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Old 01-07-2009, 07:05 PM
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A new Celda game

(For those that don't know, Celda = Cel-Shaded Zelda game)

I think that there should be another Celda style game on a console. Why is that? Well, for one thing, the art style is just beautiful, and on a newer console the cel-shading would look phenomenal. And just look at all of this Celda style artwork, depicting characters from TP, OoT, and many more of the games (along with some original characters):

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And while you look, listen/watch this to get the feel of WW:

YouTube - Wind Waker Unplugged (<<< This guy does all of the instruments himself!)

And remember, just because it's Celda does not mean that there would be sailing, nor does it have to be a sequel to WW/PH. Just awesome graphics and more possibilities!
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:27 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

The Cel-shaded style is a nice one, and they have managed to pull it off very nicely. I know I wouldn't mind ot see another game with it (not TOO much, at least), but I don't think we need much more of this particular style. At least, the drawing style of Windwaker in particular, has been stretched through Four Swords, Minish Cap, Windwaker and Phantom Hourglass.

It's a nice style. But something new and interesting is needed to keep Zelda fresh.

Another possibility is a different style, but still cel-shaded. That way, they can still bring back what is generally liked by some, and have it being new as well.

On that note, a cel-shaded Zelda game would be neat, if it tryed something a little different.

But that's my opinion :]. There's no law to it at all. XD

Personally, I would be extremely happy to see them try to use more of the non-cel-shaded style for the big console games. It is a Wii afterall, and I really want to see what they can do with it.

But either way, Cel-shaded or no. It'd be brilliant to get a new game.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:56 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

I said perhaps. If they do infact continue with the Cel Shade subseries, I at least hope the next title will be more like WW. I wasn't too impressed with PH's gameplay, as the game was more like a puzzle/strategy game, rather than the role playing game it usually is. Hopefully this time they'll bring Ganon back or at least introduce a more appealing villain. Do I want it to be the next game? No, I would like to see them continue with the realism of TP, but it appears Nintendo like to make a pattern between Celda and the main series now.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:22 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

I'd much rather the next Zelda takes full advantage of wii's hardware. Cel-shaded is fine for DS, however.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:25 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

I agree with IkanaGeneral197. I do enjoy the cel-shaded graphics but I really want to see what the Wii's capable of in terms of realistic graphics.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:51 PM
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I'd much rather the next Zelda takes full advantage of wii's hardware. Cel-shaded is fine for DS, however.
Cel shading doesn't mean that Nintendo will use the exact (or similar) style of modelling from Wind Waker.
It's perfectly plausable to have a Cel-shaded game's graphics really push the Wii to it's full potential (not that much more than a gamecube, as it goes, in case you didn't know) and look vastly different and unique.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:22 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

Once was enough, imo.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:43 AM
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Cel shading doesn't mean that Nintendo will use the exact (or similar) style of modelling from Wind Waker.
It's perfectly plausable to have a Cel-shaded game's graphics really push the Wii to it's full potential (not that much more than a gamecube, as it goes, in case you didn't know) and look vastly different and unique.
The wii is actually capable of producing graphics equivalent to twice the gamecube.
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:37 AM
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Re: A new Celda game

Short answer: No

Long answer: Yes, definitely! However, the next Zelda game should not be Cel-shaded, thank you very much. I feel it would be overdoing it for now - however, the one after that, I'd be glad.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:00 AM
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Re: A new Celda game

Perhaps. . . I liked WW's graphic style, though they should make an adult cell-Link if they make it cell-shaded.

And making the graphics more 'realistic' is meh. . . Wii is not an powerful console, even when compared to Gamecube. If you try to make a game 'realistic', it still looks weak compared to the games of other consoles.
However, you don't need so much power to make it 'cartoonish', and the graphics will look nice for years.

And I'll take drawing distance and a big world over superb graphics any day.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:47 AM
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Re: A new Celda game

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(For those that don't know, Celda = Cel-Shaded Zelda game)

I think that there should be another Celda style game on a console. Why is that? Well, for one thing, the art style is just beautiful, and on a newer console the cel-shading would look phenomenal. And just look at all of this Celda style artwork, depicting characters from TP, OoT, and many more of the games (along with some original characters):

croix22's deviantART gallery

And while you look, listen/watch this to get the feel of WW:

YouTube - Wind Waker Unplugged (<<< This guy does all of the instruments himself!)

