Just worked out what new Wii Zelda is about!

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Are you insane?

Sometimes. Especially when I decide not to simply ignore threads like this, because talking to walls is insane. Obviously. ^^

She is the spirit/fairy that is sacrificed and becomes the Master Sword towards the end of the game which you use to defeat evil. The Master Sword is more than just a weapon as we know... its the blade of evil's bane therefore we are finally getting the game about its forging and forgive me not, making this sword is more than getting a blacksmith to hammer some hot metal - its using magic and forming pacts with sages and all the rest of it. This will be one big process.

So, Link runs around the entire game with this fairy girl to get her sacrificed at the end of the game by letting some old dudes magically "forge" her into a sword? The thing is, Miyamoto explicitly pointed out, that Link is not carrying a sword. But do you really believe, that we now get an entire Zelda game without using a sword? Miyamoto wanted to give us the hint, that the fairy girl IS the sword, she's even standing there, where Link's sword would be. This means, she can transform into the Master Sword and back into a girl. Your sword as your companion, that's probaly the perfect sidekick and surpasses Navi and Midna by far. This means she will be an important part of the game and serve you as a sword ALL THE TIME. So, the forging of the Master Sword can't take place during the end of the game. Maybe it's covered at the beginning as some kind of backstory, that's definitely possible and I'm pretty sure, we're going to see that, but the game itself won't be about forging the sword. It's already there.

If the story really would be about getting this fairy girl "forged" into the Master Sword, then Link would carry a different weapon on the artwork, like some other sword for example. Just because the Master Sword doesn't exist right now, doesn't mean Link doesn't use any swords or other weapons. Because he always does. The artwork wants to say to you "this girl is your sword... all the time".

Of course this is just, how some Zelda fans including myself interpret the artwork. If you think differently and believe in your story, I'm totally okay with that, but please then don't say "it's the best theory there is", because you can't be sure about that.

because I have a life.

Of course you do. Everyone does.

And to TourianTourist you manipulator, all I said was my theory is the best out there at the moment, not that is impossible to be disproved. I think you should take honesty lessons... honestly.

Seriously, it doesn't matter how you said it. You can't just go around bragging "my theory is the best out there", you don't do that, no matter how good you think it is. It's about the principle. And how do you even know? Have you read all the theories about the artwork and other official information out there in the internet? I seriously doubt so, considering you apparently didn't even know the artwork existed. And I'm sure, there are plenty of good and reasonable theories out there. You just believe your one is the best, because you have some kind of an ego problem or something.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Are you insane?

... (doesn't know what to say).

That makes my theory even more credible.

No it doesn't. Anyone can take a whip of the theory behind this game. And by the way, you could be the one thousandth kid that said something similar to this, but on one of the thousands of Zelda forums out there.

She is the spirit/fairy that is sacrificed and becomes the Master Sword towards the end of the game which you use to defeat evil. The Master Sword is more than just a weapon as we know... its the blade of evil's bane therefore we are finally getting the game about its forging and forgive me not, making this sword is more than getting a blacksmith to hammer some hot metal - its using magic and forming pacts with sages and all the rest of it. This will be one big process.

Says who? Miyamoto? No.

No information has been given out, apart from the leaked picture.

By the way to you nosy people, this is a theory/assumption, whatever you like to call it. It seems like you all feel attacked by the fact that I'm saying this is the best possible theory out there. Though truth be told I haven't heard a better one. All I here is people saying, "You can't make theories yet we don't have enough information." Yes you can, there is easily enough information to work with.

You said very well at the start that your "thread is the truth of what's behind the game." But it clearly isn't.

Who says it's the best possible theory? You and who else?

As I said, you could be the one thousandth kid that said this. So your theory doesn't make you special.

I welcome all the people that agree with my theory - it is very good isn't it? But basically, to the guy that said I quit arguing, I didn't, I just don't get back to the forums very often because I have a life.

...What?

And to TourianTourist you manipulator, all I said was my theory is the best out there at the moment, not that is impossible to be disproved. I think you should take honesty lessons... honestly.

You should be the one who should take lessons on what is the truth, and what is simply fanfic.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Are you insane?

That makes my theory even more credible.

She is the spirit/fairy that is sacrificed and becomes the Master Sword towards the end of the game which you use to defeat evil. The Master Sword is more than just a weapon as we know... its the blade of evil's bane therefore we are finally getting the game about its forging and forgive me not, making this sword is more than getting a blacksmith to hammer some hot metal - its using magic and forming pacts with sages and all the rest of it. This will be one big process.

