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Old 02-06-2009, 10:11 AM
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Could a game about the flood really work?

We've all played Wind Waker. We've all heard about Valley Of The Deluge. But let's think about it; could they, and should they, create a game about the Flood?

Wind Waker establishes that apparently no hero came to defeat Ganondorf. For one reason or another, Ganondorf went "undefeated", and there was no Link. That in itself causes an enormous problem, doesn't it? Okay, Valley Of The Deluge worked around that by making the hero "not really Link", but that's a massive cop-out, isn't it? Of course, they could always make it so that a hero did appear (and sealed Ganondorf under the flood waters, saved civilians, etc.) but simply went unacknowledged (much like most Link's - OOT Link is possibly the only one recognised for his deeds) and so was eventually lost in the hundreds of retellings of the Flood story.

But what of story and gameplay? As a person who admires new ideas, you might feel that making a game about the flood is simply shameless and unneccessary fanservice instead of innovation. But is there any room for a flood game? Surely it could present some interesting ideas?

I personally would not mind a game about the flood (although I'd much prefer that they came up with new ideas), so long as it does it right and doesn't contradict what Wind Waker says about the flood. Plus, it would be a good way to bring back the whole "impending doom" feeling of Majora's Mask, although it could potentially end up seeming like a MM copycat.

Imagine it - a game in the adult timeline, with a Hyrule only a few hundred years ahead of OOT. The graphics could be realistic, and the water would be phenomenal, if they incorporated the water graphics of TP/SMG and the wave physics of Wave Race 64.

They could draw some comparisons to the Noah's Ark story too, if they wanted to get really deep. Imagine a system with 40 days on a timer, each being some 10-30 minutes long, and the water would rise in real-time. The game could involve building a big boat and evacuating the races to it, only it would come with the bitter realisation that you can only save so many of the races and wildlife in Hyrule. This could offer a more "objective" based gameplay style, on capturing Hyrule wildlife and convincing tribes to come with you to the boat, rather than shallow dungeon-running. Of course, there would be a certain amount of neccessary dungeons to go through, for items such as the Master Sword, but by and large it would be an almost side-quest based game. At the end of a day, you can choose to redo the day if you feel you have done it wrong, and you must redo a day (without choice) if you do not fulfill a certain amount of objectives in one day.

So what do you think? Could they pull off a flood-based game? Should they bother?
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:53 AM
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Re: Could a game about the flood really work?

Its not a bad idea, it could probably take place after Link returns from Termina, or like you said, a few hundred years after OOT. It could look like MM, everytime you would have to return back a couple of days in time. But i rather pick a new Zelda with alot of new ideas and a completely different story. And also new to the timeline, instead of playing something that people already know about.
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:57 AM
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Re: Could a game about the flood really work?

I was with you up until the Noah's Ark bit.

I don't think it'd be shameless Fanfare for them to do that era, but I doubt it'd happen. Then again, I'm one of those people who belive that every Zelda game yet to come will raise more questions than answers. I hinestly believe that Nintendo will never let the Zelda story be known in its entirty. (sp?)
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:07 AM
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Re: Could a game about the flood really work?

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I was with you up until the Noah's Ark bit.

I don't think it'd be shameless Fanfare for them to do that era, but I doubt it'd happen. Then again, I'm one of those people who belive that every Zelda game yet to come will raise more questions than answers. I hinestly believe that Nintendo will never let the Zelda story be known in its entirty. (sp?)

Oh come now, you know that the whole "the Godesses flooded the world to rid it of it's evil's" thing was well and truly stolen from the Bible.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:13 PM
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Re: Could a game about the flood really work?

Alot of the ideas of Zelda comes from the bible^

A game revolved around the flood could be nice. It could also be a way to peice together the timeline but I think I'm ready for a completely fresh new Zelda. You know... One of those kind of Zelda games that's not so obvious as to where it goes into the timeline. I like the hype when everyone is confused and guessing on where the particular story goes.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: Could a game about the flood really work?

Ok, going to modify your idea a bit.
First of all this hero can not face Ganon, would not make sense with the story. Forgotten is a poor excuse.

The story says in WW that the gods chose who should live. So this is where your noah's ark idea can come from. The Gods told a man to build an ark and to save those people who will server a purpose for the future. Now at the beginning people will think your a joke, but Princess Zelda and the King will know the truth.

Not sure if this game would be worth creating, unless if they want to capture a new type of audience.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:14 PM
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The story says in WW that the gods chose who should live. So this is where your noah's ark idea can come from. The Gods told a man to build an ark and to save those people who will server a purpose for the future. Now at the beginning people will think your a joke, but Princess Zelda and the King will know the truth.
The survivors went to the mountaintops, not on a boat.

In my opinion, this game doesn't really work cuz there's no room for the hero. The gods direstly told the people what to do, and no recognizable hero came. I think they should just get a new idea.

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I like the hype when everyone is confused and guessing on where the particular story goes.
You've got a point, if they give away the real order and the full legend, everyone will know and there'll be no more mystery. Half the fun of the games is guessing and trying to connect the dots yourself.
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:13 PM
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Re: Could a game about the flood really work?

GamenerdAdvance: Not necessarily. There are hundreds of religions which have a global flood myth - it seems to be a fairly common theme. For example, in Ancient Greek mythology, Zeus floods the world to rid it off the Silver Race, and so on. In fact, the Christian version of the flood was probably an adapted version of the Gilgamesh flood story of Babylon myths - it certainly is far from being the first flood story.
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:42 PM
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GamenerdAdvance: Not necessarily. There are hundreds of religions which have a global flood myth - it seems to be a fairly common theme. For example, in Ancient Greek mythology, Zeus floods the world to rid it off the Silver Race, and so on. In fact, the Christian version of the flood was probably an adapted version of the Gilgamesh flood story of Babylon myths - it certainly is far from being the first flood story.
Yes, but Zelda has been known to reference Christianity and Islam far too often.
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:47 PM
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"Too often"? It isn't that often. If anything, it references Shinto more than anything else.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:18 PM
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Yes, but Zelda has been known to reference Christianity and Islam far too often.
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"Too often"? It isn't that often. If anything, it references Shinto more than anything else.
I never really noticed either of those. Could someone fill me in? I hate being clueless...
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