Idea for the next Zelda game i just made up, your thoughts?

Originally Posted by Zeldasupergamer

After we make this game what are u doing with the idea James ?
is this just for fun?
will we make a sequel? will we make money?

Originally Posted by Adam_148

we're making this game? i thought it was a for fun kind of thing, like make up ideas, and pray that Nintendo sees the ideas and puts them into practice. I don't think we'd be able to get the advanced AI, you kind of need to own a games company to do that.

yeah i thought it was just for fun. ha well we could try to work on a sequel once this one is all said and done. but no we will not be making money... unless by some bizarre chance nintendo does make it into a game it wont happen

Originally Posted by michael12268

wow that is pretty good. i like the idea of the vivala triforce thingy. though its kinda sad that ilia dies. but i also think its a good idea oh well. so wait are the oni vila and alis thing what are they?

Illia was annoying and dumb i hated her LONG LIVE ZELDA
who is link's gf in this game

Originally Posted by Adam_148

we're making this game? i thought it was a for fun kind of thing, like make up ideas, and pray that Nintendo sees the ideas and puts them into practice. I don't think we'd be able to get the advanced AI, you kind of need to own a games company to do that.

Adam_148 you thought right this is really just a for fun idea, and i was just hoping nintendo saw them, i never once said that I would make it, thats just absurd. we arent making a game, we're just making an idea. I've said this many times yet you do not get it zeldasupergamer. Also if we DID ever accomplish to give the idea to nintendo i would give it for free just so that it could be made.

Originally Posted by Zeldasupergamer

who is link's gf in this game

...I thought i said id like to hold off on the ideas for awhile until post my own. Can you please just let the forum rest for a while so that i can do this? I have finals this week for crying out loud.

Edit: im pretty sure Link has never had a girlfriend either

Originally Posted by Aeffles

Yeah, he was also dead at the end of LoZ, ALttP, OoT, WW, and a few others. Check your facts first.

He was not dead at the end of OoT, in the end of OoT he was sealed away, not killed!

Btw, the idea sounds great so far, I'll comment more later.

I think Nintendo should just make a remake or Ocarina of Time, get updated with it's graphics make citys and villages bigger e.g goron city. Also they should go old school, collect triforce shards. it would be awesome also the bosses should be changed so you could smack the crap out of there asses more.

Okay I read through the whole Idea and I have a suggestion to include Vaati and Majora!

All right, with all respect to your Oni Link story I worked up something with Majora's Mask, Vaati(in lesser grade) and the Picori(In even lesser grade). It's like this:

As we all know there existed an tribe which created the Majora's Mask, but for some reason they dissappeared for some unknown reason(mabye it's because that Majora went wild and slaughtered them, mabye they were the people who where banished to the twilight realm(the twili) for creating Majora's Mask and the shadow masks/things/whatever they're called, something that really dosen't seem to unlogical to me(that they created the MM i mean) seing as they already created masks) something that really dosen't matter(in my opinion anyway). Now after the tribe was gone Majora's Mask took a human like kid shape(or he/she was a humanoid creature to begin with) and being a kid(refering to MM's form on the moon) it felt lonely, therefore the mask created four other masks kids(guess which masks)(or mabye they were already created by the tribe that created MM) to play with but they didn't like the MM and didn't want to play with him/her so it turned them to simple masks and took them and went to find a friend. Then when the Mask comes to the captial of Vivial(or whatever it gets called) he meets Oni and becomes friends with Oni. This gives reason to where Oni learned the dark magic, he learned it from his friend Majora's Mask who slowely turned him more and more evil. Now after the two brothers had sealed Oni, Majora's Mask feels the dissappearance of Oni's magic/lifeforce/w/e and teleports(or something) to the throne room where MM walks to the mask and picks it up saying something about losing it's only friend. Then MM assaults the two brothers because of Oni's death, but it soon got overpowered and sealed up in the same way as Oni, and all it was caring became hidden inside the mask. After that the two brothers understand who tainted their brother and the opens a dimensional door and sends the mask to the world of Termina. this would explain things like, why did MM have the Fierce Deity mask and why did it give it to you, it was because it realised that Oni would return just has he/she had done when Skull Kid weared the MM.

Now for Vaati: Being the power hungry minish he i, Vaati constantly search for new powers he can use to take over the world without getting defeated by Link, then he learns about the MM(anyone can 2 + 2 = 1?). He tracks down the Mask to the happy salesman and from there to Vivial(or w/e it is called), but when he finds it, it is, to Vaati's disapointment, just a mask(remember the powers dissappeared from the mask at the an of MM). But he knows a spell that could make the powers return to the mask and set out to get all he needs to do it.

