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Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

TLoZ: AfterLife

The Back Story:
The game would pick up after OoT when Ganon was sealed away, and after the events in MM. In a cutscene it would show how, after having the moon so close to the Earth, with such demonic power, the seal slipped, and eventually cracked, allowing Ganny to escape. After he escapes, he tries to take over, just like the plot in OoT, and once again, Link is up for the task of banishing him again. Link makes it all the way up to his castle, and gets to the final staircase, and that's where the game starts.


The Current:
You would start the game with a flashback of the previous events leading up to where you are now(like a little montosh of the temples, the people, and the adventures you went through before you got to the castle.) After the scene is over, it shows Link standing at the bottom of the stairwell, with only a sword, a bow and arrow, bombs, and a Zora's/Goron's tunic with him. Also, you have a seemingly useless item called the Spirits Cap. You walk up the staircase, and enter the final boss room. You expect to defeat Ganny, but to your surprise, there is absolutely no way to defeat him. So, Link gets slain. Ganny looks around, stupified. He quickly stabs you again in the chest, crams you into a cannon, and launches you to who knows where. As you watch your lifeless body rocket through the air, it fades away...

The scene cuts to a young boy, probably 14 or 15. He is laying in bed, reading a book about the goddesess in a dim light. As he flips the page, the light flickers, and completely burns out. The boy is left alone in the dark, and while he is ok with the dark, he can tell there is a odd feeling in the air. He stands up out of bed, only to find that his head is way to dizzy for him to even acomplish that. He sits back down, and as he does, 3 unique voices speak in his head, telling him that he is the new Hero of Time.
Voice1: "You, my son, are the Hero's replacement." As she speaks, the body of Din appears with a thin layer of flames surrounding her arms.
Voice2: "The evil King Ganon has taken over our fair land of Hyrule, and our previous Hero has fallen." As this voice speaks, the body of Nayru appears in a pool of bubbling water surrounding her feet, and the bubbles up all the way up past her head.
Voice3: "We need your help, please. Your our only chance." As you can guess, this last voice turns out to be Farore, with a green light coming from her chest, and leafs falling from her when she moves.

The boy sits there, amazed and shocked, but he decides it's whats best. So we shakes his head yes, and the 3 Goddesses blow a kiss at him. One of fire, one of water, and one of earth. As the kisses hit the boy, he is truely awakened as the new hero(or so he thinks.)

::::::Writers Notes::::::
Im just going to skip all of the dungeons and other things for a different time. It doesnt need to be like rp thing. Although this kinda does sound like it. Ill give give the basics.


Back to the Story:
After the first dungeon, you go to a cutscene where the you had fallen after being shot out from the cannon. As you lay there(in the gerudo desert), you get out up and look around. You notice that your tunic is now a ghostly green, and your also a pale white. All you have with you is the master sword, who even stays with you in death. You look down, and to your surprise, your body is there. You freak out, start to run, and end up at the gerudo training camp. There, a old psyhic who can see spirits. Your the first spirit she has seen in a while, so she is really freaked out. But she ends up giving you the down low on how a new hero was picked, not by mistake, but on purpose, because you needed a allie to get back into your body. The only way you could though, is to get the Spirit's Cap back, and place it on your physical bodies head. Thats why you need the new allie who is alive. So, the game would play as like a switch out game, where you eventually find the alive boy(who is also one of the few other people who can see you.) You would find each other after like, idk. The first temple. But after that, you would need to work together to defeat monsters, complete puzzles, and all of that other nice zelda jazz. OH! Btw, when your switched to ghost Link, it's kinda like when your a wolf in TP(when twilight was still there), and no one could see you. Except the only difference is that you can like, do ghostly interactions with the people(such as throw pots to freak the people out, listen in on conversations and then tell the RH((replacement hero)) about them, which does get him accused of witch craft at times, and etc.) After you defeat all of the temples, you find Link's body, and carry it to the entrance to the last dungeon. Ganny's dungeon. You go through that temple, as you did all of the other ones, and around the end of the temple, before you exit it to go tothe final battle, you learn from a spirit that Zelda went up to the top of the tower right after Link was destroyed to stop Ganny from his evil plans. She was trapped and drained of her life energy, and thats why she wasn't in the game at all up until this point. So, you go to the stairwell where you started the game, and walk up them, then enter the final boss room. A cutscene starts, showing a close up of Ganny's face. He spit in the RH's direction, and as it lands on the floor, he realizes that it's acid. It burns through the floor and he take a step to the side, revealing that your standing there. Ganny's eye buldge out and he sucks in air in shock. He screams and goes through the whole,"How when what and why?!?!?" thing, then fires a missle at the two of you. It misses, but blasts a wall open, revealing the room where zelda was trapped. She shouts and tells them his weak spot, which is he pulls all of his pain, feelings, and weaknesses into his spirit during a fight. So, you attack him first as Link, using your ghostly powers to attack at his soul. Ganny then realizes what is happening, and screams,"NOT AGAIN! THIS WILL NOT END AS IT DID BEFORE!" As he is shouting, the power he emites breaks the chains on Zelda's hand. He moves his weaknesses and such(which, btw looks like a pink cloud surrounding him.) to his pyhsical body. Thats when the RH has to fight him. This goes on until, finally, he is so beatened up, that he cant control where his weaknesses go. As a result of this, his weaknesses appear around his physical form, and his spirit form. The two heros look at each other, and standing side by side, with Zelda standing in the middle of them, they do a final attack. RH slashes his neck open with his sword by throwing it. Zelda shoots three light arrows into him at once. And Link stabs him in the chest with him master sword. All three of these attacks where at the same time, causing a overload. Ganny wasn't destroyed, but instead, turned to stone. As his body froze, he gives a wicked laugh, and the Spirits Cap falls out from the ceiling.

