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But we all know Zelda isn't a series for fairy-tale endings.
Which is something I've always found very odd, considering that the game borrows heavily from fairy tales and myths. The Master Sword is a pretty clear allegory to the King Arthur legend. The Hylians are all elf people, and Link is dressed like some kind of fairy boy, which he's even called by Malon. It's strange that a game with such heavy fairy tale implications always seems to have a very bittersweet, un-fairytale-like ending.
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:24 PM
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Lol. The only time I really liked Link with Zelda was in Ocarina of Time. I thought it was so cute...and somewhat implied, just not meant to be. xD I guess that's how I like my Link romance...real cute connection, adventure together a little bit and then an abrupt split at the end. xD I dunno why, but it's so unexpected every time Link gets what I call "DENIED!"
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In OOT, I think Zelink is implied but its completely one sided from Zelda IMO. That's why I think the implied love story between Link and Zelda is more of a tragically sad love that was never meant to be for Zelda instead of a verification that Link is madly in love with Zelda as some people believe.
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In OOT, I think Zelink is implied but its completely one sided from Zelda IMO. That's why I think the implied love story between Link and Zelda is more of a tragically sad love that was never meant to be for Zelda instead of a verification that Link is madly in love with Zelda as some people believe.
The problem with ZeLink in OoT though is that she is missing for more than half of the game. I mean, not really, since she's Sheik, but Link doesn't know this. The only interactions he truly has with her throughout the course of the game are in the courtyard, the message she left in the Ocarina of Time, just after she reveals herself, before the Ganon battle, and before she sends him back in time. Other than that, Link never even knows he's talking with Zelda. Now, I'll admit that in those select scenes it seems as though something between them could be, but will never work for the reasons you stated.

I find Malon a much more likely choice for Link in OoT. She's a much more down to earth girl. I mean, she works on a farm after all. Link rescues her from Ingo and borrows her horse. She cutely calls him fairy boy. Plus TP has Link, who is descended (or at least it's heavily implied) from OoT Link lives in a small farming community. Malon is much more likely, me thinks.
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:48 PM
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Well, geez. xD You think Link went off to save Zelda just because. Well, yeah but I like to believe he was influenced by the time they had as children. Link's love relationships are ALWAYS viewed as one sided and you know it's because he doesn't talk. xD And in OoT they couldn't fit in emotions for Link.

I think the reason Marin and Midna rank high up there (at least for me) is because they were extremely important to the storyline and they were also present for the majority of the game. There were random moments in LA when Marin would sing music with Link, or they would talk at the seashore. Or travel across the island. I have a hard time getting connected to a character that only spends 10 minutes on screen, which is Zelda in a nutshell. =\ (Basically why I wanted Zelda to be Link's partner in one of the games.)
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The problem with ZeLink in OoT though is that she is missing for more than half of the game. I mean, not really, since she's Sheik, but Link doesn't know this. The only interactions he truly has with her throughout the course of the game are in the courtyard, the message she left in the Ocarina of Time, just after she reveals herself, before the Ganon battle, and before she sends him back in time. Other than that, Link never even knows he's talking with Zelda. Now, I'll admit that in those select scenes it seems as though something between them could be, but will never work for the reasons you stated.

I find Malon a much more likely choice for Link in OoT. She's a much more down to earth girl. I mean, she works on a farm after all. Link rescues her from Ingo and borrows her horse. She cutely calls him fairy boy. Plus TP has Link, who is descended (or at least it's heavily implied) from OoT Link lives in a small farming community. Malon is much more likely, me thinks.
Not to mention that Malon is the only love interest that Link is not obligated to save and she does not have the complications of being a sage. So yeah..I agree that Link ending up with Malon is far more likely.

As for the Zelink in OOT, notice how Link is way more socially interactive with Zelda when she was Shiek. Then when she revealed herself in the TOT, Link then becomes this shy and timid boy who seemed completely unsure of himself and his feelings for Zelda. Or maybe he was just creeped out in that he thought he was socially bonding with a guy buddy only to find out that it was a girl in disguise the whole time.
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:59 PM
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Lol...I didn't see Link as that way at all. xD He acted the same way around both Sheik and Zelda. He ran to protect Sheik when Bongo Bongo arrived and when Zelda was put into the crystal thinger Link ran up and banged on the crystal...then when she fainted Link shook his head. I thought that was really cute...and rather sad. Sucks to have someone kidnapped when they're right there! xD I know I was upset.
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Don't get me wrong...I thought Link CARED for Zelda's well being since she is the main heroine and all. But lets face it..Link cares for everybody. I just figured OOT Link never showed romantic interest in anyone due to the 7 years of lost maturity that in a literal sense kept him as a little boy in heart and mind. TP Link is proven to show interest in Midna and Ilia and he never speaks. Then again he is a normally matured teenager so it makes sense why this is so. Also...other Zelda games with lesser graphics are proven to show that Link has romantic feelings for love interests as well. So the whole OOT has questionable graphics as an excuse to apologize for Link not showing any type of emotional romantic feelings to me has always been a very weak argument given the fact that there is nothing to disprove the 7 years lost maturity.
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As for the Zelink in OOT, notice how Link is way more socially interactive with Zelda when she was Shiek. Then when she revealed herself in the TOT, Link then becomes this shy and timid boy who seemed completely unsure of himself and his feelings for Zelda. Or maybe he was just creeped out in that he thought he was socially bonding with a guy buddy only to find out that it was a girl in disguise the whole time.
Hehehehehe. Yeah, I'd guess the first though. Like I said, I can definitely see the implications of Link and Zelda in OoT, but there are numerous factors that would keep it from happening. Or I could just be saying that because I happen to be a LinkxMalon fan, but that's just me.