This story about Vaati and the MM gets told in a cutscene, told by none other then Ezlo and the minish, who also tells you about the four swords, minish cap and the light force(the three gifts to Hylians), where Vaati already posses two of the gifts(mostely power of the light force and the minish cap), while the last one is in Hyrule. With nothing to counter Vaati's dark magic, Ezlo decides to create a new artifact to you, the Minish(name can be changed) Armour! The minish also tells you that this(Vivial/w/e) is their original dimension(just for notes sake).

After some dungeons and stuff, Link confrontes Vaati in the middle of the "retrival" ritual, he decides that he'll buy time by fighting you. During the match he keeps on consentrating on the ritual and when you have defeated him the ritual is finnished and he equips the MM, but having underestimated the MM's control powers Vaati have to fight the MM mentally and in the end, MM absorbs Vaati's powers and he disappears into the mask. Then the MM takes a humanoid shape(which kinda look like Vaati) and tells Link he don't bother fighting insects and is going to meet his old friend Oni, therefore he creates a portal to Oni and leaves.

Later before the final Oni fight you would have to fight MM and when MM is defeated he ask Oni to please help him, instead Oni transform MM to a sword and you now will engage the final battle against Oni in a swords man vs swords man where both got two swords.

So what do you think?

Ohh yeah, the Picori can do something else as well, just don't know what...

Originally Posted by B-E-T-A

He was not dead at the end of OoT, in the end of OoT he was sealed away, not killed!

Btw, the idea sounds great so far, I'll comment more later.

I stand corrected, but still...

I have an idea for the beginning of the game.

Link is out walking through the woods, when he hears a strange noise.He starts to follow it and soon becomes lost. He decides he has no choice but to follow the noise, so he continues onward.

Eventually he comes to a huge slab laying upon the ground. He walks closer to try and make out the writing that covers it, but then-
he falls through the ground!

He gets knocked out, and wakes up in a kind of alter. He sees a coffin lying before him- light spills from the hole in the ceiling onto it. He walks closer, but as he approaches it, he hears a growl.

He turns to see the golden wolf from TP. It turns and runs through a dark corridor. Link follows close behind. Eventually the wolf reaches the end of the path and dissapears. Link looks around, confused, then sees hanging on the wall OOT Link's old tunic and shield.

He recognizes the sacred emblem on the shield and the green forest tunic, and puts them on. He feels a strange presence all about him, and returns to the coffin. On the top of the coffin he sees the symbol of the triforce. The piece of courage is glowing, then flies through the air and hits him in the chest. He flies backward, dazed, and sees the golden wolf appoach him...

You then enter a dream sequence where the 'Ghost' (presence) of OOT Link begins to explain all that is going on, you learn about the gods, your quest, etc. etc.

The tomb of OOT LInk, in the Lost Woods, the link from Termina to Hyrule. Pretty catchy, huh?

Thus begins your quest...

Think its any good?

Originally Posted by Giggoron

I have an idea for the beginning of the game.

Link is out walking through the woods, when he hears a strange noise.He starts to follow it and soon becomes lost. He decides he has no choice but to follow the noise, so he continues onward.

Eventually he comes to a huge slab laying upon the ground. He walks closer to try and make out the writing that covers it, but then-
he falls through the ground!

He gets knocked out, and wakes up in a kind of alter. He sees a coffin lying before him- light spills from the hole in the ceiling onto it. He walks closer, but as he approaches it, he hears a growl.

He turns to see the golden wolf from TP. It turns and runs through a dark corridor. Link follows close behind. Eventually the wolf reaches the end of the path and dissapears. Link looks around, confused, then sees hanging on the wall OOT Link's old tunic and shield.

He recognizes the sacred emblem on the shield and the green forest tunic, and puts them on. He feels a strange presence all about him, and returns to the coffin. On the top of the coffin he sees the symbol of the triforce. The piece of courage is glowing, then flies through the air and hits him in the chest. He flies backward, dazed, and sees the golden wolf appoach him...

You then enter a dream sequence where the 'Ghost' (presence) of OOT Link begins to explain all that is going on, you learn about the gods, your quest, etc. etc.

The tomb of OOT LInk, in the Lost Woods, the link from Termina to Hyrule. Pretty catchy, huh?

Thus begins your quest...

Think its any good?

Nooo....the game is supose to be mysterious(in the beginning anyway) but with your intro you explain everything at once and ruins the mysterious part...

I know, I know... But how do you suppose to explain it?

Maybe cross out the part with the 'Dream Sequence?'

Hmph....

I don't really want it to be TP Link though, because he has already had his run. A new legend needs to be born, or else new towns and bigger cities (castle town) would seem out of place with those in the old game.

