What do I want to return from previous Zelda games? Absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

Does anyone else find it sad how Zelda fans rate TP so low when it's one of the highest ranking games out there? Overall 9.4 average. Oh, man it's terrible. xD TP was an excellent game dispite what any fanboy dare say. The missing 0.6 points that TP failed to get are from the lack of VA/Non-MIDI music and from some missing originality.

And I have no doubt in my mind that the next Zelda will be a revolution to the series.

I find it very sad. I give it a 9.5 simply because of the lack in difficulty, I hated the last Mirror Shard dungeon as well as its boss, and the game lacked MIDI music. TP is one of my favorite Zelda games. People simply set their expectations too high for it and that's why they were disappointed.

Nintendo can only try so hard, people. Give the damn company a break. TP was an excellent game despite the fact that it didn't live up to the hype it had.

^^ I think it lived up to the hyped and I really think that I got my money's worth.

I used to think that too, but then I realized I contradicted myself whenever I said people set their expectations too high. The hype for TP was huge and people expected too much from it. The same happened in Brawl's case. As a result, far too many people than should have been were disappointed.

To prove this, let me use TWW as an example. When it was announced, people shunned its toony graphics and thought it looked awful. Once people played it, they loved it. Here, they were not expecting half as much from this game as they were from TP, which, as a result, made the game not disappointing to the majority.

What I'm saying here is that every time the hype gets huge, people will be disappointed. Whenever there is little hype, the game will turn out to be a ****er of success. This is what I'm predicting for ST, actually. People seem to hate the train idea and think the game will be the disappointment of the year. From this, it seems obvious that people will end up loving it.

Originally Posted by Lady Ranny

I used to think that too, but then I realized I contradicted myself whenever I said people set their expectations too high. The hype for TP was huge and people expected too much from it. The same happened in Brawl's case. As a result, far too many people than should have been were disappointed.

To prove this, let me use TWW as an example. When it was announced, people shunned its toony graphics and thought it looked awful. Once people played it, they loved it. Here, they were not expecting half as much from this game as they were from TP, which, as a result, made the game not disappointing to the majority.

What I'm saying here is that every time the hype gets huge, people will be disappointed. Whenever there is little hype, the game will turn out to be a ****er of success. This is what I'm predicting for ST, actually. People seem to hate the train idea and think the game will be the disappointment of the year. From this, it seems obvious that people will end up loving it.

I agree with you about everything. Because if you do hype thinbgs up too much people will be expecting too much and in the end they will be let down. Now I see how some people felt about TP. Mostly when I ask people about TP they say it was a let down because it was hyped to much. I really liked the game though and it did have it's flaws just like any other game but it was still a great game.

Originally Posted by Lady Ranny

I used to think that too, but then I realized I contradicted myself whenever I said people set their expectations too high. The hype for TP was huge and people expected too much from it. The same happened in Brawl's case. As a result, far too many people than should have been were disappointed.

To prove this, let me use TWW as an example. When it was announced, people shunned its toony graphics and thought it looked awful. Once people played it, they loved it. Here, they were not expecting half as much from this game as they were from TP, which, as a result, made the game not disappointing to the majority.

What I'm saying here is that every time the hype gets huge, people will be disappointed. Whenever there is little hype, the game will turn out to be a ****er of success. This is what I'm predicting for ST, actually. People seem to hate the train idea and think the game will be the disappointment of the year. From this, it seems obvious that people will end up loving it.

I like the train

Maybe this is why they won't tell us anything about ZWII until it's finished

And i rank the games like this:OOT-ALTTP-TP-WW-MM-PH. Those are the only ones i've beaten so i will only include them(though i don't think any of the other games i have will seriously change that). And about the MM sidequests...I only take the main quest of a game into account

Zaine: You hit the nail on the head.

Oni Dark Link: I like the train too. Except the majority of feedback I hear about the ST trailers is that the train is a stupid idea and whatnot and as a result, it'll be a bad game. And you know what I say to that? Garbage. The game doesn't even look like it completely revolves around the damn thing and we've only seen one damn trailer. People need to get a grip and give the game a chance. God...

