New Main Antagonist.

I think in the next, new, Zelda game there should be a new MAIN villian.
I'm getting very bored with Ganon and his attempts at world domination.

I was thinking maybe not only a new antagonist is needed but possibly someone I might not expect to be a bad guy. Someone like....Zelda?

I think Zelda shouldn't always be portrayed as the damsel who always screws something up in her kingdom and is always rescued by Link.

Maybe she could be the manipulative, power hungry ***** who manages to kill ganondorf and obtain the triforce of power as a result of slaying him?

just maybe?

Interesting suggestion. But she seems a little too noble for that, however, it may indeed happen.

Agreed. I would like to see a new villain introduced. It would be interesting to see Zelda turn evil in the game.

I don't see Zelda as being evil herself. However, if she were under the influence of a malevolent entity, that could have the potential to work.

Another idea I had for an antagonist at one point was a barbarian king from a neighboring nation that sought to expand his power by toppling the mighty Hyrule. He and his army were based somewhat on the Mongols.

Originally Posted by The Great Panda

I don't see Zelda as being evil herself. However, if she were under the influence of a malevolent entity, that could have the potential to work.

Another idea I had for an antagonist at one point was a barbarian king from a neighboring nation that sought to expand his power by toppling the mighty Hyrule. He and his army were based somewhat on the Mongols.

Maybe the Triforce of Power is that malevolent entity. What if Link had not only destroyed ganon but severed his hand so that if ganon were to return, he'd be powerless.

Hyrule vs. Termina

Epic war?

:3

Originally Posted by RENEEgade

Maybe the Triforce of Power is that malevolent entity. What if Link had not only destroyed ganon but severed his hand so that if ganon were to return, he'd be powerless.

I don't think the Triforce of Power is inherently evil as much as it is influenced by its holder.

Originally Posted by The Great Panda

I don't think the Triforce of Power is inherently evil as much as it is influenced by its holder.

well you don't know that.
Maybe there's more to why Ganon is so evil.

Well, think about it: why would the benevolent goddesses create something that is malevolent? It just doesn't fit.

As for why Ganondorf is so evil, that was explained very well in The Wind Waker. Ganon went into great detail about how he despised Hyrule and its denizens because they were so prosperous while his people were cast aside and dying.

EDIT: It is also said that the Triforce has no real allegiance, and simply grants the desires of the one who holds it. Just thought I'd point that out.

What if Link had not only destroyed ganon but severed his hand so that if ganon were to return, he'd be powerless.

It's not the hand that holds the piece, it's his heart. The hand only shows it so he can see it within his grasp. sorry if i come off as a bit angry, i'm just sayin'.
=]

Originally Posted by William

Hyrule vs. Termina

Epic war?

:3

no one knows where Termina exactly is.
Some believe it's a mirrored world, others say it's a distant land.

If it is a distant land, it'd be hard for the soldiers of Termina to travel to Hyrule.
If it's a mirrored world in a different dimention, it'd be impossible unless they can somehow travel there through a strange form of magic

Originally Posted by RENEEgade

I think in the next, new, Zelda game there should be a new MAIN villian.
I'm getting very bored with Ganon and his attempts at world domination.

I was thinking maybe not only a new antagonist is needed but possibly someone I might not expect to be a bad guy. Someone like....Zelda?

I think Zelda shouldn't always be portrayed as the damsel who always screws something up in her kingdom and is always rescued by Link.



Maybe she could be the manipulative, power hungry ***** who manages to kill ganondorf and obtain the triforce of power as a result of slaying him?

just maybe?

Wow! What a STUPID idea. JK . I know you thought. Actually that would be pretty cool. Maybe she would kill ganon and obtain the triforce of power but there is a twist. Someone more powerful than Ganon himself is controlling Zelda to obtain all three triforce parts.

I am a man of all emotions.

Originally Posted by RENEEgade

I was thinking maybe not only a new antagonist is needed but possibly someone I might not expect to be a bad guy. Someone like....Zelda?

Originally Posted by Twilight Reaper

Zelda turn evil in the game.

Originally Posted by The Great Panda

I don't see Zelda as being evil herself.

How about Link turning into Dark Link instead of Zelda turning evil.

How about a completely new villain that has the Triforce of Power? Just as new Link and Zelda keep getting their ancestor's Triforces, why can't another villain get Ganondorf's Triforce? The new villain could be Ganondorf's reincarnation or successor or something, but he still could have a completely different personality. Extremely calm or violently insane, there's a lot of possibilities.

Originally Posted by Ashanark

How about a completely new villain that has the Triforce of Power? Just as new Link and Zelda keep getting their ancestor's Triforces, why can't another villain get Ganondorf's Triforce? The new villain could be Ganondorf's reincarnation or successor or something, but he still could have a completely different personality. Extremely calm or violently insane, there's a lot of possibilities.

Just as I said. Maybe the person controlling Zelda could be Ganons reincarnation.

Originally Posted by The Great Panda

Well, think about it: why would the benevolent goddesses create something that is malevolent?.

well that's just it! What if one of the goddesses WASN'T benevolent?
this is just my theory but I mean atleast one of the goddesses must be corrupt to let someone like Ganon possess the Triforce of Power.

Unless the Triforce itself decides based on attributes related to it, e.g. the Triforce of Courage chose Link because he was incredibly courageous, etc.

Originally Posted by The Great Panda

Unless the Triforce itself decides based on attributes related to it, e.g. the Triforce of Courage chose Link because he was incredibly courageous, etc.

well I'm assuming that the godesses created the Triforce and if that's the case then They should be able to control what piece of the Triforce should an individual possess.

Yes, they did, but the goddesses are very detached from the land they created. I haven't played all of the games, but in none of them have the goddesses played an actual role beyond being a story element. Like I said before, the Triforce chooses based on the characteristics relevant to the Triforce in question and doesn't bother with the host's alignment. Ganondorf was very powerful, so logically, the Triforce of Power went to him despite being evil.

And I quote a post I made a while ago regarding Zelda as a villain:

Hmm, that would be some good expansion for the idea. My version of it, however, would veer more towards the Sage being the only people in Hyrule with another power to bring her family back. I imagine she might try and reason with them to open the Sacred Realm so she could enter it to pull her family out. The Sages refuse…and blood is shed over it. Zelda finally has the power to bring her family back, but the death of the other Sages effectively undoes the seal on Ganon and allows for the corruption of the Sacred Realm and with it, the erasing of her family from existence.

With her last anchor of sanity gone, she finally cracks. Her methods suddenly become much more brutal. She pours over old spell books, searching for some sort of loophole to bring her family back. Finally, she comes across what could be her only solution:

Time travel

I think that, if this idea is refined and completed, that one of the main ideas during the story would be whether or not Zelda is really a villain. We could see an emotional conflict in Link (since we would probably still be playing as him) over whether or not he feels it would be right (or if he even could) to kill her.

I could actually imagine this as being the only Zelda game with two endings. Not necessarily good and evil endings, just two different paths based on whether you believe Zelda deserves redemption or death at that point.

I will add more if someone takes interest in this part.

It would seem at the moment you prefer the idea of Zelda being a puppet, while I want her to be a morally conflicted villain. Hmm, which would make the better game, I wonder, which would make the better game...