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Old 01-28-2009, 12:30 AM
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The so-called "wars"

It bothers me that even though the games are always referred to be "wars" by other titles in the series, there never is any actual "wars" going on.

It's mostly just Link fighting people by himself (which is hardly what I would call a war)

so i thought, "wouldn't it be nice if the next zelda game consisted of being in an actual war?"

maybe they could do this, there would be one or two major battles in the game, and Link would be declared the commander of the Hyrulean Army by Zelda. You would plan out the strategies somehow (somewhat adding a strategy aspect to the game). Then your hundreds of Hylians (and all the other races, if they're willing to do it) would duke it out against all the moblins and such somewhere in Hyrule (I'm thinking Hyrule Field right now, or maybe even Hyrule Castle in a sort of siege battle).

Now, this wouldn't happen often, maybe just once or twice, so that it doesn't interfere with the rest of the game. but it would be a nice addition, and would make the game slightly more credible, don't you think?
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:41 AM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

It reminds me too much of Pikmin. :/
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:44 AM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

There were alot of threads like this.
But i think that its a good idea, only as a spinoff game.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:44 AM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

The war actually happened in some of the Zelda series, Link just wasn't involved. Link is eventually there, doing it alone or with a companion, to fix up whatever is left after the war.

For example, ALttP:

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Link took no part while that serious event happened, and eventually became a hero to restore the people.

If a new Zelda game is going to be some strategy game, it won't feel like Zelda to me. I like it that Link is seen as a normal person with some sort of mystery around him (Majora's Mask did great on that part). It would just feel awkward to see him as a commander commanding a crowd of people, I like him as a sort of an outcast.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:54 AM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

oh shoot! there's already been threads like this? oh well, maybe I should have looked at previous threads before posting this...

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If a new Zelda game is going to be some strategy game, it won't feel like Zelda to me. I like it that Link is seen as a normal person with some sort of mystery around him (Majora's Mask did great on that part). It would just feel awkward to see him as a commander commanding a crowd of people, I like him as a sort of an outcast.
i never said that it would become a strategy game. just one or two battles, just to make it more epic and so that the people of Hyrule don't seem like if they're completely oblivious to the world around them. Adding something new to a game won't destroy it (unless it's really far-out, that is) and as I said, it would only be used sparingly, so the whole "go into dungeons, fight monsters, and win" aspect of the Zelda series would remain intact.

And why would Link be an outcast? After all, he practically has zero personality besides the "generic hero" one.

But I don't know. It may be that I'm already spoiled with the Fire Emblem series, but I think that it would make a nice addition to the game.
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:02 AM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

I think it would be cool to be able to command small groups of soldiers for a short time in the game (make it like a squad based shooter style control scheme, with certain commands mapped to the D pad or something), with the ability to do stuff like set up a soldier to snipe enemies with a bow, have another one plant a bomb on a cracked wall, and have a third man a nearby cannon, while you take out enemies with your sword. However, I think it would detract way to much to control an entire army.
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:01 AM
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Link would be declared the commander of the Hyrulean Army
I'm sure that Link, a travelling young swordsman/cowboy, has more experience in warfare than the professional officers of the army. Heh.

And hundreds of troops battling on Wii/Ds, while using the same game engine and graphics as the rest of the game could be somewhat hard to do.
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I'm sure that Link, a travelling young swordsman/cowboy, has more experience in warfare than the professional officers of the army. Heh.

And hundreds of troops battling on Wii/Ds, while using the same game engine and graphics as the rest of the game could be somewhat hard to do.
^ As Otuz has pointed out, you can't put too much into the Wii like a war in a movie. It will just freeze the console.

But maybe a small thing happening between races that Link will get involved with to end it with peace.

For example: The Zora's shut off the Hyrule's water supply, so everyone is angry with the Zoras to force the gates open themselves in great numbers to battle. =/
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Re: The so-called "wars"

The most I'd want would be a war in the middle of the story. Anything else would be like a Zelda RTS, or something like a samurai hack n slash.
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:39 AM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

I think i should have a small part in the story, and should also be more of a civil war. Like, to get to the Goron's land, you have to face the Humans who have decided to cut the gorons off from the world, and sell their bombs for themselves.
Idk, just thinking.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:38 PM
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I think this would ruin the series.
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:41 PM
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Re: The so-called "wars"

It would be cool to have a huge battlefield full of monsters and some allies whom you couldn't control helping out. Basically like the boss battle in WW but with lots of Tetras and Ganondorfs. It wouldn't be the whole game though.

And if you want to control a small group of warriors, play Four Swords Adventures.



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It bothers me that even though the games are always referred to be "wars" by other titles in the series, there never is any actual "wars" going on.
Well, the one time this actually happens is OoT, and a lot of people died and Link was out of action for seven years. None of the other games have really been spoken of as wars at all. Just sayin'.
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Well, the one time this actually happens is OoT, and a lot of people died and Link was out of action for seven years. None of the other games have really been spoken of as wars at all. Just sayin'.
I think he means a war that you actually get to experience.
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Old 01-29-2009, 12:11 AM
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I was always one who thought they should make novelizations for the in-between stuff...
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Re: The so-called "wars"

I agree with Caulaincourt that battles would be fun if you could only control Link. Perhaps near the end of the game the villain would try an all-out attack on Hyrule. There would be Hylian soldiers fighting Moblins and such. The Hylians wouldn't win one-on-one, of course, so Link would have to help 'em out.

There could be small cavalry skirmishes (Link and a couple of knights against some mounted enemies) or gate defenses. But there probably couldn't be more than 20 people in the battle at a time, or else the game would be laggy.
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I agree with Caulaincourt that battles would be fun if you could only control Link. Perhaps near the end of the game the villain would try an all-out attack on Hyrule. There would be Hylian soldiers fighting Moblins and such. The Hylians wouldn't win one-on-one, of course, so Link would have to help 'em out.

There could be small cavalry skirmishes (Link and a couple of knights against some mounted enemies) or gate defenses. But there probably couldn't be more than 20 people in the battle at a time, or else the game would be laggy.
I think we should wait until the future consoles can hold more animation and motion into the screen before making a war in the world of Zelda.

Otherwise, too much lagging will annoy a lot of fans out there.
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