Maybe its because i totally missed the hype train with TP, that i actually wasnt disappointed at all. I loved it. Perhaps voluntarily missing the hype train for the new ZeldaWii will be a good idea. When it comes closer to release, you guys should do yourselves a favor and IGNORE the damn hype and judge for yourselves.

As for the OP: lol no. Tossing out many of the staples of the series will just anger more fans.

Originally Posted by Oni Dark Link

I like the train

Maybe this is why they won't tell us anything about ZWII until it's finished

You mean ZW1. TP was a Gamecube game.

And about the MM sidequests...I only take the main quest of a game into account

In that case, you're obviously going to be disappointed when a game has sidequests as the bulk of it's content.

Originally Posted by Zeldoom

As for the OP: lol no. Tossing out many of the staples of the series will just anger more fans.

So ****ing what?

So ****ing what?

Way to miss the point, Deuce.

So ****ing what?

Hmm, usually when people are angry they are not happy. Which is bad.

Taking the staples of the series and reinventing them would be a far wiser move than removing them entirely.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

Hmm, usually when people are angry they are not happy. Which is bad.

Again, so ****ing what?

People on these boards can bicker all they want about how overrated TP is and how underrated MM is, but as far as the fan community goes, the opposite is true.

Personally, I think Twilight Princess is a much better game. Every Zelda game I've played, I've managed to play through it at least 3 or 4 times, except Majora's Mask. After beating it once, I tried to play through again, but only make it to the Southern Swamp before dying and giving up. Not because the game is too difficult, just very tedious, ultimately unrewarding and artistically pretty lame.

It's hypocritical to praise Majora's Mask while criticizing Twilight Princess for being an Ocarina of Time knockoff. In a few ways this is true, but Majora's Mask literally took all of the NPC's and graphics right out of Ocarina of Time in order to bang out a quick game.

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Originally Posted by Milliontown

People on these boards can bicker all they want about how overrated TP is and how underrated MM is, but as far as the fan community goes, the opposite is true.

Yeah, I noticed this. Not only in this thread. Most people in this forum are obsessed with Majoras Mask and how it supposedly is underrated. Well, I think its overrated on these boards

^**** yes. Finally someone who shares my opinions about both of those games.

And Silver, you're really being an ignorant biatch right now. All you seem to care about is whether or not you're happy with what you get. Well too ****ing bad. Removing too much of what staples the Zelda series will anger the majority fanbase, whether you're happy with it or not. And if the majority is angered, they will not buy, and when they don't buy the games, no money is made for Nintendo so they could make people happy.

Originally Posted by Maritimus

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Yeah, I noticed this. Not only in this thread. Most people in this forum are obsessed with Majoras Mask and how it supposedly is underrated. Well, I think its overrated on these boards

No joke. Remember when people used to ***** incessently about that game? Well apparently now its some sort of Paragon of Awesome.

Twilight Princess had lots of new stuff that previous Zelda games didn't have.

I would like to see important parts of the franchize remain, such as speech at the bottom of the screen, hearts, and all the important stuff. I want Ganondorf in it still, as he is the main antagonist, and a major part of Zelda. And I want Midna back lol :p

Originally Posted by zaine09

It is not really like OOT and it did pay off because they are planning on making another zeld game right. TP is just what the fans wanted and cried about and the fans crapped all over it... that's just sad.

I agree that there is a lack of orginality because it was just suppose to be another gamecube but they decided to put it on the wii. I think that they are going to do a lot better to this one though. I am so hyped about the next zelda wii...

1- Not all fans wanted another OoT and it was not just what all fans wanted when it came out

2- Lack of originality had nothing to do with it being on the Wii aswell as the gamecube

Originally Posted by Silver

Again, so ****ing what?

Bad is not good? Is this really that hard to understand?

I find your signature fitting for you right now

Seriously i'm afraid of a Zelda game built from the ground up! Mostly because people on these forums will be ***chin that it's not a true Zelda game or what they should have kept and didnt or what was unnecessary! really think before you ask for something like this