The Ending:
RH, Zelda, and Spirit Link leave the tower, which begains to crumble. Link puts the cap onto his physical form, which brings his body and spirit back together. The 3 Goddesses decent from the heavens and tell the 3 that there story will live down in time, but, this is the last adventure they would ever have together. So, as they walk out of sight, the camera moves at a high pace(showing a future skip). It shows Hyrule Castle, with unbelievable rain pouring down from the skys. As everybody in the town is talking about the sudden but unforgiving rain, a boy with tatoos and strang markings on his skin walks up into the view of the camera, until it is blocked out completely.



::::::Writer's Notes::::::
This is kind basically a prequel to this story
" http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/...e-trigger.html "
I know ive probably just skipped alot of info on this game thingy. sorry. it would be awesome if you gave me pointers, tips, and ideas on how to make this story line better. Also, if you have any more ideas? Like for the temples and stuff. I actually wanted there to be like 9 temples. 8 main ones, and a 9th opintional one after you defeat the game the first time.
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:56 PM
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Re: Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

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Re: Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

I think this is in the wrong section....but regardless...

Wow...First of all congratualtions on putting so much thought and detail into this, its generally impressive, not to mention the story was a good idea on its own anyway.

Although in the future try to be more brief its not a bad thing that you wrote so much but most people wouldnt take the time to read all of that.

Constuctive critiscm is occasionly good from other people but I find its better not to ask for plot ideas as then the story gets mixed up with other people perspectives, like you may have a generally dark outlook on the game and someone will come along and suggest an idea that in there perspective is all happy and 'light' then when people read the story they cant tell what tone etc the story is supposed to be and people get muddled.

...I think what I just said made sense...heh.

Just ask peoples opinion on how to build on your ideas is what im saying.

Anymawhozzle, it was good, I havent got any suggestions because I like how this is going. Keep it up, id love read a more in depth plot :]
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I think this is in the wrong section....but regardless...

Wow...First of all congratualtions on putting so much thought and detail into this, its generally impressive, not to mention the story was a good idea on its own anyway.

Although in the future try to be more brief its not a bad thing that you wrote so much but most people wouldnt take the time to read all of that.

Constuctive critiscm is occasionly good from other people but I find its better not to ask for plot ideas as then the story gets mixed up with other people perspectives, like you may have a generally dark outlook on the game and someone will come along and suggest an idea that in there perspective is all happy and 'light' then when people read the story they cant tell what tone etc the story is supposed to be and people get muddled.

...I think what I just said made sense...heh.

Just ask peoples opinion on how to build on your ideas is what im saying.

Anymawhozzle, it was good, I havent got any suggestions because I like how this is going. Keep it up, id love read a more in depth plot :]




haha thanks=]] i was just looking at this form about link dying or something, and im interrested in the great flood part of the game. so yeah. haha. and i thought maybe i should of put it in a different section, but idk. i guess i kinda thought of it as a future game type thing? idk(again.) haha. and yeah, i know it was long. but longer things are always better! (ok, not always. haha.) and yeah, i understand what your saying.=]] and if you liked that, youd probably like to read the story(the link i has up there) after the sequel to the game. haha, i loved it. and i might be working on a more in depth one soon, after i get some dungeon ideas and jazz from my friends.
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haha thanks=]] i was just looking at this form about link dying or something, and im interrested in the great flood part of the game. so yeah. haha. and i thought maybe i should of put it in a different section, but idk. i guess i kinda thought of it as a future game type thing? idk(again.) haha. and yeah, i know it was long. but longer things are always better! (ok, not always. haha.) and yeah, i understand what your saying.=]] and if you liked that, youd probably like to read the story(the link i has up there) after the sequel to the game. haha, i loved it. and i might be working on a more in depth one soon, after i get some dungeon ideas and jazz from my friends.
I might just check out the fanfic then :]

Im not all to keen on Link dying, but it would be an intresting concept to read about. They would never put it in a game though, Nintendo would be destroyed by the sheer amount of fangirls collapsing on top of them.
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Re: Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

Ok, well, I'm going to blunt. That was some poorly written fanfiction. At first I wasn't even willing to plow through that massive wall of text, but I took the plunge and was able to get through it.

