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Old 07-17-2008, 06:56 PM
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Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

E3 2008: Nintendo Making Next Zelda Accessible for Non-gamers, Says Miyamoto
^ Thats the headline of the article. I think i will cry...

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News: E3 2008: Nintendo Making Next Zelda Accessible for Non-gamers, Says Miyamoto ::: Kombo.com - Video Games, News, Zelda, Halo 3, Grand Theft Auto, Mario, Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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Old 07-17-2008, 07:08 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

I think I just puked in my mouth a little.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:13 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

whats so wrong with a more accesable zelda game? they're all easy anyway >>
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:20 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

I am going to be open minded here, I don't think we are going to going to get a watered down version of Zelda. I think Miyamoto wants to make it easy to pick up and play while at the same time not water down the expeirence though. Of course thats just me.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:20 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

Nice.

As long as it's more accessible to non-Zelda gamers but still can retain a sense of what we've come to know as Zelda, then I'm all for it. Makes me think of games like A Link to the Past, and Link's Awakening, when things were so much easier.

A think a simpler Zelda in this day and age, especially after Twilight Princess, is something that Nintendo needs to do. (Although please take note that simple and obnoxiously easy are not the same thing. The Legend of Zelda was simple, but by no means easy.)
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:33 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

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In terms of difficulty, I want another AoL.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

This is total bull-****! Non-gamers? If they are non gamers why are they playing video games!?!?!?!? Zelda should stay just the way it is: an adventurous-puzzle-filled-RPG. That's the way it always has been that's the way it should always be!
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I think Miyamoto wants to make it easy to pick up and play
Make it easy to pick up and play?? It already is easy to pick up and play!! My 6-year-old cousin just picked up a controller and started playing Monday night, and he's already an adult and had beaten the Fire Temple!! Without my help!!

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...how to make it accessible for new gamers to pick up and play and enjoy just as hardcore gamers have...the original Legend of Zelda, as well as the much-beloved A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening, are pretty easy to pick up and play, but also have their fair share of depth and challenges
Then why don't newcomers go back and play the old games? They can go back and get used to it then come and try to play these! They're gonna make so that us people who like it being at least somewhat difficult are gonna whizz right through it and possibly on it!

If you ask me Miyamoto getting tired of the same old run around get a horse, sheild, sword, and 3 pieces of whatever and going and beating the final boss.

Change is good...just not for Zelda!!!
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:47 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

i think they should try and make the games like they used to be. they were fun and challenging. though i think they could tone down the difficulty level just a bit
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:51 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

This sucks.............NO ITEMS!!......................NO CONTOLS THAT MAKE YOU THINK!!!!!!....................................... ......NO ZELDA!!!!!!
THIS SUCKS
THIS SUCKS
THIS SUCKS
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AAAAAAAAAAAA THIS MEANS LIFE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-17-2008, 07:54 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

Calm down, he didn't say he was making it casual or too easy. He just said he wants to make more accessible. Nothing wrong with that, and I doubt Miyamoto would water down his own creation. He even says he wants the hardcore to have as much fun as newbies, so maybe he means he'll make the controls more natural, so non-gamers can learn quickly.

Miyamoto has been able to make easy to pick up games with hard challenges. The old Mario sidescrollers are a good example. Their controls weren't complex, but the games got harder as you got further.

The Zelda series needs a change. The Wii seems perfect for it, and now that we are getting true 1:1 controls, there's plenty of room for accessibility and challenge.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

I will also keep an open mind, because similar ideas were going around when WW came around, IIRC.
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This sucks.............NO ITEMS!!......................NO CONTOLS THAT MAKE YOU THINK!!!!!!....................................... ......NO ZELDA!!!!!!
THIS SUCKS
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THIS SUCKS
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AAAAAAAAAAAA THIS MEANS LIFE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-17-2008, 08:10 PM
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Make it easy to pick up and play?? It already is easy to pick up and play!! My 6-year-old cousin just picked up a controller and started playing Monday night, and he's already an adult and had beaten the Fire Temple!! Without my help!!
Well thats just one person, and by the sound of it he's already a solid gamer.
Bear in mind that "easy to pick up and play" and easy difficulty are two different things. Look at Smash Bros. simple gameplay yes? but the fights can get intense.


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Then why don't newcomers go back and play the old games? They can go back and get used to it then come and try to play these! They're gonna make so that us people who like it being at least somewhat difficult are gonna whizz right through it and possibly on it!
I don't think a newcomer would be willing to track down all of the old games. (I know there is the VC but thats up to them entirely or what if they have no internet?) In this day and age people always want the latest and greatest. Haveing said that, I think if they play a future Zelda and like it, prehaps they will go and discover the older games' glory.
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: Oh no! Our WORST nightmare has come true! Zelda is... CASUAL!!!!

Haha. Can you guys not read? He wants the controls to be more accessible. Read the whole article. Shig never used the word "casual". He wants to return to the old style of play.
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:14 PM
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This is total bull-****! Non-gamers? If they are non gamers why are they playing video games!?!?!?!? Zelda should stay just the way it is: an adventurous-puzzle-filled-RPG. That's the way it always has been that's the way it should always be!
Nobody says that that's going to change. He just said that he wants it to be more accessible. Meaning that both a casual and a hardcore gamer can have a good experience. Not that the experience for the casual is more important than the hardcore experience, but that they should be equal, and I can't say that I disagree. Some of the flagship franchises have become such "core" titles that many people are probably intimidated by their scope, whereas this will level the playing field and give everyone a good experience. What's so bad about that?

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Then why don't newcomers go back and play the old games? They can go back and get used to it then come and try to play these! They're gonna make so that us people who like it being at least somewhat difficult are gonna whizz right through it and possibly on it!
Somewhat difficult? What Zelda have you been playing? Zelda hasn't been even close to difficult since LA. Everything from OoT onward has been ridiculously easy, but we all play them nonetheless.

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If you ask me Miyamoto getting tired of the same old run around get a horse, sheild, sword, and 3 pieces of whatever and going and beating the final boss.
And you're not?! Good lord, I certainly am.

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Change is good...just not for Zelda!!!
Well, have fun playing your OoT clones until kingdom come then.

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This sucks.............NO ITEMS!!......................NO CONTOLS THAT MAKE YOU THINK!!!!!!....................................... ......NO ZELDA!!!!!!
THIS SUCKS
THIS SUCKS
THIS SUCKS
THIS SUCKS


AAAAAAAAAAAA THIS MEANS LIFE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!

LiFe Is OvEr!!!!!!!

OVER!OvEr!over!
Wow. Your life can't be that much if a simple change to a video game makes you think its over.
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