Maybe this could take place while he is on his way to the castle to meet with Zelda or something. It would explain how he got the tunic, and that he was 'chosen,' but would still leave room for the whole sequence to be truly explained. Maybe later on you would find out it was actually the tomb of another Link from a different game, maybe TP Link.

Sounds more reasonable. They would explain the 'Golden Wolf' and stuff later on.

That story sounds really interesting
you have good mind

Originally Posted by B-E-T-A

Okay I read through the whole Idea and I have a suggestion to include Vaati and Majora!

All right, with all respect to your Oni Link story I worked up something with Majora's Mask, Vaati(in lesser grade) and the Picori(In even lesser grade). It's like this:

As we all know there existed an tribe which created the Majora's Mask, but for some reason they dissappeared for some unknown reason(mabye it's because that Majora went wild and slaughtered them, mabye they were the people who where banished to the twilight realm(the twili) for creating Majora's Mask and the shadow masks/things/whatever they're called, something that really dosen't seem to unlogical to me(that they created the MM i mean) seing as they already created masks) something that really dosen't matter(in my opinion anyway). Now after the tribe was gone Majora's Mask took a human like kid shape(or he/she was a humanoid creature to begin with) and being a kid(refering to MM's form on the moon) it felt lonely, therefore the mask created four other masks kids(guess which masks)(or mabye they were already created by the tribe that created MM) to play with but they didn't like the MM and didn't want to play with him/her so it turned them to simple masks and took them and went to find a friend. Then when the Mask comes to the captial of Vivial(or whatever it gets called) he meets Oni and becomes friends with Oni. This gives reason to where Oni learned the dark magic, he learned it from his friend Majora's Mask who slowely turned him more and more evil. Now after the two brothers had sealed Oni, Majora's Mask feels the dissappearance of Oni's magic/lifeforce/w/e and teleports(or something) to the throne room where MM walks to the mask and picks it up saying something about losing it's only friend. Then MM assaults the two brothers because of Oni's death, but it soon got overpowered and sealed up in the same way as Oni, and all it was caring became hidden inside the mask. After that the two brothers understand who tainted their brother and the opens a dimensional door and sends the mask to the world of Termina. this would explain things like, why did MM have the Fierce Deity mask and why did it give it to you, it was because it realised that Oni would return just has he/she had done when Skull Kid weared the MM.

Very very good, I like how you integrated Majora so that you feel like oni was corrupted and that on the inside he is a kind person. The only things I would like to mention is that:

1. Vila is a girl, so Oni has a brother and a sister.
2. Its Vivala
3. Oni didnt die, he was just sealed in the fierce deity's mask.

Also an idea for that would be that Majora should have a humanoid form during this time, I dont know how but i would like to see her being something other than a mask (it is a LONG time before Oot when Oni is a child)

Now for Vaati: Being the power hungry minish he i, Vaati constantly search for new powers he can use to take over the world without getting defeated by Link, then he learns about the MM(anyone can 2 + 2 = 1?). He tracks down the Mask to the happy salesman and from there to Vivial(or w/e it is called), but when he finds it, it is, to Vaati's disapointment, just a mask(remember the powers dissappeared from the mask at the an of MM). But he knows a spell that could make the powers return to the mask and set out to get all he needs to do it.

Very good, many people would like to see Vaati in a 3d Zelda

This story about Vaati and the MM gets told in a cutscene, told by none other then Ezlo and the minish, who also tells you about the four swords, minish cap and the light force(the three gifts to Hylians), where Vaati already posses two of the gifts(mostely power of the light force and the minish cap), while the last one is in Hyrule. With nothing to counter Vaati's dark magic, Ezlo decides to create a new artifact to you, the Minish(name can be changed) Armour! The minish also tells you that this(Vivial/w/e) is their original dimension(just for notes sake).

After some dungeons and stuff, Link confrontes Vaati in the middle of the "retrival" ritual, he decides that he'll buy time by fighting you. During the match he keeps on consentrating on the ritual and when you have defeated him the ritual is finnished and he equips the MM, but having underestimated the MM's control powers Vaati have to fight the MM mentally and in the end, MM absorbs Vaati's powers and he disappears into the mask. Then the MM takes a humanoid shape(which kinda look like Vaati) and tells Link he don't bother fighting insects and is going to meet his old friend Oni, therefore he creates a portal to Oni and leaves.

The only thing in this part of your idea that i cant use is the portal to oni thing, because Oni is supposed to be living in Link's soul during the course of this link's life, otherwise i enjoyed reading it, very groundbreaking stuff you have there

Later before the final Oni fight you would have to fight MM and when MM is defeated he ask Oni to please help him, instead Oni transform MM to a sword and you now will engage the final battle against Oni in a swords man vs swords man where both got two swords.