The "Link Dying" idea doesn't seem to be done a lot on here, but I think there's a reason for that.

First off, your timeline is off. In the child timeline (the one MM is in), Ganondorf isn't sealed away. As is seen in TP, the Ancient Sages attempt to execute him for treason, which fails, sending him into the Twilight Realm and providing the first major distinction between the timelines.

Now don't take me as a person against making a major change to the series. I'm actually one of those people who brings up what others consider to be a total unreasonable idea. The idea of beginning with a flashback isn't too farfetched. I personally wouldn't be against it. If it were me though, I would probably give the player control of a character other than Link, like maybe Zelda.

Now as I am short on time, I'm going to go right for my other big issue: The Goddesses.

I am sick and tired of people having three omnipotent and all powerful beings be totally helpless against some mortal who isn't even using a THIRD of their power. These are GODS! Gods don't act all helpless when one microscopic organism (at least to them) decides to rise up and go on a long destructive rant.
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I might just check out the fanfic then :]

Im not all to keen on Link dying, but it would be an intresting concept to read about. They would never put it in a game though, Nintendo would be destroyed by the sheer amount of fangirls collapsing on top of them.



Haha, i thought about that too. but i like how the ending is on his story. and plus, i remember someone said in a thread about something that there will always be a new link. =pp
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Yeah, but I doubt they would emerge one after the other. That would make them expendable drones.
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Hey, a nice concept indeed having Link needing to be saved for once. One thing you may want to focus on is the characters themselves, for example what is the story behind the RH? I know of course that you may have just thought of this so I won't peddle you for details. But this is a nice start and you can build a great idea off of this. I really have nothing much to suggest except for character developement and maybe explaining the mechanics of the game, as well as a loose idea on how it will progress with levels and whatnot.
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Ok, well, I'm going to blunt. That was some poorly written fanfiction. At first I wasn't even willing to plow through that massive wall of text, but I took the plunge and was able to get through it.
ok, well, it was my first time. and if you werent willing to read threw it, then you should of just left the thread right when you opened it and seen there was alot of text.

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The "Link Dying" idea doesn't seem to be done a lot on here, but I think there's a reason for that.

First off, your timeline is off. In the child timeline (the one MM is in), Ganondorf isn't sealed away. As is seen in TP, the Ancient Sages attempt to execute him for treason, which fails, sending him into the Twilight Realm and providing the first major distinction between the timelines.
I do agree that my timeline is off in some parts. but i thought that they did seal him away in OoT. Idk, but if you read it right, then you would see that this was right after OoT and MM, but before WW. I wasnt following the timeline of TP, btw. I was following the Great Flood timeline.


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Now don't take me as a person against making a major change to the series. I'm actually one of those people who brings up what others consider to be a total unreasonable idea. The idea of beginning with a flashback isn't too farfetched. I personally wouldn't be against it. If it were me though, I would probably give the player control of a character other than Link, like maybe Zelda.

I like that idea, actually alot. It could show her like in her castle or something,recovering from the last time Ganny tried to take over. then she feels Link's death and goes to investigate and stop Ganny herself.



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Now as I am short on time, I'm going to go right for my other big issue: The Goddesses.

I am sick and tired of people having three omnipotent and all powerful beings be totally helpless against some mortal who isn't even using a THIRD of their power. These are GODS! Gods don't act all helpless when one microscopic organism (at least to them) decides to rise up and go on a long destructive rant.

For oneee, i do agree with you about this part. The Goddesses werent ment to act weak. BUT, you have to remember they just lost their old Hero of Time, and they need a new one, and they need him very quickly. So naturally they are going to act alittle less powerful than they should. i do like how you were blunt about this though, it gives me a better idea on what to do when i make my next ones. or maybe more of this one. idk yet.
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Sir caliber person, chillzizzle (Its a word I made!)

No need to be so blunt about it, and I think it was a idea, not a fanfic, otherwise he would have posted it in the other section.

Also his idea of what the correct timeline is may be different to yours.

