Zelda? Playable Character?!

i'm sure this has been discussed many times in ZU but i must bring it up? is Zelda getting enough action in the "Zelda" series? i have discussed many a times with friends that she is getting a bit short changed in the series. personally, Link is the hero, it is what it is. but for all those who are big Zelda fans, i'm sure she would be an awesome playable character. i only recall once before in "Majora's Mask" that for a short period of time, Kafi, I believe his name was, was a playable character.

i'm a big fan of Zelda, her being a character in "Super Smash Brothers" but maybe she should have been a playable character in her own series before she was one in another.

So what is it? stay with tradition and leave the adventures to the one we all know and love, Link?

Give Zelda a bigger role and a little more interactive?

or

Give Zelda her own game and name it after Link? (I think we owe him a bit more than just the title "Zelda 2: The adventures of Link")

what you think mean Hyrule to me so hit me back.

from one fan to another,

squrbit

it would be nice to see more action for Zelda. I don't know about making her a playable character, but it would be good if she actually did something useful throughout the game instead of just getting kidnapped.

Originally Posted by Tyras

it would be nice to see more action for Zelda. I don't know about making her a playable character, but it would be good if she actually did something useful throughout the game instead of just getting kidnapped.

Well, she was useful in OoT. The only reason she was kidnapped was b/c she was giving link the light arrows.

true but a little more help than that would be nice. If you look on the large scale, her usefulb=ness hasent quite been up there

that's what i'm saying. just keep things the way they are. Link is the hero.
Zelda has been plenty helpful through-out the series but you know how it is. now days, people want to see more women characters in popular series. specially feminist. no offense to anyone.

I understand their point of veiw in this situation. I mean there are not really alot of female playable characters in main franchise, but if youve got something good, why screw with it?

Hilarious.

I do think Zelda should have a larger role in the games. Getting captured isn't really a benefit to anyone.
However, I do give credit that in recent years, she has been more than just the damsel in distress.

In OoT; she was able to transform into Shiek and offer Link access through different melodies.
...not to mention, she did somewhat assist in the final battle holding the falling tower up.

In TP; she did use the Arrows of Light to hit Gannondorf while on horseback. Link had no control over that aspect.

I just hope that she will gain more game time. Like Kafei in MM, a small play-through of something would help a story line.

Originally Posted by serenes

Like Kafei in MM, a small play-through of something would help a story line.

True. a smal play- through would help clear up some of he more confusing plot details real easily, more so than a story sequence would. But, then you must realize, that it would also need to go through another torturial for Zelda. THe move would have to be different. To be honest, do you think zelda would roll in a dress?

Do you think they should ever think of giving Zelda her own game? i mean, don't screw with what they've got now. if it isn't broken then don't fix it but...

what about Zelda getting her own game? it could be interesting. the world of "Zelda" is huge so possibilities are there. while Link is in a alternate world (Termina), she can be doing something in hyrule. Hero's need vacations too.

Originally Posted by Onigami0

True. a smal play- through would help clear up some of he more confusing plot details real easily, more so than a story sequence would. But, then you must realize, that it would also need to go through another torturial for Zelda. THe move would have to be different. To be honest, do you think zelda would roll in a dress?

Well, in a future game, why not just change the outfit?
You know, Royal Princess outfit when in a game sequence and then some kind of adventure clothing when out and about kicking bad guy booty.

Even Link in TP got a change of clothes for adventuring.


The change of controls don't have to be too different.
...Kafei's wasn't too different at all.

She may only playable for a short amount of time, but for real she will never become the main character in her so much called legends. She is and will stay as the damsel in distress. It is her destiny, otherwise Link wouldn´t have to save her from the (stereotypic) evil clutches of Ganon.

Only Peach has the luck to be the maincharacter in a Mario game.

And by the way: Samus is much more badass than a princess with a Mary Sue complex.

Originally Posted by squrbit

Do you think they should ever think of giving Zelda her own game? i mean, don't screw with what they've got now. if it isn't broken then don't fix it but... what about Zelda getting her own game? it could be interesting. the world of "Zelda" is huge so possibilities are there.

Meh, the concept of the Tri-Force gives us three main characters that are intertwined.

The Hero (Tri-Force of Courage)
The Princess (Tri-Force of Wisdom)
The Bad Guy (Tri-Force of Power)


I can't imagine that being messed up in anyway.
...and come on, unless executed INCREDIBLY well, Zelda might be looked upon as the next Princess Peach.

