Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

Originally Posted by triforcefist

Riiight so we shouldnt use what MIYAMOTO says as any hint to whats in a game. We should just use our gut feeling?

Because Miyamoto NEVER changes his mind. I must be wrong to think what he said is possibly leading many gamers on (not myself, I refuse to be led on by anything other than pure fact or solid proof/evidence). My, my...it seems he never confirmed nor denied the idea, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what develops.

And to say she isnt related to the Master Sword for personal bias reasons is the same as looking at the evidence and making a judgment about it?

You sound like a broken record now. That's when I change the tune by throwing the old record in the garbage. That's what I'm doing to what you're saying to me because I've heard "Bias" come forth from your fingertips enough times to make anyone a little annoyed. Punk.

If you must know (and I will tell you) to say she isn't related to the Master Sword is not from "personal bias", you @$$, but because I think she looks more like the Great Fairy. I see the similarities between her and the sword itself, but I'm pulling the coincidence card on that one, especially since that jewel on her chest in no way matches the one on the Master Sword. The belt is nothing more that that...a belt. It merely resembles the hilt because it curves around her waist? Give me a break. That's just speculation. And don't get me started on what Miyamoto said because I've already expressed my feelings on that.

She's connected to the Master Sword = gimmick? Hahaha wow, Can you make your bias any more clear?

Perhaps I'm not entitled to my opinion on an open forum? Perhaps my perception and interpretation of things as they stand is in your eyes evidence of some kind of bias on my part. So you ridicule me instead of contesting my views with ideas of your own? I'm open to suggestions, and so far nothing's convinced me otherwise. Perhaps if you were more firm in your own convictions you'd be a better man for the job of trying to convince me that this girl is the Master Sword or somehow related to it in some way. Instead, you've proven to me that you'd rather just make fun of others in any way you know how. That, to me, shows a lack of character and serious self esteem issues on your part. Learn to deal with people better, treat what I say with more respect, and then I can talk with you again. Otherwise if you persist in this pattern then I'm just going to ignore you from now on. You're probably not the type that enjoys being ignored, are you? You like having people hear what you have to say? Well, if you prove not to have a single decent bone in your body by furthering your parade of intolerance for people who do not think like you then you will no longer exist to me.

Originally Posted by Senap

Are you seriously saying that Link would swing HER around?

Don't you think that she would somehow "enter" the MS and Link would swing it like usual (Think Minda in Link's shadow)?

Way to not read what I said, I said if shes the master sword what would we swing around for a sword? Pretty sure something that is that huge(Picture may just make her that big to say shes important, may not be her actual size) could not fit into something so small. Also why the MS? Why not links eyeball? Why not his clothes? Why does she have to be a part of anything? How come she jsut cant retain her physical form and walk around like NORMAL things for once?

Also what makes you think shes your companion? Nothing has been proven relating to the girl, everybodys just speculating. Also if this thing comes outta the sword then Zelda is ****ed. I can understand midna riding on your back as the wolf and being your shadow, but a being inside the sword that comes out whenever is ****ed beyond belief. Nintendo can not logically explain why a person is in the MS LOL

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

How come she jsut cant retain her physical form and walk around like NORMAL things for once?

Because Miyamoto never confirmed nor denied this theory so hopeful people are clamoring over themselves to say that she indeed has something to do with the Master Sword, even so far as to say that she IS the Master Sword personified/resides within the Master Sword.

Guys, Miyamoto is the KING of changing his mind whenever he feels like it. If any of you remember back to when OoT was in development you would know that the game went in many different directions before they finally settled on the gameplay/storyline/characters/etc.. To say this won't happen again is presumptuous, just as saying that this woman has something to do with the Master Sword is presumptuous. Stop trying to spread rumors as fact (not all of you are doing this, but those who are need to stop bashing the people who say things contrary to the belief that she has something to do with the Master Sword).

Also what makes you think shes your companion? Nothing has been proven relating to the girl, everybodys just speculating.

Thank you.

Nintendo can not logically explain why a person is in the MS LOL

I'll actually contest you on that. If she does reside within the sword or even is the personification of said sword, then Nintendo is perfectly within its rights to make it so. Magic doesn't have anything to do with logic. It just happens, which is why it's called Magic. I mean, this is a fantasy game series. How can a Mask logically change a person into a Deku Scrub or a Goron? Magic. How can a little flute change the flow of time? Magic. How does a sword shoot magical beams? 'Nuff said on that.