Oh and I happen to think that its perfectly plausible for a mortal to kill three immortal Gods...Well maybe not...Heh

EDIT: Oh....the dude above me said what I said...well crap
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Hey, a nice concept indeed having Link needing to be saved for once. One thing you may want to focus on is the characters themselves, for example what is the story behind the RH? I know of course that you may have just thought of this so I won't peddle you for details. But this is a nice start and you can build a great idea off of this. I really have nothing much to suggest except for character developement and maybe explaining the mechanics of the game, as well as a loose idea on how it will progress with levels and whatnot.


well thank you=]] and yeah, he was kinda just a on the spot character pick. haha. i will probably keep working on this, adding little things, and big things. and i will most def get a back story on RH. haha i feel so happy you gave your feedback^_^''
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I do agree that my timeline is off in some parts. but i thought that they did seal him away in OoT. Idk, but if you read it right, then you would see that this was right after OoT and MM, but before WW. I wasnt following the timeline of TP, btw. I was following the Great Flood timeline.
Yes, but you're changing around part of the timeline that's already been confirmed. If your story follows MM, then Ganondorf was not sealed away due to the events of the Adult Timeline never happening thanks to intervention by Link and Zelda. The Great Flood doesn't occur in this timeline. It has been confirmed to take place in Adult (the one where Ganondorf had taken over Hyrule).

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For oneee, i do agree with you about this part. The Goddesses werent ment to act weak. BUT, you have to remember they just lost their old Hero of Time, and they need a new one, and they need him very quickly. So naturally they are going to act alittle less powerful than they should. i do like how you were blunt about this though, it gives me a better idea on what to do when i make my next ones. or maybe more of this one. idk yet.
But you're still having them act all defenseless. If they're really so concerned about the well being of the world, why don't they kill Ganondorf themselves? He's only using a small chunk of their power that was left behind when they finished making our world. They could probably snap their fingers and erase him from existence.
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Yes, but you're changing around part of the timeline that's already been confirmed. If your story follows MM, then Ganondorf was not sealed away due to the events of the Adult Timeline never happening thanks to intervention by Link and Zelda. The Great Flood doesn't occur in this timeline. It has been confirmed to take place in Adult (the one where Ganondorf had taken over Hyrule).



But you're still having them act all defenseless. If they're really so concerned about the well being of the world, why don't they kill Ganondorf themselves? He's only using a small chunk of their power that was left behind when they finished making our world. They could probably snap their fingers and erase him from existence.
For your first statement, I agree wholeheartedly about it not fitting smoothly in the timeline. Maybe if, DrFeelGood666, you could take ALL the elements and story, but only fit them somewhere else, or add build up before and after the story of this game idea itself? Just maybe change some things like what happens to Ganon so timeline theorists can be happy, it's ridiculous but it makes sense.

for the Second, the Goddesses actions are never really explained, Sir Calibur. for example, why didn't they just kill Ganon WITHOUT flooding all of Hyrule? Why don't they just kill him in every game?
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:45 PM
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Re: Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

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Yes, but you're changing around part of the timeline that's already been confirmed. If your story follows MM, then Ganondorf was not sealed away due to the events of the Adult Timeline never happening thanks to intervention by Link and Zelda. The Great Flood doesn't occur in this timeline. It has been confirmed to take place in Adult (the one where Ganondorf had taken over Hyrule).



But you're still having them act all defenseless. If they're really so concerned about the well being of the world, why don't they kill Ganondorf themselves? He's only using a small chunk of their power that was left behind when they finished making our world. They could probably snap their fingers and erase him from existence.




hmmm, well you do bring up good points. how about we agree to disagree?
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:59 PM
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Hey, a nice concept indeed having Link needing to be saved for once. One thing you may want to focus on is the characters themselves, for example what is the story behind the RH? I know of course that you may have just thought of this so I won't peddle you for details. But this is a nice start and you can build a great idea off of this. I really have nothing much to suggest except for character developement and maybe explaining the mechanics of the game, as well as a loose idea on how it will progress with levels and whatnot.
The last time Link was being saved it was in a craptacular CDi game. The same mistake shouldn't be made twice.
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Re: Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

All Links die, you can get them killed in-game.
they could just add a cut-scene of the consequences that failing to save Hyrule would do.
Kinda like in Banjo Kazooie, when you lost you could watch what happens to Banjo's sister if you don't save her.
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Old 06-01-2009, 08:42 PM
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Re: Ok, so, I have a game idea about Link dying.

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All Links die, you can get them killed in-game.
they could just add a cut-scene of the consequences that failing to save Hyrule would do.
Kinda like in Banjo Kazooie, when you lost you could watch what happens to Banjo's sister if you don't save her.
Never played Banjo Kazooie but I like this idea for a Zelda game. Maybe even a Mass Effect inspired dialogue system to lead you to certain outcomes like dying.
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