By the way to you nosy people, this is a theory/assumption, whatever you like to call it. It seems like you all feel attacked by the fact that I'm saying this is the best possible theory out there. Though truth be told I haven't heard a better one. All I here is people saying, "You can't make theories yet we don't have enough information." Yes you can, there is easily enough information to work with.

I welcome all the people that agree with my theory - it is very good isn't it? But basically, to the guy that said I quit arguing, I didn't, I just don't get back to the forums very often because I have a life.

And to TourianTourist you manipulator, all I said was my theory is the best out there at the moment, not that is impossible to be disproved. I think you should take honesty lessons... honestly.

Dude, i just got to say you are acting pretty self-centered, you can't just expect people to admit that your theory is the best one out there. There could be better, i mean the new Zelda could be a whole new story not having to do with the past games. So someone could make up a new story that's way better than yours, but i got to say your theory isn't that bad, but really get your head out of your ass and breath in the fresh air and realize that not everyone is going to agree with you.

I might jump to the "answer the quotes not aimed to you" bandwagon as well. It seems to be the hot thing to do lately. =P

Originally Posted by TourianTourist

Miyamoto wanted to give us the hint, that the fairy girl IS the sword, she's even standing there, where Link's sword would be.

This is what I believe too.

... This means, she can transform into the Master Sword and back into a girl.

Hahahah. I can't really say. I only can think she is related but I don't know if she will start one way or another, or if she truly will freely change from the partner to the item.

Your sword as your companion, that's probably the perfect sidekick and surpasses Navi and Midna by far. This means she will be an important part of the game and serve you as a sword ALL THE TIME.

Careful with building up too much expectation. Twilight Princess suffered so much from this. I agree the idea sounds pretty sweet sweet but already thinking it will surpass the past ones by far can be dangerous.

So, the forging of the Master Sword can't take place during the end of the game. Maybe it's covered at the beginning as some kind of back story, that's definitely possible and I'm pretty sure, we're going to see that, but the game itself won't be about forging the sword. It's already there.

I tend to think this way too, it seems hard for me to think the Master Sword will be the final sequences of this game, specially considering Miyamoto is considering to incorporate the motion plus thing. Though in the other hand, yes, the idea of it happening doesn't sound bad in my head.

If the story really would be about getting this fairy girl "forged" into the Master Sword, then Link would carry a different weapon on the artwork, like some other sword for example. Just because the Master Sword doesn't exist right now, doesn't mean Link doesn't use any swords or other weapons. Because he always does. The artwork wants to say to you "this girl is your sword... all the time".

Not necessarily, specially if the idea is the artwork portraits the girl as your sword. link could still be using some other weapons and/or sword before reaching that point in the game.

Of course this is just, how some Zelda fans including myself interpret the artwork. If you think differently and believe in your story, I'm totally okay with that, but please then don't say "it's the best theory there is", because you can't be sure about that.

I can see that the way you express your points of view has a lot to do with the reception of them. So I agree you simply cannot come and say you have the best theory out there, even if you truly feel that way, it is the rest who should give you that credit to you. But upon failing to do this, now the people are closing them from even considering it.

I am sorry for such a weird unrelated post, I am truly bored, and I saw this an opportunity to post my points of view too.

This theory doesn't sound bad to me, but doesn't sound any more credible than the rest, simply because we have to speculate a lot to come out with something out of the artwork and the few interviews we have at hand about this game.

Originally Posted by Kaynil

Not necessarily, specially if the idea is the artwork portraits the girl as your sword. link could still be using some other weapons and/or sword before reaching that point in the game.

Of course. And I'm pretty sure there will be other weapons next to the Master Sword, I didn't want to say otherwise. I just wanted to prove, that BOTH the girl and the sword are very important for the game and not just something, that happens during the end. Because then he would probably carry one of those weapons and the girl would be shown as a companion and not like something that looks like she is his sword.

The point is, - if the fairy girl really is the Master Sword - the artwork shows her as the center attention of the game. Every Zelda game has something special, Ocarina of Time had time travel, The Wind Waker had sea travelling, Twilight Princess had the wolf and so on - we all know this. I believe (and I say "I believe" as in theory), that your sword is actually a living entity this time around, which can transform into a fairy girl and even talk to you and which may have other special abilities we don't know about, and that this will be one of the most important main elements in the game. Otherwise they wouldn't release such an artwork as a teaser for the game.


@others: thanks for the support

I really hope they don't make it to only be compatible with the new wii that might be coming out next year as well. Could that be why they won't even mention the controls because they will be different? I think it will take place after the Twilight princess story. I think the girl that looks like the master sword might be controled separately like the wolf was, or maybe there will be the option for a two player adventure. Now I am just talking crazy talk now!