The only thing we don't know for sure is her relation to the MS. I see more evidence pointing towards a relation to the Fairy Queen (the design closely resembling the one from WW). Just because the picture shows Link without a sword doesn't mean it has taken the form of that woman. He's also without a shield in that same piece of artwork. Can we deduce that his shield has also transformed into a living, breathing being? Hard to imagine that also being the case. I'm sure his Hookshot becomes a snake. His boomerang is a bird. His bow and arrows yet another living thing. The list goes on, I mean...what other item is not shown in that picture? It must also be up and walking around somewhere, right?

I still have to applaude all the speculators in 2005 who swore up and down that Link was a wolf before it was confirmed. =/ I wasn't going to buy into that until the 3rd trailer. I just don't see how this is bogus when compared to other Zelda spins. I mean, Link's hat was a minish sage. Link's shadow had a princess in it. Link's boomerang had a fairy spirit in it. Link has turned into a bunny, a wolf and several different races.

Next thing you know they'll reveal Link's tights to, in actuality, be Ganondorf's daughter! It'll be an amazing plot twist. xD

i would like to have tights like that


anyway i do agree with her resembling the great fairy. but u will never know wut she is until more information is revealed, and until then how can u actually argue with sumone and say they are wrong wen u have no CONCRETE FACTS to prove your point?

plus the girls on Links back just like where the sword would rest

Originally Posted by [Cartoon]--Link

anyway i do agree with her resembling the great fairy. but u will never know wut she is until more information is revealed, and until then how can u actually argue with sumone and say they are wrong wen u have no CONCRETE FACTS to prove your point?

1. Never said anyone was wrong, just that I disagree until I am proven otherwise.

2. Telling someone they have no concrete facts tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about. Because there are indeed concrete facts and hints and bits of evidence there can always be room for argument.

3. We're not telling people they can't debate because the true information isn't revealed yet. Stop trying to stifle people's personal opinions. That's not what forums are about.

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Way to not read what I said, I said if shes the master sword what would we swing around for a sword?

Link would swing... the Master Sword.... obviously...

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Pretty sure something that is that huge(Picture may just make her that big to say shes important, may not be her actual size) could not fit into something so small.

Your imagination is quite limited, isn't it. How the heck could Midna fit in Link's shadow? The shadow is flat for christ's sake.

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Also why the MS? Why not links eyeball? Why not his clothes? Why does she have to be a part of anything?

A spirit in Link's eyeball, very creative. The MS is the holy grail of Zelda, that's why.

A girl in Link's clothes would probably upset some people. Not me though

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

How come she jsut cant retain her physical form and walk around like NORMAL things for once?

No one said that she must be the MS. But it sure is one of the better fan-theories, especially when you think about Miyamoto's confusing hint and the fact that Link has no sword in the picture.

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Also what makes you think shes your companion?

The first art that they release is usually of Link, Zelda, the new companion and Ganon(dorf).

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Nothing has been proven relating to the girl, everybodys just speculating.

Thanks for pointing that out *facepalm*

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Also if this thing comes outta the sword then Zelda is ****ed. I can understand midna riding on your back as the wolf and being your shadow, but a being inside the sword that comes out whenever is ****ed beyond belief.

Do you really think that a spirit in a sword (which is a total cliché anyway) is that far-fetched? There was a spirit in Link's boomerang in TP!

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Nintendo can not logically explain why a person is in the MS LOL

Right... because Zelda is 100% realistic and makes perfect sense...

Originally Posted by Senap

Do you really think that a spirit in a sword (which is a total cliché anyway) is that far-fetched? There was a spirit in Link's boomerang in TP!

Not to mention in Zelda there has also been a King of Hyrule in a boat, a chaotic god in a mask, a giant whale Ocean king in the body of an old man, and a princess trapped in an imp like state. I guess an anthropomorphic sword is nothing new to the series

I'm surprised this is still be debated.

She has SOMETHING to do with the Master Sword.

My three theories:

1) This story takes place before the MS was invented. She is a Great Fairy who transforms into the MS to help Link out and then sacrifices herself by permanently becoming the MS.

2) Another MS origin story: she simply resembles the MS because she creates it and so it looks like her.

3) Post-origin of MS, but the MS has either lost--or has not yet gained--its ability to repel evil. She is a Fairy who tags along with Link and resides in the MS when need be to do this task.

In Ocarina of Time, the Master Sword is already legend; yet, it's the first game in the Zelda timeline. The Master Sword chooses the Hero of Time. Then the Master Sword chooses the Hero of Winds, and so forth. Why can the Master Sword only be wielded by those in Link's bloodline?

