Idea for the next Zelda game i just made up, your thoughts?

Originally Posted by michael12268

eh well i think its a little bit much but if it was part of like a cutscene or something maybe not. i dont know its like a split liking and disliking. you know what i mean? maybe just make part of it like a cutscene and battle switching between the two or something

yeah that could work, besides i think it would take WAY too long to fight your way to the first goliath enemy, so i think a short epic cutscene of link fighting to the center would work, and Link reaches the middle THEN you take control of him and/or "swordsman guy" and fight the army. Now remember I only want this battle to be epic because it only happens once (and you should have the option to replay it), and why? ITS AT THE CLIMAX OF THE STORY THATS WHY!

Some more ideas for the army battle:

The small spawn would really be just easy but fun to fight enemies to just slash and send flying away, the Goliaths and darknuts would be the challenges. Some Goliaths you should also be able to just swordfight with, and some could fly and come down at you like eagles ready to swipe up prey. With the flying ones you can use the reaction button to dodge the talons, and if you press and hold both triggers immediately after you dodge you'll grab onto the talons and you do the same strategy that i posted before, you can either kill it and ride it down to the ground then leap off, or use the whip to lasso it and take control of it, allowing you to take control of them and fly around, letting the Goliath breathe fire upon the spawn army.

Hmm what else, oh! Some goliaths will be smaller and speedy (about the size of the TP ganon boss), acting like rabid wolves on steroids, and you have to use ALOT of dodging and flips to avoid it. Another Goliath could be basically a mix of a basilisk and morpheel, but landbased. This Goliath would probably be more like a climb on and stab through the head kind of enemy, but it's bite would take 4 hearts, which would mean its easy, but very deadly at the same time.

And these techniques will apply to both Link and "Swordsman Guy", but it changes gameplay, do you want brute force and large swords, or speed and acrobatics? You get both, since the battle switches off every once and a while if you choose to (some people may enjoy seeing "swordsman guy"'s kills fly in the air in the background as they take down a Goliath)

I don't know what else, and I can see how it seems like its too overhauled but come on that would be the funnest time playing as link i would ever have, I mean slaying hordes of pawns with single swipes of your dual swords, and taming or killing giant monsters spread throughout the battle.

I mean i can edit it however you want but you have to tell what you DON'T want in that battle, or if you don't want that battle at all. So elaborate more on your opinions

now that sounds good. i like the enemies who are fun to fight even if they are a bit easy. as long as they are fun. i like the battle its totally epic! havent been much of those in a zelda game. i would like the do it again like fighting the boss battles in majoras mask. but that sounds very good i like it

Originally Posted by michael12268

now that sounds good. i like the enemies who are fun to fight even if they are a bit easy. as long as they are fun. i like the battle its totally epic! havent been much of those in a zelda game. i would like the do it again like fighting the boss battles in majoras mask. but that sounds very good i like it

thanks and im going to make a sketch of all of the goliaths and the spawns and see what people think of them. I still need to think about how link will fight "Fierce Deity Link" however, hm, maybe they should fight on the back of a super goliath XD

ha that would be kool! i think at least the beginning of the fight between the two of them should be a bit of a cutscene then have the rest of it be actual fight. proabably make a short part have like them fighting each other while fighting all the other enemies or something like that just a huge epic battle

yep, now all i have to do is strengthen the storyline, make a map, characters, dungeons, races, sidequests, and concept art. I know it's a long shot but im determined to finish the idea and send it to Nintendo as a 30 page concept report on the game =D. If it doesnt happen, oh well, it's still fun imagining all of this, and woohoo over 800 views! i feel special =D

oh i have a way that you may be able to add the minish in. i read all the threads and i dont remember anybody saying something about them. maybe it can be like a part of a sidequest like a short four swords sidequest involving like vaati and adding the four links but just a sidequest it wouldnt work if it was part of the story line. it would be pretty kool having the four links in it. even if it is just a sidequest or something

Responses in bold. Sorry if they sound a bit critical, I'm a bit pessimistic.

This is an idea I say would be great for the next Zelda game, involves a brand new villain, and the exclusion of ganondorf from the main conflict.

I say they take the whole entire concept of the triforce, ganon/dorf, and zelda, and just make it a background that just hovers over links head, but it can also interject with the next Zelda storyline. Do what they did with majora's mask, build the story from the ground up.

In the next game, they should make an entirely new villain, or a new version of dark link. Now dark link was really just a black silhouette of link's body, and that was cool, but what if they pulled a Sephiroth with dark link, like make Dark link his literal dark half. In fact his design could BE fierce deity link, cause that is a badass form of link and would fit the role perfectly, but he will be like a giant mystery. And even at the end of the game, after you beat him, he should be still unexplained, and should leave you thinking. It would leave the same effect that was at the end of Halo 3, where the last segment of the game is you seeing another halo. What happens now?

No offense, but doesn't basing him off another villain (or two) kind of cancel out the effect of having a new villain? Sure, it wouldn't be Ganondorf again, but it wouldn't be anyone new, and changing the name can only go so far. And one of the biggest mistakes Nintendo made with TP was leaving too much unsaid. They gave the fans room for speculation, and the fans raised hell about it. I don't think they're going to do that again anytime soon.

This "sephiroth/dark link" should have his own personal name, and give him his own personality and way of talking (obviously not verbal, since Zelda characters don't have sound in the games, only text). Ganondorf was very pompous and a little cliche with his personality. "Sephiroth/darklink" (again, should look exactly like fierce deity link) should be very cryptic and mysterious, a lot like Kreia from KOTOR 2: the sith lords. But again, Kreia was explained a lot at the end. "Sephiroth/Darklink" should be left almost completely unexplained.