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Just worked out what new Wii Zelda is about in relation to the supposed "Master Sword."

" IGN: At your developer roundtable this week, you showed off a single piece of artwork from the next Wii Zelda game. This piece of art has not yet been released publicly, but we noticed that Link appears to have grown to full adulthood. He looks older than he did in Twilight Princess. Is that a correct assumption?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well, the story setting for this Zelda is, of course, in a completely different era and Link is older than he was previously. More approaching adulthood. There is one hint. Maybe from the art work you can see that he's not holding a sword. "




Basically, this game will be about the forging of the Master Sword and creating the pact with the six sages. It will take place during the time the interlopers (from TP) are sent to the Twilight Realm, during that great war that takes place where the land's peoples are fighting to establish dominion over the Sacred land of Hyrule as well as find the Sacred Realm. More epic than OoT really.

Okay, you can not make assumptions like this until more information is submitted. This information is pretty much nothing

^^If Nintendo Nintendo is really releasing a new version of the Wii it's surely going to support the older soft- and hardware as well. Cool things they could add to it are HD capability, integrated big (60-100 GB) hard drive and wiimote with WM+ in it. If this WII HD is really happening (which doubt) there won't be any major games in it at least for a year (Zelda Wii won't be a WII HD title).

Originally Posted by eskiqt21

I really hope they don't make it to only be compatible with the new wii that might be coming out next year as well.

There won't be a new Wii coming out next year, the Wii is going too strong to release a new system in the next two or three years, they would disrupt their own current marketing strategy. Their customers are not ready to move on to another system yet and there are more customers to make with the Wii. HD is not needed right now, because most people don't have a HD television anyway or don't care too much - they care about games. We can jump on that boat later, if HD is more common in households. And a harddrive can be added to the current Wii via USB, if the demands for that are getting higher. I'd say, the Wii has a life cycle of at least 6 years.

However, they are upgrading the Wii with the MotionPlus technology, that is going to be released this month. But Miyamoto said, they are leaving it open, if the new Zelda game will use it or not, which depends on the success of MotionPlus. But I certainly hope it will be successful, it has a lot of potential and looking at the archery and sword games in Wii Sports Resort gives me a nice impression of what can be done in Zelda.

But Miyamoto said, they are leaving it open, if the new Zelda game will use it or not, which depends on the success of MotionPlus.

Actually, WM+ is going to be in Zelda Wii anyway. Miyamoto said that depending on the sales of WSR (and WM+) they are going to make WM+ mandatory.

Maybe in the new game Jesus comes and makes the Mastah Sword!!!!!!!!

Seriously guys, if you want Zelda to be for an older audience, than that girl transforming into the master sword is a horrible theory. And if you read this:
"IGN: Has he lost his Master Sword?

Shigeru Miyamoto: [Laughing] I just wanted to make sure that you understand we are making it. That's all I'm going to say on that subject. "
That has no hint at all that she's the master sword, in fact I think it supports his theory better than the one that she'd the master sword

^But niether is there evidence against it.

im not attacking any one when i say this

the original poster had an awesome theory it is ONE of the better ones, but @ ganon the king, from someone sitting on the sidelines just reading this thread you come across like a collosal ass when you engage in a heated debate because people question your theory.

your theory isnt the best theory out there because no theory is the best one right now, cause all we have THATS PROVEN is one picture and a few lines from an interview. i thought your theory was great, just its no fun coming on the forums and reading people bickering over things that they really cant prove to be true. who really cares who has the best theory anyway at this point in time, any theory from a fans brain is going to be 99% speculation until more information is released.

theres no need to call people out by saying im yet to see a better theory, im a zelda fan and ive seen plenty of theorys that are just as good as yours. SOME I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE BETTER, but like i said who really cares theres no imaginary scale to grade who can make up the most crap about the new game.

people where offended by you saying your theory is the best because when people try to explain THEIR POINT OF VIEW on why your theory isnt the best, you attacked them personally.

seriously the last thing i wanted to do is sit here and type a few paragraphs about nothing its a waste of my time, but it actually annoyed me more then anything at the stupidity of some peoples remarks.

you had an awesome theory which had a cool storyline, leave it at that and let people think what they want!

Originally Posted by L176

^^If Nintendo Nintendo is really releasing a new version of the Wii it's surely going to support the older soft- and hardware as well. Cool things they could add to it are HD capability, integrated big (60-100 GB) hard drive and wiimote with WM+ in it. If this WII HD is really happening (which doubt) there won't be any major games in it at least for a year (Zelda Wii won't be a WII HD title).

