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Old 09-19-2009, 06:27 PM
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Many people, including me, play zelda SPECIFICALLY for its medieval fantasy setting (as well as gameplay)
LoZ settings since Majora's Mask are hardly worth being described as "medieval fantasy." A lot of the LoZ settings carry fantastical and sci-fi aspects that totally get rid of anything resembling the Middle Ages. :/
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:55 PM
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LoZ settings since Majora's Mask are hardly worth being described as "medieval fantasy." A lot of the LoZ settings carry fantastical and sci-fi aspects that totally get rid of anything resembling the Middle Ages. :/
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:31 PM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

GAH GAH GAH WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE THINK MODERN ZELDA IS GONNA BE LIKE EARTH.

A modern Zelda would *not* be like Earth. First off, all the technology would be powered by magic. Second off, Link would have the Hero's Clothes, not a new wardrobe. Seriously, most of the people opposed to modern Zelda either think Hyrule is a medieval European world (despite the fact that Zelda is a blend of so many different cultures) or think that modern Zelda is gonna be GTA.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:32 AM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

I personally like the idea of a futuristic Zelda, but not in the way of say Metroid and Phantasy Star Online. I think a futuristic Zelda should be based on magic. A futuristic Zelda could easily be created if you took what the Twili had and advanced it a few hundred years.

Dark-engraved buildings could become tall dark-engraved skyscrapers. Big flying magic hands \/ \/ \/
could become big flying ships powered by massive magical spells. Creepy black monsters could become even bigger creepy black monsters that fire magical columns of “fiery light” (ie. lasers) at you. The Mirror Shield could be updated with something like a weak Nayru's Love to reduce damage. One of Links lesser swords could be transformed into a magical sword of light, with a blade glowing like the sun.

And if people don’t want Hyrule’s future to be that way, that future could be made into another alternate dimension, which Link just happens to find himself in. We could even have the medieval Link travel to that future, and watch him be amazed at “the technology of the gods”, or as we put it indoor lighting.

In my Zelda fan game, at one point Link adventures to an alternate dimension that has advanced magically instead of industrially. Several hundred years earlier a major war broke out over the Great Crystals (gems of enormous magical power) and left the world in mostly ruins. When Link arrives the world has been somewhat rebuilt but many ruins are left unexplored. Link has to travel to some of these ruins to find the Great Crystals, which are needed to counter the main villain, who taken over Link’s Hyrule by freezing it in time with one of the Great Crystals and succeeded in draining the Triforce of all its godly powers. (the villains goal actually isn’t out to conjure Hyrule, but go get enough power to rebuild his own world, which is the one link travels to) One of the games ruins employs electricity as its main theme. Link has to wrought electricity through many wires and conduits to open doors, remove traps, activate switches, and more. Link even has to defeat the “Electric Golem” boss by shorting out the boss’s power supply, with overhanging cables, and one its completely drained, pry off its protective shell and attack its internal wiring, before the boss has a chance to recharge it “battery”, its battery being one of the Great Crystals.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:55 AM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

The way I see it, if we could pull off futuristic without looking like startrek, it could work... I'm thinking steam punk futuristic... for instance remember in MM there was a prototype rocket ship plans on the wall.... Imagine, a ship powered by Glowing chus and in the walkways the hallways are light by these chus against the walls, I mean, instead of the steel grating you see as floors in all sci fis, wood? I mean yeah, IMPOSSIBLE!!! but hey... Instead of Jet fuel and Jets, Twilight power?...Like how Midna lifts the GIANT Rock...

As Meio said above, magic over technology
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The way I see it, if we could pull off futuristic without looking like startrek, it could work... I'm thinking steam punk futuristic... for instance remember in MM there was a prototype rocket ship plans on the wall.... Imagine, a ship powered by Glowing chus and in the walkways the hallways are light by these chus against the walls, I mean, instead of the steel grating you see as floors in all sci fis, wood? I mean yeah, IMPOSSIBLE!!! but hey... Instead of Jet fuel and Jets, Twilight power?...Like how Midna lifts the GIANT Rock...

As Meio said above, magic over technology
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:04 PM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

If there every was a more futuristic Zelda i'd them having things like Airships and giant cities yet still fighting primarily with things like cannons and swords. Does this make anyone else think of FF6? Oh trains would probably be used for land travel although some people might still use horses.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:45 PM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

I remember an old thread about this. Someone said something like: "A futuristic Zelda would be like an antiquated Metroid, with Samus throwing arrows instead of beams".

Zelda can't be futuristic.
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

It doesn't get much more futuristic than walking robots shooting laser beams.

