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Old 08-18-2008, 11:05 AM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

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That would make things WAY too easy. Darknuts are supposed to be challenging!
there not even challenging XD

but I don't want the arrows back they sucked,I never used them there useless
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:07 AM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

I miss the magic meter, but if it has no point at all, then we don't really need it.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:14 AM
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I want to see the bombos, quake, and either medallions from ALttP make a 3D appearance.
I loved the medallions I want to see them used again maybe a story about their origins
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:32 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

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there not even challenging
I thought they were, especially when you are pitted against like...five at once in the Cave of Ordeals.

To each, his own.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

The magic was fun it made the games zelda how many Zeldas have not had the magic meter and been the best thing that hapend to zelda
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

Why can't we have magic, but without the magic meter? Why do we have to limit out use of magic?
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:21 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

I say that we have a magic meter, but have to find different Spell Scrolls to get spells as well as special quests to restore the magic of the Bombos, Quake and Ether Medallions. Each quest would occur at different points, as well as the obtaining of each spell scroll, but you'd need every spell in the game to even get to the Final Boss.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:32 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

i agree with sheikahsage. i dont think we need a magic meter. they are outdated, boring and are the kind of thing that will hold future zeldas back

that is why i think magic should take on a new role within the gameplay
it can be part of puzzles and all kinds of things

also id want an unobtrisive way of using magic and showing magic level (if it was shown)
like somehow through the partner character
i think a good partner character would be the perfect tool for using magic
and they and their magic could be part of all kinds of puzzles

also, i assume that the partner would be upgraded over the course of the game
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

The magic meter only made Zelda a lot more fun to escape from that reality feeling. Of course Link can run for miles without stopping or using items that require more than just a one man strength.

But having a magic meter only makes the boring more fun. Nintendo adds in more elements such as the magic arrows and such, but they aren't important items to the game (and this does not include the light arrow by all means).

I would say to leave it out. And it is annoying enough to replenish it by finding thoes green bottles everywhere.

I'm glad TP took it out of the game.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:04 AM
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The magic meter only made Zelda a lot more fun to escape from that reality feeling. Of course Link can run for miles without stopping or using items that require more than just a one man strength.

But having a magic meter only makes the boring more fun. Nintendo adds in more elements such as the magic arrows and such, but they aren't important items to the game (and this does not include the light arrow by all means).

I would say to leave it out. And it is annoying enough to replenish it by finding thoes green bottles everywhere.

I'm glad TP took it out of the game.
WHAT?
sorry, you started saying how great it was, then said you dont want it?
i dont want it anyway though
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:14 AM
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The magic meter only made Zelda a lot more fun to escape from that reality feeling. Of course Link can run for miles without stopping or using items that require more than just a one man strength.

But having a magic meter only makes the boring more fun. Nintendo adds in more elements such as the magic arrows and such, but they aren't important items to the game (and this does not include the light arrow by all means).

I would say to leave it out. And it is annoying enough to replenish it by finding thoes green bottles everywhere.

I'm glad TP took it out of the game.
I see what you're saying but perhaps they could just trim down on the magic items rather than abolish it. Perhaps you could get a shorter meter so you'd have to be careful with your shots.

Maybe have a boss where you weren't constantly refreshed with whatever you need...
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:14 AM
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Maybe have a boss where you weren't constantly refreshed with whatever you need...
This might make it harder for "extreme casual gamers", I mean, you don't HAVE to touch those pots. ;p

I agree with your other idea, though.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:19 AM
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I see what you're saying but perhaps they could just trim down on the magic items rather than abolish it. Perhaps you could get a shorter meter so you'd have to be careful with your shots.

Maybe have a boss where you weren't constantly refreshed with whatever you need...
Actually I like this idea. I dislike the fact that you had this massive bar and filling it up to the brim was so easy that you could do it in your sleep. I just made everything too easy to do.

A half size bar for the max would be the best option. Therefore, you would have to be careful with the amount of energy that you consume.
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:12 AM
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no
just no magic bar
they are so old and clumsy
we just need some other way of 'doing' magic
in fact id rather there were magic items than a magic bar
magic the way it is used in most games (including zelda) sucks
i want it to be intergrated in to the world and the everyday gameplay
such as through the 'partner'
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:46 AM
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no
just no magic bar
they are so old and clumsy
we just need some other way of 'doing' magic
in fact id rather there were magic items than a magic bar
magic the way it is used in most games (including zelda) sucks
i want it to be intergrated in to the world and the everyday gameplay
such as through the 'partner'
I like the way that they did Diablo 2's magic. It was blue and was replenished by drinking blue bottles, but you had to rely on magic so much in the game that having that bar would just be impossible.

Hmmm... I have an idea. Link should be able to do his special sword techniques (if not better) by using a bit of his magic. It could work and it would make everything very interesting and more fun.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

In my opinion:
A. Keep the magic bar.
B. Make items use more magic.
C. Make magic items that are actually needed! This way, magic is actually used and there aren't as many people annoyed by getting all the green pots. For example, the Goron and Zora forms in MM used quite a bit of magic, so you were happy to get it.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:53 PM
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that is why i think magic should take on a new role within the gameplay
it can be part of puzzles and all kinds of things
Thats the one thing I don't like. Aside from the magic arrows and the medallions, all the magic abilities have no offencive ability. They are either used only for puzzles or defence. I want really over the top magic, like being able to call down meteors, telekinetically throw enemies 100 yards, or throw lighting from your hands, not a spell whose only perpose seems to be to light tourches.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:47 PM
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Thats the one thing I don't like. Aside from the magic arrows and the medallions, all the magic abilities have no offencive ability. They are either used only for puzzles or defence. I want really over the top magic, like being able to call down meteors, telekinetically throw enemies 100 yards, or throw lighting from your hands, not a spell whose only perpose seems to be to light tourches.
That is something I would definately like to see in future. However, it would just make Link more of an insane wizard than the average herioc swordsman of Hyrule.

I would say the ability to use magic to make massive offensive attacks with the use of his sword. He would be able to summon magic from his blade to kill hundreds of enemies gaining on him and also, from what you have stated, also summoning elements to destroy all of what it touches.

Magic in Zelda has been nothing but a breeze.

They need to put more into it if they were to bring back the magic meter.
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:51 PM
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That is something I would definately like to see in future. However, it would just make Link more of an insane wizard than the average herioc swordsman of Hyrule.
Are you worried that magic would ruin his image as an everyday guy turned hero, or that having insanly badass magic will discourage players from useing the sword? Sorry if I'm not getting it, but your comment is kinda hard to decern.

To the first, if all the coolest of magic is obtained later in the game, then it would make sence storyline wise.

To the second, they could design the game in a way that would encourage you to use both weapons and magic together. Lets take the lighting throwing spell for example. You could use it by itself for an attack that covers a broad area, but doesn't do much damage, or you can electrify the blade of your sword for a powerful focused strike.

By the way, this is the effect I'm going for with the magic.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:30 PM
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Re: BRING BACK THE MAGIC METER

every one has these good ideas for powerful magic, but i agree with those who say it would make the game too easy. But how about having a restriction on those items? Like they can ONLY be used in hyrule field, in areas where u mainly just travel and no game story line related stuff really happens? Everyone likes riding around on epona and fighting the green dudes on boars every once in a while. Why no add some magic to keep that interesting?
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