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Old 04-05-2009, 06:08 PM
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Unhappy TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Think about it.
I'm pretty positive that next time (not necessarly ST) we'll see Ganny it will be because someone found his statue on the bottom of the Great Sea (or in the de-flooded Hyrule, to mantain peace between theorists), pulled out/broke the master sword, and freed Ganon's spirit/body/essence.
That was my though since the first time I completed the game. I remember I said "Oh, look! Next time someone will pull out that sword reverting that stone effect!". What do you think? Is there a chance to see the return of the Ganondorf of TWW in future games (maybe clearing up a bit the timeline issue)? Why didn't they show Ganny just dying or disappearing? I know Nintendo has to make new villains...but in the ending of TWW I saw the regular "modus operandi" they use for villains to always come back (remeber Vaati...and a thousand of others videogames and fantasy movies, comics, etc that share this cliché)...

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Old 04-05-2009, 06:17 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Ganondorf always comes back one way or another. More details are tied within the crazy timeline.

If there was a sequel to Wind Waker (I don't know because I don't pay attention), and if Ganondorf was in it... than he already has.
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:26 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Well the fact that Ganondorf is almost certainly going to find a way to come back...

Thats my argument that Hyrule will come back too. XP Besides the Great Sea is a dead lifeless ocean of no benefit to any of its inhabitants.
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:34 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

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Ganondorf always comes back one way or another. More details are tied within the crazy timeline.

If there was a sequel to Wind Waker (I don't know because I don't pay attention), and if Ganondorf was in it... than he already has.
Besides timeline speculations, no, he didn't made a direct come back after TWW, for now. This thread wouldn't have sense, if he did! =P
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:48 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Of course he can come back! Note, "He is sealed away". Just like in OoT. And tbh, he was more "reduced to nothing" in ALttP and still came back.
Prolly he'll rise the kingdom of Hyrule out of the sea again. What happens to the islands? Dunno ^^
But I'd love to see Vaati again, he's damn cool. He's in 3 games so far, right? FS, FSA and TMC?
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:52 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Yes, after TWW, Ganon returns in: OoS/OoA, AlttP, LoZ and in FSA
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:19 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

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His brain is damaged.
Brain? Anyway there is a chance that he is going to be back but I counted Phantom Hourglass as the sequel because you're Toon Link and you're in a boat but you don't know he might be back in Spirit Tracks.
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:31 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

I read someplace that Aonuma wanted Ganondorf to die a normal headstab death in tWW, but had him turned into stone because it didn't match the game's graphical style or something, so if that were to happen, his soul might've been released.

But I don't think intent counts in this...
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:27 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Phantom hourglass is a DIRECT sequel to tWW, it takes place not long after the events of WW
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:27 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Aonuma confirmed in an interview that Ganondorf died in the ending of TWW.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:32 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

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Aonuma confirmed in an interview that Ganondorf died in the ending of TWW.
Maybe so, but he could have just as easily said that he died in TP, OoT, aLttP as well couldn't he?

And where is Windwaker generaly placed in the timline?
Because if it's before OoT, aLttP, TP or any game that he was in
then he obviously didnt die (for good) in WW did he?
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:29 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

I think he could return after Wind-waker... and my personal belief is that he does.

But Twilight... if he comes back after Twilight, all my ideas are screwed. >.<

There's also the point that he DIED at the end of Legend of Zelda; he's dead during Link's Awakening.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:51 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

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I read someplace that Aonuma wanted Ganondorf to die a normal headstab death in tWW, but had him turned into stone because it didn't match the game's graphical style or something, so if that were to happen, his soul might've been released.

But I don't think intent counts in this...
Personally I consider turning someone to stone a Family Friendly Form of Carnage.

The character essentially dies, but they can possibly be revived, and best of all, no blood or gore. So it's a rather cutsie way of dealing death to a character.

Veran had a habit of turning the inhabitants of Labrynna to stone.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:01 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Nothing's ever final in The Legend of Zelda, not really. The game developers could always come up with some reason to revive him.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:46 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Why does everybody always assume that there's only one Ganon in the timeline? I'm pretty sure that he gets reincarnated like Link and Zelda do - Four Swords Adventures is pretty much proof of that.

If they wanted to bring him back, they could just give him another incarnation.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:52 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

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Why does everybody always assume that there's only one Ganon in the timeline? I'm pretty sure that he gets reincarnated like Link and Zelda do - Four Swords Adventures is pretty much proof of that.

If they wanted to bring him back, they could just give him another incarnation.

I think if they could kill him they would, instead of sealing him for the next Link, Zelda and set of Sages to worry about.

Can you imagine:

Link: OMG we has to kill Ganondorf!
Nabooru: Sounds like too much effort!
Saria: Let's not and say we did!
Ruto: OMG GUIZ! Why don't we just seal him away? He can be someone else's problem in 500 years!
Impa: I like that plan! We can just send Link's great great great great great grandson to kill him.
Link: Well.... I do need to spend some more time at the local Foot Locker. My boss says if I take any more overtime, I'll get fired.
Darunia: And I want more time to spend with my collection of vintage Happy Meal Toys!

And thus it began.
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:18 AM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

I'm pretty sure he's dead, but we've seen turned-to-stone status undone on more than one occasion.
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:42 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

The Master Sword has always acted as a sort of seal throughout the Zelda games. It was the gateway to the Sacred Realm in OOT, and kept Hyrule frozen in WW, and I imagine it's doing just the same for Ganondorf. He has the bloody Triforce of Power, I think he'd find a way for his soul to survive as it always does. However, I doubt there's any chance of him returning while the blade of evil's bane is stuck in him. But I imagine once the sword is removed, his powers would be able to function again.

I believe, however, that not just anybody would be able to pull the sword. So, thinking of a scenario where the true hero has need to pull the Master Sword, thus releasing Ganondorf in the process, would be very hard methinks.
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

Although I want to see a new enemy for Link, I don't want them to completely get rid of Ganon either.

They should make him a secondary enemy, like Zant... or they could make him a recurring boss, like Gohma... but more of a serious threat.

It would be cool if he was resurrected like Stallord and Volvagia... And he was, like, umm... the boss the Fire Temple or something.

Another proposal would be the split of his two entities: Ganon the pig, and Ganondorf the king of thieves. And to further complicate the matter, throw in "Gannon", the impostor from the CD-i games.
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Old 04-09-2009, 08:01 PM
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Re: TWW ending: Can Ganon return?

^What they could do is split Ganondorf and Ganon, and say that Ganondorf himself was actually not all that bad, just powerhungry, and have him fight alongside Link in order to keep Ganon, who would seem more "end-of-the-world" evil, from destroying the world. Ganondorf himself strikes me as more powerhungry that suicidal. I don't know, maybe it's just me.

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And where is Windwaker generaly placed in the timline?
Because if it's before OoT, aLttP, TP or any game that he was in
then he obviously didnt die (for good) in WW did he?
It takes place a while after the adult ending of OoT, about where TP occurs in the child timeline, I'd estimate. The beginning blatantly states that it is after OoT, that's for sure.
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