It's possible that Zelda Wii will explain this if it ends up taking place before Ocarina of Time. This Master Sword-esque fairy could be the spirit with the power to banish evil. Throughout her adventure with Link, she grows a strong bond with the hero. For whatever reason, she becomes the Master Sword. When this happens, she only allows the hero within Link's bloodline to wield her.

That's my fun theory.

Correction KS: The master sword can only be wielded by a knight of hyrule -as said in ALttP. I highly doubt all the knights come from one bloodline. Infact the hero of winds and hero of time have no common blood. So yeah.

...Yeah but according to ALttP the knights of Hyrule were all basically wiped out. Link is suppose to be the last link (puny, lol) to the knight's bloodline. I'm not saying that all Link's are related because only one knight had babiez before he died...I'm just saying the knights' blood is few and far between, and some may be interconnected.

Originally Posted by Talhoffer

Correction KS: The master sword can only be wielded by a knight of hyrule -as said in ALttP. I highly doubt all the knights come from one bloodline. Infact the hero of winds and hero of time have no common blood. So yeah.

Well, there goes my theory.

Originally Posted by Sparty

1. Never said anyone was wrong, just that I disagree until I am proven otherwise.

2. Telling someone they have no concrete facts tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about. Because there are indeed concrete facts and hints and bits of evidence there can always be room for argument.

3. We're not telling people they can't debate because the true information isn't revealed yet. Stop trying to stifle people's personal opinions. That's not what forums are about.

1. if u disagree with sumone u think they are wrong. DUH!

dis⋅a⋅gree
–verb (used without object), -greed, -gree⋅ing. 1. to fail to agree; differ: The conclusions disagree with the facts. The theories disagree in their basic premises.
2. to differ in opinion; dissent: Three of the judges disagreed with the verdict.
3. to quarrel: They disagreed violently and parted company


2.Little hints and tidbits of information are not CONCRETE FACTS. That is called speculation.

3. DO NOT accuse me of interfering with ppls opinions. Because i am not. anyone obviously has the right to believe wut they want from the poster. And thats my whole point. I see sum ppl arguing here saying the other is wrong for saying shes the great fairy. Well u have no idea shes really the Master Sword....now do you?

The Fairy Queen's design is essentially a TP-ified version of her design from TWW, with only a couple design quirks, namely the leggings, her cloak, and that strange jewel she carries. But none of these particularly screams "Master Sword" to me.

Artemicion, love your screen name, but I just can't see how you can't see the obvious. Everything about her design is like a combo of the WW Great Fairy and the Master Sword . . .

IT is still far to early to say that this Fairy-like Girl is related to the Master Sword. Just wait until the game is out.

Originally Posted by [Cartoon]--Link

1. if u disagree with sumone u think they are wrong. DUH!

dis⋅a⋅gree
–verb (used without object), -greed, -gree⋅ing. 1. to fail to agree; differ: The conclusions disagree with the facts. The theories disagree in their basic premises.
2. to differ in opinion; dissent: Three of the judges disagreed with the verdict.
3. to quarrel: They disagreed violently and parted company

I never called anyone wrong. I merely agree to disagree. If you are indeed right, which I admit you could be, then I will be in agreeance with you. Not hard to understand, so no need to quote definitions to me when I know how to speak English just fine.

2.Little hints and tidbits of information are not CONCRETE FACTS. That is called speculation.

As you can see I never called concrete facts hints nor bits of evidence. Rather I seperated those terms with the connecting word "and", never defining concrete facts as such as you claimed I did. I was using them as examples that can motivate one to debate, and letting you know that there are concrete facts, AND hints, AND tidbits of info to go off of. Don't be so hasty to call someone out on something.

3. DO NOT accuse me of interfering with ppls opinions. Because i am not. anyone obviously has the right to believe wut they want from the poster. And thats my whole point. I see sum ppl arguing here saying the other is wrong for saying shes the great fairy. Well u have no idea shes really the Master Sword....now do you?

Accusations are going to happen. Don't cry about it. And I don't know she isn't the Master Sword. I just don't see compelling evidence to call her such yet though.

Originally Posted by bastian

Everything about her design is like a combo of the WW Great Fairy and the Master Sword . . .

The shape of her hair can't be intentionally meant to look like the sword since it's the same shape it had in TWW.

The jewel itself looks somewhat like the Master Sword's jewel when it is depowered in TWW, but the jewel has a different shape; the Master Sword's is not diamond-shaped, it has a different shape.

The gold trim is interesting, but it is facing the wrong way versus the part that is supposedly the "hilt." The leggings design is about the most interesting connection, but I think it's probably coincidence.

That said, I have no real problems with the idea, I just don't think we can take away that "she's the MASTER SWORD" for sure with the information we have now.