What you just said has nothing to do with this thread.

Originally Posted by Majora108

^But niether is there evidence against it.

Exactly, so why are people arguing if there's not really any evidence for or against either theory?

You know, I just realized if that girl did become the mastersword at the END of the game, or near end.... then it would be extreemly odd for myamoto to reveal her existence/intentions like that. Its basicly end game spoilers with no spoiler tags to be found. So if/when she does assume her sword role, it'll surly be early early on.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

It seems like you all feel attacked by the fact that I'm saying this is the best possible theory out there. Though truth be told I haven't heard a better one. All I here is people saying, "You can't make theories yet we don't have enough information." Yes you can, there is easily enough information to work with.

Link does not have the sword.
This fact is significant.
His fairy-like partner looks similar to the Master Sword.

These are the only clues we have, and none of them point specifically to your theory. Your theory is possible and in terms of the Zelda universe it would be really cool, but it's not the best theory because there is no best theory- any theory that makes good use of in-universe information to explain the sword's absence is pretty equally likely at this point.

Originally Posted by TourianTourist

Sometimes. Especially when I decide not to simply ignore threads like this, because talking to walls is insane. Obviously. ^^


So, Link runs around the entire game with this fairy girl to get her sacrificed at the end of the game by letting some old dudes magically "forge" her into a sword? The thing is, Miyamoto explicitly pointed out, that Link is not carrying a sword. But do you really believe, that we now get an entire Zelda game without using a sword? Miyamoto wanted to give us the hint, that the fairy girl IS the sword, she's even standing there, where Link's sword would be. This means, she can transform into the Master Sword and back into a girl. Your sword as your companion, that's probaly the perfect sidekick and surpasses Navi and Midna by far. This means she will be an important part of the game and serve you as a sword ALL THE TIME. So, the forging of the Master Sword can't take place during the end of the game. Maybe it's covered at the beginning as some kind of backstory, that's definitely possible and I'm pretty sure, we're going to see that, but the game itself won't be about forging the sword. It's already there.

If the story really would be about getting this fairy girl "forged" into the Master Sword, then Link would carry a different weapon on the artwork, like some other sword for example. Just because the Master Sword doesn't exist right now, doesn't mean Link doesn't use any swords or other weapons. Because he always does. The artwork wants to say to you "this girl is your sword... all the time".

Of course this is just, how some Zelda fans including myself interpret the artwork. If you think differently and believe in your story, I'm totally okay with that, but please then don't say "it's the best theory there is", because you can't be sure about that.



Of course you do. Everyone does.


Seriously, it doesn't matter how you said it. You can't just go around bragging "my theory is the best out there", you don't do that, no matter how good you think it is. It's about the principle. And how do you even know? Have you read all the theories about the artwork and other official information out there in the internet? I seriously doubt so, considering you apparently didn't even know the artwork existed. And I'm sure, there are plenty of good and reasonable theories out there. You just believe your one is the best, because you have some kind of an ego problem or something.

No she doesn't have to get sacrificed at the end. It could have in the first 1/3 of the game or maybe in the 2/3 of the game. Or maybe at the beginning of the game she just starts out as a spirit/fairy and then becomes the master sword and can change from sword form to spirit form interchangeably. Then there's this bittersweet ending with a twist that she has to become the MS forever... sad moments.

Originally Posted by TourianTourist

Of course. And I'm pretty sure there will be other weapons next to the Master Sword, I didn't want to say otherwise. I just wanted to prove, that BOTH the girl and the sword are very important for the game and not just something, that happens during the end. Because then he would probably carry one of those weapons and the girl would be shown as a companion and not like something that looks like she is his sword.

The point is, - if the fairy girl really is the Master Sword - the artwork shows her as the center attention of the game. Every Zelda game has something special, Ocarina of Time had time travel, The Wind Waker had sea travelling, Twilight Princess had the wolf and so on - we all know this. I believe (and I say "I believe" as in theory), that your sword is actually a living entity this time around, which can transform into a fairy girl and even talk to you and which may have other special abilities we don't know about, and that this will be one of the most important main elements in the game. Otherwise they wouldn't release such an artwork as a teaser for the game.


@others: thanks for the support

Yes!! And just like Midna was your sidekick this new girl is your sidekick except she is your sword as well!!

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Yes!! And just like Midna was your sidekick this new girl is your sidekick except she is your sword as well!!

Yes, that is what I've been saying all the time... Nice to see us both agreeing at least in one point. ^^