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Old 09-19-2009, 04:32 AM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

those are really good points illustrated. these are the main two that did it for me:










i love drawing the Zelda characters and I notice theres a way they always draw the tip of the master sword. Look at the tip of her hat and the tip of the master sword. It was really strange to me at first how pointy her head was, Im like whats that all about. This was before I even thought of it being the master sword and then it made sense.

The stockings part is just too hard to miss. Its strange bc I dont think they often give stylish stockings to the women of the Zelda series. Looks just like the Master Sword Handle.


There are a few things that are off (color of the gem, shape of the two yellow lines on the mid-section are reversed, and her wings dont help the shape of the hilt.) But my guess is that.. well imagine you are the art designer, it would be hard to make all these things fit in, to look like the master sword and have everything work perfectly. She would be representing the Master Sword still, not every part of the design has to fit perfectly.

Like her wings, if they were pointed (northwest) and (northeast) it would be more fitting to how the blue hilt of the master sword is angled. But imagine drawing that, it would be hard for that to make sense from an aesthetic point of view. But as someone said, maybe she might spread her wings outward, closely fulfilling the outline of the Master Sword.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:42 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

I wouldn't go so far as to say she is the Master Sword, but from her design it seems likely that she has at least some connection. Miyamoto's quote-unquote "cryptic" comments don't make it any less likely. He goes to pains to point out "Dude! Link don't have a sword in this picture!" Her design is familiar, Miyamoto jumps through hoops to connect her to Lin's sword... is there any real doubt? She's almost certainly connected in some way.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

I think it's just a misconception.. I really don't think that she is the "lady of the master sword" for some reason she gives me the vibe of the Queen Fairy from Windwaker for some reason.. The same shape of head and a little bit of the attributes. It could be the older non-cartoon version of the Queen Fairy of WW who knows? only time will tell.



Everyone has a different look on things.. I'm sure the master sword idea is a coincedence.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

Well think about from a behind the scenes perspective. You're given detail and asked to draw lets say a fairy, female spirit, female entity of the Zelda universe. Might you look on to past references?

She definitely looks like the spirit from Wind Waker... no surprise there. Do I think she's the same fairy of WW? Nope. She was possibly influenced by both the Master Sword and the fairy of WW.

For example, lets say you were an artist and you had to draw a female entity that was connected to or a personification of any kind to the Master Sword. How would you do it? Would you draw the Master Sword and just add T & A? Or would you do something like in the picture?


Also if you are oblivious to her resemblance or connection to the Master Sword, well I wont say you are blind, but probably just havent looked at everything. Especially with Miyamoto's hints at his lack of sword. I suppose Link not having a sword is just a coincidence as well? He took it off cuz he wanted to practice sword swinging with the other hand and the artist got a pic of him before picking up the sword with his right hand. Nah, you know its odd that he only has the shield there, no sword, and when asked about the entity, Miyamoto says Link mentions Links lack of sword. Too obvious.


I think a game based highly on the Master Sword would be interesting as well.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:27 PM
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It could be the older non-cartoon version of the Queen Fairy of WW who knows? only time will tell.
The Great Fairy in the Cave of Deals says that she is their queen, ill quote her. "I am the Great Fairy, I reign over all fairies of this realm as their queen." I guess that means she is the Queen of Fairies. unless the Queen of Fairies was in another realm at that time.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:29 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

I dont think she is the Queen of Fairies (though its possible this could be a different rendering of her.) But I think, artistically, the female entity was influenced by her design as well.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:32 AM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

By principle, I don't believe it.

It would give 'retcon' a whole new meaning by the lines of 'severe cringe'
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Old 09-20-2009, 03:52 PM
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aww just because you dont like it doesnt mean it would be retconning anything. please tell me what past stories of the sword would it be a retcon of.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:50 PM
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What if zelda wii is before oot? Before the master sword existed, the game could explain the origins of the sword. The girl in the picture could have transformed into the master sword so link could defeat the unknown villain of this game? That would explain her having common features to the master sword.

But that's just random theory's.

Not too farfetched, I think.


I personally believe that she has some important connection the Master Sword (Miyamoto specifically pointed out that Link wasn't holding a sword in the concept art). Whether she is the human incarnation of the sword, it's spirit, or whatever, remains to be seen, but I believe it will be something along those lines.


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Old 09-20-2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

She has got to be the Master Sword.
What if Navi and the sword can like... merge into some awesome weapon of death. A weird theory, but who knows?
She does have a resemblance to the fairy queen...
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:02 PM
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She has got to be the Master Sword.
What if Navi and the sword can like... merge into some awesome weapon of death. A weird theory, but who knows?
She does have a resemblance to the fairy queen...
I was joking about Navi...

I don't think Navi will come back, although it would be very interesting if she did, provided she shut up a little bit.

