Deeper Storylines

We really, really need to get another deep Zelda game into the series. By deep, I mean deep. Something where it makes you think, or question the meaning of life. Or feel strange inside.

Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask are the deepest Zelda games. One was a dream - or was it? - and the other was a strange parallel world. In fact, some of us question whether Koholint and Termina were actually part of the true Zelda world and not just a dream or parallel world.

I liked Link's Awakening's storyline in the fact that at the end, despite the fact that everything that happened was supposed to be a dream, you can still hear Marin singing Ballad of the Wind Fish when you awaken. In the game itself, Link's relationship with her was slightly romantic both ways, and that's something rare in Zelda. In the Zelda series, someone always loves Link, but the relationship in Link's Awakening seemed deeper, and it seemed to go both ways: you knew Marin loved him, and you knew he loved her, especially by the look on his face when he finds out that she seemingly was real all along and got her wish to become a seagul and continue to sing for the world before she departs. It was sad, but happy at the same time.

I remember when I found out that the world was a dream after beating Dethl at the end, I felt cold inside, especially when the island dissapears and you even see Marin dissapear, last seen singing her song. And yeah, there was mystery behind it: was Marin real all along, or did Link's dream of a girl he can love become so powerful that she become something more - something real? But in the end, she didn't want to be human in the end, and she didn't want to stay in one place; she wanted to sing across the world.

Fun Facts: Malon is based on Marin, Marin is based on Zelda. Thereofore, Malon is based on Zelda.

Marin is also one of my favourite characters; she had a deep, wonderful personality. She's sweet and kind, too. She even seemed to be aware that the island was a dream, making the story deeper: how did she know? What was her purpose in the dream? Was she just s figure of Link's romantic interests manifest in his dream? She did say, however, "If you ever forgot me, I'll never forgive you!" near the end.

I have a theory there: in Order for Marin to live beyond Link's dream, he had to remember her and how he wanted her dream to come true, even if it means for them to part forever.

Link's Awakening, like I said, had a deeper storyline than most Zelda games. Majora's Mask had a deeper storyline, too, being based on healing and a strange parallel universe, and how Link befriended his part-enemy of the game, the lonely Skull Kid. The thing controling him, Majora's Mask itself, was, in my opinion, a very manifestation of the insanity that came from the pain of the people of Termina, considering the game's theme is healing wounds and emotion pains of the people.

We need more deep storylines, don't we? I prefer that the stories have depth, as it makes the game more interesting.

Interesting. I like this idea. I never thought of it like that but i new there was a reason i loved MM the most.

Would be nice. Though they depth of stories is greatly limited by a silent protagonist.

True.

I definitely want to see a much deeper storyline - not in a cheesy way, but in a truly touching way. LA and MM pulled it off perfectly. Also, I have to correct you on something....

Originally Posted by Potent Col

Was she just s figure of Link's romantic interests manifest in his dream?

It was the Windfish's dream, not Link's.

I guess you could say touching, but i can't describe it. All i can say about it is that it will give you goosebumps

We really, really need to get another deep Zelda game into the series. By deep, I mean deep. Something where it makes you think, or question the meaning of life. Or feel strange inside

Yes please. I want to get the same feeling that no one I have ever met can seem to describe from MM, (i've never played LA). I want to walk around the lands, into a nearest house, talk to a NPC, fight a casual boss, open a treasure chest in a far off cavern, doing all of that knowing that there is something deeper, and more mysterious than what I am doing right now. I want to explore not just with curiosity, but forboding, as if the world around me can change at any given time, it's hard for me to say, but to put it simply: I don't want to relax. I want to play, and be afraid, and conquor fears, question my morals, and all that philosophical jazz.

I couldn't agree more. Gameplay, visuals, dungeons, items...all of these things are great but they can't leave you with that deep and mysterious feeling like LA and MM did.
To be able to play another such game with today's gaming standards would be total bliss.

I haven't played LA in a while because i lost my GBA. Though if it's ever available on the DSI VC i'll probably get it.

I would love another deep storyline. It makes me feel more connected to the game and it makes me want to actually save the people.

I remember reading somewhere Miyamoto wants to keep the story in Zelda Wii simple and not deep, or am I going crazy? :/

Why on earth would he want to do that, given how amazing both LA and MM were? Hopefully he just meant he didn't want to make them complex. LA and MM were deep and touching, but they weren't exactly complex. Hopefully he wants us to connect to the world and characters on some level... If not, then there's no hope for another good Zelda game, in my opinion.

In My opinion, LA and TP are tied for the deepest storyline.

This is a good idea, as some of the things in both games were highly questionable.

But the question is: What new things could Miyamoto and Aonuma incorporate into a Zelda game that leaves the fans with more questions than answers?

Originally Posted by Valhelm

In My opinion, LA and TP are tied for the deepest storyline.

Enuf and Ikana are gonna flame you.

I'm not a fan of deep stories, but I certainly don't think they are a bad thing. I don't care if the story is deep, or if it's simple (in fact, I sometimes prefer simpler stories ), just as long as it's not horrible, which has yet to be done by Nintendo. ( Unless you count a certain portable starfox title. )

Originally Posted by Mr_Keesey

I'm not a fan of deep stories, but I certainly don't think they are a bad thing. I don't care if the story is deep, or if it's simple (in fact, I sometimes prefer simpler stories ), just as long as it's not horrible, which has yet to be done by Nintendo. ( Unless you count a certain portable starfox title. )

People will disagree but i agree 100% on this.

WW also had a pretty strong story and did a great job of giving Link a personality through facial expressions. Running parallel through MM, WW, and LA is characters you're connected to. That's a key to a good story and TP kinda failed at that. Characters were less expressive and there was no VA to make up for it.

Less expressive, i'll give you that, but TP still had some emotional scenes.

Eh, I don't know. I kind of got the LTTP vibe where I went "What am I saving the world for again?" Maybe it's just because everything was less cute.

TP had some emotional parts, but not a lot, and the ones it did have weren't on par with MM, LA, or even WW.