And remember, just because it's Celda does not mean that there would be sailing, nor does it have to be a sequel to WW/PH. Just awesome graphics and more possibilities!
Although I agree with everything you said, I don't think there should be another cel shaded Zelda on a home console. Don't get me wrong, I loved TWW, the graphics especially. However, I can't really explain why, but I think that 'realistic style' Zeldas suit consoles and cel-shaded Zeldas suit handhelds (PH looks fantastic with cel-shading, as does the cartoony styled FS and TMC). I hope Nintendo keep making Celdas but on handhelds.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:05 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

As long as its not for a portable, I'm perfectly fine with it. One issue I had with PH, and still do have, is that people's heads look odd... why are they so flat/wide?

Also, as mentioned before it doesnt even have to be the same style. Look at twilight princess, I know thats not 100% cell shaded, but its code base is off of windwaker, so I wouldnt be surprised if some effects were in there and we just didnt notice.

@IkanaGeneral197 and Lurker: Just because its cell shaded doesnt mean it cant push the hardware. There can be plenty of ways to push hardware without realism, such as perhaps a better lighting engine. And if you want to see what it can pull off in terms of realism, look at the conduit when it comes out, not zelda.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:39 PM
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Re: A new Celda game

You all are underestimating wii's hardware. Look at Resident Evil 4; it was a gamecube game originally, but it was ported to wii, without any effort to improve the graphics, and yet it looked like an early XBOX 360 game.

The wii is twice as powerful as the gamecube, and given that hardware, the next Zelda game could very well look three times as realistic as TP, not to mention that, with the Quantum 3 graphics engine, wii is capable of producing many of the same effects that PS3/360 were thought to exclusively produce, but using fewer polys and processing power.

In short, wii is not a PS2, wii is not a Gamecube, and wii is not an XBOX. Wii is a WII give it some credit for God's sake!
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Re: A new Celda game

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You all are underestimating wii's hardware. Look at Resident Evil 4; it was a gamecube game originally, but it was ported to wii, without any effort to improve the graphics, and yet it looked like an early XBOX 360 game.

The wii is twice as powerful as the gamecube, and given that hardware, the next Zelda game could very well look three times as realistic as TP, not to mention that, with the Quantum 3 graphics engine, wii is capable of producing many of the same effects that PS3/360 were thought to exclusively produce, but using fewer polys and processing power.

In short, wii is not a PS2, wii is not a Gamecube, and wii is not an XBOX. Wii is a WII give it some credit for God's sake!
Yes, someone else agrees, as seen from The Conduit as well, a realistic Zelda is anything but impossible. Do I think Nintendo will be smart enough to make another for the Wii? Probably not.
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I'd much rather the next Zelda takes full advantage of wii's hardware. Cel-shaded is fine for DS, however.
It's a misnomer to state that cell-shaded graphics are necessarily non-intensive on the GPU.

Look at Street Fighter 4. That's cell-shaded, and it looks amazing. I'm sure a Celda for Wii would look much better than a GCN or DS Celda.

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Do I want it to be the next game? No, I would like to see them continue with the realism of TP, but it appears Nintendo like to make a pattern between Celda and the main series now.
The 'main series'? There have been 3 Zelda games done in a 'realistic' style. The other 11 games have been cartoonish, including LoZ, ALttP, and tWW, all of which are console games featuring Ganon/Ganondorf.

And yes, another realistic Zelda game will eventually look dated and ugly. As will every 'realistic' PC, 360, and PS3 game. An expressive art style will mask that aging, and create a 'timeless' look.
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Yes, someone else agrees, as seen from The Conduit as well, a realistic Zelda is anything but impossible. Do I think Nintendo will be smart enough to make another for the Wii? Probably not.
Yeah, I doubt Nintendo would do it. That would look TOO good (sarcasm)
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Yes I'm ready for a new one.
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Re: A new Celda game

Ever since Brawl was out, I've been wondering how a new Zelda with a graphical style like Toon Link (designed like the cartoony WW but "realistically" textured) would look.
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Re: A new Celda game

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Ever since Brawl was out, I've been wondering how a new Zelda with a graphical style like Toon Link (designed like the cartoony WW but "realistically" textured) would look.
it's cool, but i would prefer the Cel-Shaded graphics.
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