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Lol...I didn't see Link as that way at all. xD He acted the same way around both Sheik and Zelda. He ran to protect Sheik when Bongo Bongo arrived and when Zelda was put into the crystal thinger Link ran up and banged on the crystal...then when she fainted Link shook his head. I thought that was really cute...and rather sad. Sucks to have someone kidnapped when they're right there! xD I know I was upset.
I think the idea with this was that Link was altruistic to everyone he met. He often helped total strangers with a meager reward in return. He didn't view Zelda and Sheik as any different when they were in danger, but outside of that, he did act towards them differently. He was always much more relaxed around Sheik (sans their first meeting, of course ).
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I think the idea with this was that Link was altruistic to everyone he met. He often helped total strangers with a meager reward in return. He didn't view Zelda and Sheik as any different when they were in danger, but outside of that, he did act towards them differently. He was always much more relaxed around Sheik (sans their first meeting, of course ).
IMO the way Link socially interacted with Sheik in contrast to the way he interacted with Zelda as her feminine self was like night and day.
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Lol...Most people don't read what Keapora Gaebora has to say...ever. But everytime he meets you as a kid he judges you on how mature you've gotten. In the beginning he keeps saying, you don't act like a hero you don't act like a hero.

Meeting him in the desert he finally says, you've finally matured into a hero. Implying that even though he lost 7 years. the short time he spent in the future risking his life and learning new insightful things made him grow. They say that people mature from experience, hardships and toils. Link experienced more than enough to be considered more than the same child he was in the beginning of the adventure. (edit, whoops) Infact he has way more life experience than I have, and I'm almost as old as Adult Link.

Of course this probably won't persuade you into believing Link in capable of love in Ocarina of Time. But I always felt Link's modivation to go through Hyrule and allow his friends to become sages (That he will never see again) was for Princess Zelda...Ruto mentions that Zelda is alive to Link and says he can't hold his love for Zelda away from her...lol. Which is more of a joke, but it could be serious.

OoT was the first Zelda game to have like 5 love interests in one game. It was too much, every player had someone different in mind, which I feel ruined Zelda's character in the long run.

When Link sees Sheik, I thought he was always suspicious. There were times when he'd run over to stop Sheik from leaving, because he wanted to get to the bottom of his/her secrecy...maybe that was just my assumption?
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^Well, I don't think either of us are suggesting that Link is incapable of love, but I'm not one to speak for others, so I'll just tell you that that's not what I'm saying. But rather, he was still very embarrassed by the thought of it. And while his trials and tribulations as an adult may have hardened him and made him mature to the violence and darkness of the world, I highly doubt it prepared him for the emotional troubles of adulthood. In any case, I certainly think Link is capable of love, he's just... still a little afraid of it.
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Sure Link MATURED in a sense throughout the quest. Its just there is nothing to prove that he was a sexually mature MAN in a traditional sense. I still think the 7 years of lost maturity is the core reason as to why OOT Link never shows romantic interest in anyone. As I said before, TP Link has hints that he has an interest in romance and he never speaks like OOT Link. And since Zelda games with lesser graphics (AOL, LA) have hints to Link having romantic feelings, the argument that OOT has questionable graphics as a way to apologize for OOT Link not having a romantic interest in anyone is still a weak argument.
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Lol, okay but for me OoT Link was a pimp. The most sexually matured Link in the series. It's different for each player, I felt that Link was really attached to Zelda...you feel the opposite. So it's obviously a player thing.



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But thats just it. What made you think he was attracted to Zelda more than he was to Malon, Ruto, or Saria?? In all the big Zelink moments, Link just quietly stood there with a silly blank stare and just blinking once in awhile. Yeah...I could tell he really wanted to get it on with Zelda and it was SOOOOOO emotional when he just stood there blinking and staring at Zelda all creepy looking. Seriously, Link just seemed to be a shy and timid little boy around all the females in the game. Reading too deeply into something that is not there at all makes no sense to me but you are entitled to your own opinion I guess. I like that little vid you posted BTW regardless if I disagree with you.
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Lol, okay but for me OoT Link was a pimp. The most sexually matured Link in the series. It's different for each player, I felt that Link was really attached to Zelda...you feel the opposite. So it's obviously a player thing.
Such is the nature of Link.
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And that nature is that he exhibits no hints of any type of heterosexual yearnings to anyone.
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Should be kept to a minimum. TP was a little too much IMO.

If I ever see more in a Zelda game, I'm gonna break into Miyamoto's home and shove his prototype Wii Yardwork controller extension up his ***
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And that nature is that he exhibits no hints of any type of heterosexual yearnings to anyone.
Are you suggesting that Link might be... a gay!

Thats right, a gay...

I got no problem, Link is supposed to represent the player, whom ultimately decides the characters movement and development, so meh.
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That's not nice. It's not like Miyamoto's ever been estatic about storyline in his games. Link's Awakening is the best example I can give of an epic love story. Without Marin the game would've been just another game. But this...it was deep. Link didn't have 5 different love interests...well just Marin, Crazy Tracy (who rubs magic potion all over Link's body...>_>) and Madam meowmeow...mawmaw...moomoo? Well whatever, she was the chick you kissed Link for saving Bow-wow and then gave him an Ocarina.

Anyways, LA is the only Zelda game that Miyamoto didn't stick his nose into...and it's also one of his favorite Zeldas. xD If the next Zelda can top the tragedy of Marin's love for Link...I'm sold. (Okay, it was a tragedy for me...since I didn't get the perfect ending...Oof, sooo heartbroken.)
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