.

I'm not a fanboy by any measure of the word. I like every Zelda game I ever played and I don't nitpick flaws that aren't even serious enough to be considered flaws. It's funny how people define a fanboy as somebody who dares to disagree with somebody's dislike of a game.

By "perfect form," I in no way called TP perfect. I have already mentioned its flaws many times, although they are not serious enough for me to deny the fact that TP is my favorite game in the series.

I don't bash games for not being "different" enough. I don't look for innovation in a game, I look for how fun the game is.

And I also don't bash OoT and ALTTP to try to make TP look better. The three are my top favorite Zelda games, but there's no denying the fact that the former two's flaws are ignored in order to bash the newest console game, and that's when I remind people that their cherished memories are not as perfect as they think.

Not, another one. I'm getting tired of all these fanboy complaints.
As a relatively new member of the Zelda series I may not be as well versed in Zelda history as the rest, but that doen't mean that I can't sense a trend going on here. Tv tropes calls it an unpleasable fanbase. The fandom is split in two, the tradition feild and the innvoation feild. Each side is too blinded to see that there are benefits in all styles of Zelda games.
I started with TP and have worked my way back to the first two Zelda games. Every game except for ALttP and Majora's Mask have been essentially the same adventure with new elements. Do I want change? Yes but I also accet that change comes slowy toward Nintendo.
But not every single change is good. You get good ideas that look really good but are poorly executes. take sailing in WW. The overworld was large and vast and everything but it didn't make itself feel like I wanted to explore it. Why? Becuase it was poorly executed. You had to actually stop to fight monsters, most of your time was staring at the sky. Wolf Link, another brilliant idea but let down becuase theu forced you through akward tutorials and then forgot about the idea when it had potential.
What TP did was refine Zelda. The combat was better the graphics were as relaistic as the GC can handle and the controls worked well. There were new elements were however held back by Nintendo's insistant on tradition. This has resulted in TP bieng the current target of Zelda fanboys, traditionalists say it' "not Zelda enough" while other's say "It's just a Zelda Cliche storm."
I perosnally I think it's good, not one of the series finest but superior to any spin off game.
9/10