I wouldn't mind a futuristic Zelda I'm not going to bash ST for having a train, any more than I bashed MM for having Eyegores or a clock tower.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:03 PM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

Another thing that gets me is why are people barely accepting the notion of futuristic only if it's magic-based? If you have squeezed the juice out of the LoZ series, you should know that the world of Hyrule and the LoZ universe is VERY earthly. There is no magic to the degree of, say, Final Fantasy VIII. If there is a futuristic setting, it doesn't necessarily need to be "magical" power over electric/wind/water.
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

...I just posted this in another thread, but it applies here too. >_> Futuristic Zelda.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:46 PM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

Futuristic Zelda...would not look like Half-Life.
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

Link with a laser sword would ruin the game. Come on, this is A legend of Zelda, not Star wars. The Zelda series became super popular due to the unique storyline and the creator's intense imagination. People love the middle age stuff in Zelda, and him in a middle aged costume fighting dark middle aged magic and unbelieveable monsters with a fairy by his side.

If there were to be a new game, let's say 'A Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Future'. Link running around with an AK-47 or in your case a laser sword killing robots and stuff would give the franchise a huge meltdown, as well as games like that are way to common. A Legend of Zelda is an unique game in its own, just like Final Fantasy. And personally, just thinking about modern houses and towns in a Zelda game totally kills my interest for it. I think Shigeru Miyamoto and Nintendo is aware of that as well, thus they keep it like that.
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The future = AK 47s and lightsabers? Why do so many people make this jump? The future = higher technology and a changed setting, stop ****ing assuming it's going to be all assault rifles and Lucasfilm plagiarism.

By the way, ZELDA ALREADY HAS ROBOTS. Have you forgotten the Beamos, the Minish Cap Armos, and Goht?
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:57 PM
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

If you told an 80s Final Fantasy fan that FF would have trains, machine guns, skyscrapers, and robots in it, they would say that it would ruin the series. However, since the FF series left its fantasy setting, it became more popular than ever. Why don't people see that the same thing would happen if Zelda went futuristic?
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The world has many diffrent eras, for many diffrent lands. Romans had underfloor heating, Henry VIII had running hot and cold taps on the 3rd floor of Hampton Court due to water pressure, So even Technology never really fits into a niche, The UK has trainlines going back to 1825, And Zelda of course it's a diffrent world, It would never be similar to any region of Earth and things in there world do have to evolve sometime, there Fashion has been the same for hundreds of years where as in Reality it changes greatly every decade, If you saw Victorian Garn of 1840's it looked utterly unrecognisable to garb of the 1850's and yet Zelda has always stayed the same. It does need to progress in a natural way by this point of the series, Such as growing on whats there and what would happen rather then throwing in a bunch of fandom tribute rocket packs and spaceships, And that progression would seem to be leading to a Steampunk type era, Though Steampunk is a very popular genre if they ever move on in time Im doubtless thats the theme they would use, but Hey Victorina, Art Deco and Gothic designs are just soooo cool!
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If there were to be a new game, let's say 'A Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Future'. Link running around with an AK-47 or in your case a laser sword killing robots and stuff would give the franchise a huge meltdown
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If you told an 80s Final Fantasy fan that FF would have trains, machine guns, skyscrapers, and robots in it, they would say that it would ruin the series. However, since the FF series left its fantasy setting, it became more popular than ever. Why don't people see that the same thing would happen if Zelda went futuristic?
FF may have left the old fantasy setting, but it is still fantasy. Still, Zelda doesn't need to be strictly "medievel" or Star Wars-futuristic in order to be fantasy.

Zelda should just stay Zelda, but the world would feel a little more realistic if it evolved a little. A little does not equal starships, laser beams and skyscrapers.
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

I never 'assumed' anything. I gave examples. There's a big difference between assumptions and examples. Plus, a game franchise that has had all its game based in the far past, suddenly to go futuristic would blow. And only a minor percentage of the fans would probably enjoy it. No need to feel offended and hyperventilate with curse words because of my opinion.

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Not everyone wants a futuristic Zelda game. And as long as Nintendo doesn't make one, I'm happy too.
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Re: Futuristic Zelda - Why so against it?

A Sci-Fi Zelda should be left to a time when the Zelda fanbase wasn't comprised of ****wits.

In the meantime, there are always eras like the Renaissance that Zelda could look to for inspiration. Have you seen some of the stills from Assassin's Creed II? The architecture, clothing style, etc. is stunning.

I would really like to see a Hylian edition of that.
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I would really like to see a Hylian edition of that.
Same here, good sir. Same here.
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