So what do you think?

Ohh yeah, the Picori can do something else as well, just don't know what...

If I decide to use Majora (which after reading this its a 80 percent chance that I will use this idea of yours, thank you =D) this fight would be even better than what i had in mind before with the boss battle with Oni. And at the end of this Oni should see his flaws and how Majora tricked him as he dies, and Vila and Alis tell Oni that they forgive him.

Originally Posted by Giggoron

I know, I know... But how do you suppose to explain it?

Maybe cross out the part with the 'Dream Sequence?'

Hmph....

I don't really want it to be TP Link though, because he has already had his run. A new legend needs to be born, or else new towns and bigger cities (castle town) would seem out of place with those in the old game.

Maybe this could take place while he is on his way to the castle to meet with Zelda or something. It would explain how he got the tunic, and that he was 'chosen,' but would still leave room for the whole sequence to be truly explained. Maybe later on you would find out it was actually the tomb of another Link from a different game, maybe TP Link.

Sounds more reasonable. They would explain the 'Golden Wolf' and stuff later on.

Well i just wanted to use TP link because hes the link that I like the best. And just because I'm using him doesnt mean that everything (hardly anything for that matter) from TP would return in this one. Also this doesnt take place in hyrule or termina, they are just mentioned, so the new towns and bigger cities are very fitting especially for Vivala since its a different world and it is further in time from the Hyrule of TP, so really it can be steampunk style so that the bigger cities can work.



Edit: Since I mentioned it, how would you all feel if i made the description of Vivala be steampunk? (look steampunk up on wikipedia if you dont know what i mean)

Wow, i go away for the long weekend and this happens. Some of my thoughts.

1. The triforce is non-existant in this land, but it has equivilant to it that im working on right now.

2. FD was reincarnated in Link after the mask somehow gets destroyed in termina, which released his soul. This allowed FD (named Oni for now) to reincarnate in Link when Link was born, and he's been aging with link by hiding inside Link's soul. The triforce of courage however keeps Oni supressed in Link, but when Link enters Vivala the triforce of courage becomes just an inanimate object because now that the triforce was split between the two universes and their ties to eachother become severed. This allows Oni to begin to emerge in Link and eventually forces himself from Link's soul and he has his own body. Thats about how much I have so far.

How 'bout it you see Link for MM with the happy mask salesman. he realizes that the feirce dietys mask and MM need to be destroyed. He tells you of the location of a song to do so. Just then, Oni's father apears to stop his son's death. (i picture him as a normal looking person whos shadow can become a goliath about three times as big as others you may face). This turns out to be a dream and when you wake up, you go looking for the song to destroy the masks, for you can feel that they are still alive. how should MM play into this? Should the father take the Mask for the son, or should the Happy Mask Guy take it and run?

Thats a great idea, i meant he sheikah are supposed to be gaurdians anyway, so yes perhaps Alis and Vila gave the sheikah the responsiblity to ensure that Oni didnt return, since Alis and Vila can only live so long since they are mortal.
And as a back up (the sheikah are unaware of this until link accidentally discovers a lost letter from the two) Alis and Vila attached their souls to the two swords mentioned earlier so that if the sheikah failed in their ritual of sealing Oni once again, their spirits could come back inside the swords, giving the weapons god-like power in order for a worthy hero to combat Oni. And you can obviously guess who that hero is.

The Redheads job was to seek out link for his Destiny was to fufil the destruction of Oni at the request of Alis and Vila. Midna finds him and she tells him about how link is looking for a song that destroys masks. He realizes to learn that song you need the 3or4 tribal artifacts to enter the land of the ancient tribes that created MM. They are held by the Deku, Goron, Zora and Sheikah. ( to get the Sheikah one you must train with them over the course of the other three, and eventually get a *jump command or a 2 quick daggers for finishing off an opponent when they are weal enough* Also, about the swords: What if you can dual wield them as Katanas or Fuse them together and use a 2-handed sword?

Thats a great idea, i meant he sheikah are supposed to be gaurdians anyway, so yes perhaps Alis and Vila gave the sheikah the responsiblity to ensure that Oni didnt return, since Alis and Vila can only live so long since they are mortal.
And as a back up (the sheikah are unaware of this until link accidentally discovers a lost letter from the two) Alis and Vila attached their souls to the two swords mentioned earlier so that if the sheikah failed in their ritual of sealing Oni once again, their spirits could come back inside the swords, giving the weapons god-like power in order for a worthy hero to combat Oni. And you can obviously guess who that hero is.

The wolf can be the Redheads third form as he was looking constanly for the right hero to fufill the destruction of Oni.

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