...in that game, Princess Peach uses her emotions has abilities...

Originally Posted by squrbit

Hero's need vacations too.

...IF LINK ISN'T SAVING HYRULE THEN HE IS WRESTLING FARM ANIMALS FROM ESCAPING!!!

Originally Posted by squrbit

Do you think they should ever think of giving Zelda her own game? i mean, don't screw with what they've got now. if it isn't broken then don't fix it but...

what about Zelda getting her own game? it could be interesting. the world of "Zelda" is huge so possibilities are there. while Link is in a alternate world (Termina), she can be doing something in hyrule. Hero's need vacations too.

I see what your saying. Yes that could be a good and interesting story line, but think of it this way, eventually she would have to break out of the castle to do hand to hand, or be limited to sending other units out to do battle in a Fire Emblem style rpg, or real time stratagy play causing you to think your every move.

Not really one against a thousand, but yoou would have units under you control.

Originally Posted by squrbit

lol, somehow she pulls off rolling in super smash brothers Melee and Brawl, but i see what you're saying. and Damn tutorials.

Lol told you. but still, veterans would like the chance,but not as long as it really affects the main game play, and controls of link. Maybe as an unlockable for beating the game a certain way, like not getting a single game over.

While changing the outfit would fix that problem, another problem would arise: the question of how does she, the princess change in public without gaining attention from guards, since she is royalty, and how does she move from here to there for dangerous missions and dungeon busting, as she is always guarded.

Sorry bro (serenes) but the concept isn't just the hero, the princess, and the bad guy. there have been several games that don't involve princess Zelda or Ganon, yet, it turned out fine. is this because truly, Link can support the whole series by himself or does he need them to have a good game.

obviously, we know it can be a good game without the other holders of the triforce.

Originally Posted by Onigami0

While changing the outfit would fix that problem, another problem would arise: the question of how does she, the princess change in public without gaining attention from guards, since she is royalty, and how does she move from here to there for dangerous missions and dungeon busting, as she is always guarded.

Never heard of the use of doubles? In Star Wars Episode 1 Queen Armidala uses a double for her own activities.

Originally Posted by Onigami0

I see what your saying. Yes that could be a good and interesting story line, but think of it this way, eventually she would have to break out of the castle to do hand to hand, or be limited to sending other units out to do battle in a Fire Emblem style rpg, or real time stratagy play causing you to think your every move.

Not really one against a thousand, but yoou would have units under you control.

...I kinda like that idea.

((Yay for Fire Emblem!))

Originally Posted by Onigami0

While changing the outfit would fix that problem, another problem would arise: the question of how does she, the princess change in public without gaining attention from guards, since she is royalty, and how does she move from here to there for dangerous missions and dungeon busting, as she is always guarded.

I'm not sure if she was always guarded. Normally, she had a personal attendant (Impa reincarnations). In plenty of movies and video games, a princess type character is able to escape for personal reasons.
Examples:

In Chrono Trigger, Marle was able to dress like a plain girl and go to the festival.

In Mario RPG, Princess Peach's nursemaid dressed like her.

In Wild Arms, Princess Cecelia went under disguise as well, not to mention cutting her hair.

Even in the Zelda games, she has been under disguise twice. Once as our beloved Shiek, and another in a state of Tetra.


I believe there are ways around it.

Originally Posted by squrbit

Sorry bro (serenes) but the concept isn't just the hero, the princess, and the bad guy. there have been several games that don't involve princess Zelda or Ganon, yet, it turned out fine. is this because truly, Link can support the whole series by himself or does he need them to have a good game.

obviously, we know it can be a good game without the other holders of the triforce.

What are you talking about?
In every Zelda game, that has been the one thing to stay consistent. It has always been a quest of a hero to save the princess from a bad guy.

Can you give me an example where that aspect was not valid?

Originally Posted by serenes

What are you talking about?
In every Zelda game, that has been the one thing to stay consistent. It has always been a quest of a hero to save the princess from a bad guy.

Can you give me an example where that aspect was not valid?

i'm just saying not all the Zelda games involve the use of the triforce.

Originally Posted by serenes

They don't?
Are you sure?

sure, if the game didn't have Ganon or Zelda in it.\, it didn't have the triforce in it or it wasn't important.

I think that having Zelda as a playable character during the normal gameplay really shouldn't happen. I think having her as playable for a short while during the game would work. As for her being in a dress, she could dress up as shiek. Having her as being unlockable at the end of the game would be nice too, but she really doesn't need to be the main character.