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Old 08-12-2008, 02:16 PM
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Player 2 with a smaller role.

A multiplayer Zelda usually doesn't sound like a good idea. It might to some people but not so much to me. I believe that this might be because all players would have the exact same abilities and would have to work together to win. So why not have there be up to two players with the 2nd player having a smaller role? It would be like playing as Tails in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or the 2nd cursor in Super Mario Galaxy. P1 doesn't depend on P2, but P2 helps anyway.

Now how can this work in a Zelda game? This is my idea: Link is an adult and he has a younger brother that he carries on his back for some reason. This younger brother has a slingshot and an unlimited supply of seeds that he can shoot at enemies. These seeds would do a small amount of damage. The screen would be divided into two halves. The top half would be like normal 3-D Zelda game and the bottom half would be a 1st person view of what the younger brother is seeing. Player 2 would aim (probably with a Wii remote) at the screen to shoot. If the younger brother gets hit, Link will take the damage.

If you have a younger sibling who thinks that Zelda is too tough but still wants to play, this game may be for you. And if you don't, then you can still play alone if you want. Anyone else got any ideas for a game like this?
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

Or, you could connect a DS, and it isn't a brother, but a mysterious person who turns up wherever you are and gets on your back to shoot people with a slingshot, and it shows it on one DS screen and options on the other (maybe the touch screen).

It'd be like a Tingle Tuner that has some use.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

Like in Super Mario Galaxy, you mean?
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:04 PM
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Or, you could connect a DS, and it isn't a brother, but a mysterious person who turns up wherever you are and gets on your back to shoot people with a slingshot, and it shows it on one DS screen and options on the other (maybe the touch screen).

It'd be like a Tingle Tuner that has some use.
That would be cool but for that you'd need to have a DS. A DS can't use Wii graphics and Nintendo wouldn't dumb down a games graphics for that reason. A mysterious person would be too creepy in my opinion. Still, these are good ideas.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

the DS could have DS-capable graphics, but you wouldn't have to change anything on the wii part.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:37 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

lol this reminds me so much of one of my fanfics! Link has to carry his partner (a small sheika girl that behaves much like Midna) and she shoots stuff at the enemies
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:46 AM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

no thanks
the whole little brother riding on his back sounds weird
not in a sexual way or anything
just weird
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:47 AM
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lol this reminds me so much of one of my fanfics! Link has to carry his partner (a small sheika girl that behaves much like Midna) and she shoots stuff at the enemies
Makes you think. A shika girl would be pretty cool too.

Another possible partner for Link would be a ghost fighter. The ghost wouldn't be able to get hurt but his attacks wouldn't do much damage either.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

the second person could also be used in puzzle solving ( like the Kafei quest in MM )
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:41 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

What if there was a short green Hylian with white hair who rode on Link's back while training him? "Strong with the triforce young Link is." lol
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

Does he have to ride on his back. why not a spirit or something that hovers by you and helps?
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:34 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

Nah, just go for full on multiplayer. Vs or Co op.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

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no thanks
the whole little brother riding on his back sounds weird
not in a sexual way or anything
just weird
LOL

I think asking for multiplayer zelda like that would mess up the storyline too much unless it's a damn good reason (four swords comes to mind)
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:39 AM
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Does he have to ride on his back. why not a spirit or something that hovers by you and helps?
That could be cool.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:44 PM
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A multiplayer Zelda usually doesn't sound like a good idea. It might to some people but not so much to me. I believe that this might be because all players would have the exact same abilities and would have to work together to win. So why not have there be up to two players with the 2nd player having a smaller role? It would be like playing as Tails in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or the 2nd cursor in Super Mario Galaxy. P1 doesn't depend on P2, but P2 helps anyway.

Now how can this work in a Zelda game? This is my idea: Link is an adult and he has a younger brother that he carries on his back for some reason. This younger brother has a slingshot and an unlimited supply of seeds that he can shoot at enemies. These seeds would do a small amount of damage. The screen would be divided into two halves. The top half would be like normal 3-D Zelda game and the bottom half would be a 1st person view of what the younger brother is seeing. Player 2 would aim (probably with a Wii remote) at the screen to shoot. If the younger brother gets hit, Link will take the damage.

If you have a younger sibling who thinks that Zelda is too tough but still wants to play, this game may be for you. And if you don't, then you can still play alone if you want. Anyone else got any ideas for a game like this?
I like this entire idea. The Wii was supposedly named after "we", and yet most games are pretty much single player affairs (I could also point out the poor online play here, but that is somthing for another day). So, yeah, I like the idea that other players coud just hop right in. It likens to co-op games where a 2nd player just had to press Start and they could drop right in.

It would be hard to implant this in Zelda, but what you describe would work very well. The brother thing is a little odd, but having a toddler with a sligshot on your back in some ways actually fits in with style of Zelda, when you picture it. Might be seen as a form of child abuse to leave him behind whenever a 2nd player isn't there, however

I also respect what you have to say about younger siblings playing but finding it too hard. Me and my 7 year olf brother play Mario Galaxy together somtimes, and it is nice having that 2nd player imput where I can help him out of the harder levels.
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:14 AM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

XD I want Zelda online multiplayer thats really good!
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:55 AM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

seriously
i dont want a toddler on my back EVER
i dont even want people to have the otion of having a toddler on their back
no offence, but there is zelda, then theres just plain RETARDED
i just hate the whole concept
the whole world would have to be built around a retarded gimicky facet of the game that most people (i hope) will not use

id much rather if people could take control of the 'partner'
and when nobody was controling it, it would be ai like normal
maybe link normally has limited control over it
either way, the colosseum is a much better way of implementing multiplayer
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:15 AM
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seriously
i dont want a toddler on my back EVER
Maybe Link's brother could be like seven years old.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

Maybe oot adult link could get caught in a time warp and turn up in kokori forrest at his house and meet him self as a child and they could go off and fight the perils of Hyrule together, because obviously child link will be weaker and if he did something it would affect adult link like if his hand was chopped off or something
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: Player 2 with a smaller role.

How about nothing realated to OoT!!!
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