I personally think that Nintendo just liked the design of the Fairy Queen, and made this girl look like her, but who knows, there could be a connection there as well. I'm almost certain that there's a Master Sword connection, but that doesn't rule out a
Great Fairy connection as well....
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:34 PM
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I personally think that Nintendo just liked the design of the Fairy Queen, and made this girl look like her, but who knows, there could be a connection there as well.
Right there could be a connection to the Great Fairy, but for me, I think artistically they just looked back on to the Great Fairy as a previous powerful female entity. Given the challenge of making a spirit of some sort of the Master Sword, its perfectly possible they went and looked back on previous other female spirits.

I can definitely see why if they made a spirit of the Master Sword, why they would make it female instead of male.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:47 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

There are too many similarities between her and the master sword for there not to be some kind of connection.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:01 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

If she's the sword then I will quit Zelda.

LOL Just kidding. No wait, I'm serious. She DOES look like the Master Sword. I know there are such things as stupid sidekicks, but this would be beyond insane.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:16 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

A magical fairy entity resided in Link's freakin' boomerang once, I don't see why the Master Sword can't have a magical "queen of the fairies" entity in it. =/

It's nice to note that in Zelda the word fairy is often synonymous to the word spirit...like Ciela in PH. And in Japanese the word spirit is kami, which is a word to discribe anything from sacred to magical. @_@
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A magical fairy entity resided in Link's freakin' boomerang once
Oh yeah, I had forgot all about that. Well, if this girl is the MS's spirit or whatever, then I hope Nintendo will actually work out a nice story around it this time around.

They really messed that up in TP; you were introduced to the spirit in the boomerang at the beginning but you never heard from it again during the game. What was the point of that?
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:06 PM
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^^ I don't know!? That was dumb. If you are going to have an item be inhabited by a spirit at least have the spirit show up more than once. Once I got the boomerang, and we were introduced to the 'spirit of the wind' or whatever it was, I thought it would be a more important item...
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:52 PM
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If she's the sword then I will quit Zelda.

LOL Just kidding. No wait, I'm serious. She DOES look like the Master Sword. I know there are such things as stupid sidekicks, but this would be beyond insane.
I wouldnt think of her as a sidekick (sidekick slash aesthetic distraction-obstruction like Navi was) I think she will be a focal point in the game and you come back to her/ meet with her many times. I dont she'll be like this tag along thing.

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A magical fairy entity resided in Link's freakin' boomerang once, I don't see why the Master Sword can't have a magical "queen of the fairies" entity in it. =/
Thats a good point. And I dont think she is even related to the queen of fairies, they just got the artistic envisionment of an entity from the queen fairy design. But I think you were just using it as a term than actually saying the MS had a great kickass fairy queen in it.


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Oh yeah, I had forgot all about that. Well, if this girl is the MS's spirit or whatever, then I hope Nintendo will actually work out a nice story around it this time around.
They probably will. Hopefully it will tell lots about the Master Sword and make us think differently everytime we pick up the Master Sword in previous Zelda games.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:11 PM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

I voted nay. Its possible, but not likely. There are tons of gems in Zelda, so what makes that one be the small one in the master sword?
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:32 AM
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Re: Do you think she's really the personification of the Master Sword?

No crying allowed if she turns out to NOT be the Master Sword after all. And I have to surmise...that head of hers in the artwork is definitely the same as the Fairy Queen's from WW. No question about it. At all. Period. That's not theory, that's straight up matching the picture.

Since the woman in the artwork doesn't even resemble a sword, I'm not even going to theorize that she is one. As for Miyamoto's quote, we all know that he likes his big games to have very tight lids kept on them, and he could very well be leading on the game reporters.

That jewel...ugh, not only is it the wrong color when comparing it to the Master Sword's jewel, but it doesn't even look the same. They are both diamond shapes, but when I saw them side by side, they seemed to be cut very differently. The only thing I can think of is if they do a new rendering of the Master Sword for this new game, making its gem match that of this girl's. But I'm not even going to get into that.

All other similarities between the girl and the sword are either coincidence, spotted by hopefuls, or you guys are dead on about everything, feeding into that interview with Miyamoto. I mean...this guy, though he develops the games, doesn't even seem to know their timelines at times. I remember he was once quoted as saying that LttP took place after LoZ and AoL, but when LttP came out it was actually meant to take place as a prequel to the first two games, acting as a sort of origins game. (I'm not a big Zelda timeline theorist, so if you want to argue with me on this, you're wasting your breath because I was merely only using this to prove a small point, and discussing timelines in depth would stray from the topic at hand.)

So theorize all you want, but I for one am not going to get my hopes up for a simple theory until some hard evidence is provided to support this from Nintendo itself. Until then, the girl that looks like she could be the WW Fairy Queen's twin is only POSSIBLY a personification of the Master Sword.

Don't be too put down if she turns out not to be connected to the sword. As for myself, if she is, I will be pleasantly surprised and accepting of this outcome, so no worries, folks.
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