Again, not only is it unlikely Nintendo will stick Dark Link, Oni, and Sephiroth in a blender, it's even less likely they won't try and explain it if they do.

In this story at the beginning it should be like Majora's Mask, only without epona, just him walking alone through a much thicker and darker forest. He should be really distressed but we don’t know why. Eventually he should meet some new characters who play very major roles in the plot and they should be original to the story (Personally link should have a traveling companion [but shouldn’t go into dungeons], someone who is also very unexplained and should be sort of like a Japanese swordsman and wear armor and stuff, and should seem like hes on neither side) and these characters could lead him to a city cause he’s so bashed up and injured (still we don't know why) that he needs medical attention.

At this point I say Miyamoto could create a GIANT brand new land for the story to take place in, with a sprawling fully explorable city with lots of markets. (also the market bit is only for swords, armor, and healing items, and accesories.Items like the hookshot and the mirror sheild, ball and chain, etc are all going to be used the same way).Think assassins creed + Elder scrolls Oblivion. Yeah, add that to Zelda, best game of all time. Make brand new races and enemies, though Zoras should be there, but have a much larger role and be very aggressive, haughty, and have scimitars (and have their own individual looks, not just clones of the same Zora). It should have a very arabesque, tropical, and medieval feel to it. Like have lush forests and giant flowers cover the landscape, and have a needed mountain range possibly east of the city that would be similar to the snow area in twilight princess but make it larger and give it more new enemies (but those ice monster things with the red eyes that breathe frozen vapor should DEFINITELY make a comeback in that area, those things were awesome)

I don't quite agree with everything you said here, but I really don't feel like starting some sort of Sim City: LoZ edition thing right now.

by the way i think link should have the ability to use two swords if he wants, and any kind he wants seeing as the master sword is not needed in this idea. thats where the markets of the main city would come in great, buy more and more powerful weapons and chainmail and etc. and should the amount of rupees link can hold should be less limited?

People are already complaining that Zelda games are too easy, and you want to make Link stronger?

but remember this game will try to save many aspects of the zelda series as well, such as minigames and the occasional hilarious remark, and especially heart pieces and collecting items to get new things.

Sounds good.

and on my idea of the villain being the revamped version of dark link looking like fierce diety link could work under the terms that Link is not just a reborn form of the hero of time, but another darker being that was link's termina form (who is fierce diety link in my opinion) and that these two somehow intertwine in the Twilight princess link (yes this is supposed to be a sequel to twilight princess, unless you disagree with that notion) though the process of rebirth and link holds both of them inside him, and this darker entity eventually bursts out of him in this idea. And this game could also play into the background of majora's mask, since many theories suggest that fierce deity link fought majora in the past (in the universe of termina). but who says it was for the good of the world? what if they were rivals? OH! plot twist!

Sounds a bit cliched, but I guess it could work. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't for the good of the world, seeing as how the FD mask has "Dark powers" and good people aren't allowed to have those.

Obviously I'm going to get alot of criticism on my alternate universe statement saying that "termina is in the world of hyrule and the hero of time, how do you explain skull kid saying 'You smell like the fairy kid who taught me that song in the woods'". well ill tell you how, ALTERNATE UNIVERSE. that event could have transpired in a different context, and link's smell could be coincidental.

I always thought it was explained like this: Link meets Skull Kid. Skull kid goes to Termina. Link goes to Termina. Link meets Skull Kid again.

Basically this version of dark link/fierce deity link would far surpass the evil of ganon/dorf in my opinion.

Opinion, yeah. Doesn't make it any more likely. Nintendo isn't going to diminish the image of Link's most powerful foe just to promote some new guy who probably won't be coming back.

And also, this is now currently a sequel to twilight princess AND majora's mask! yay!

I've always found direct sequels to be a little lackluster, but that's just my opinion.

Plus, couldn't this possibly make for the creepiest and darkest Zelda game yet?

Uh... Not from the way you described it. Hyrule being destroyed in Wind Waker is infinitely darker than Link having an evil side, IMO.

and obviously this is not a confirmed game AT ALL, its only a concept idea. Just to clear the air so no one gets confused.

To add on to that Zora idea I just had, perhaps they are very distrustful of humans and don’t want to interact with them, therefore making them very isolated and tribal. Dekus should also take a role similar to the ents in lotr, but be obviously smaller but be a lot cooler looking than earlier deku designs. Basically the humans of this land are enemies of these two races, and the dekus and the zoras don’t like to interact either.

They'd have a lot of explaining to do... I don't see the Zoras suddenly deciding that they hate the Hylians a year or two after TP, where they had no qualms whatsoever. I guess it could be different in a different realm, but that's kind of pushing it.

Also the graphics should be UNBELEIVEABLE, like being able to see every detail of the races and making the land with much more ability to be interesting.

Setting yourself up for disappointment here, buddy.

Sadly, the only way this game would be able to be done to the full extent (at the current time that is) would be making Nintendo not release it for the wii, and put it on the 360 and ps3, and that would sadden us all. Yet on the brightside, this game could also be held for the next nintendo system, and hopefully Nintendo will make their graphics equal to the next Sony and Microsoft system so that this game could stay a Nintendo only game.

*Eye twitches* No. Just no.

I literally just made this up, and I think I'm going to try to develop the story line fully soon, and if you guys show alot of support for it (if you like it that is), we could send it to miyamoto for a plot idea for the NEXT NEXT gen Zelda game.

Don't hold back, give me the most criticism you can, this idea should be a community made plotline for the zelda fans. That way I can make it good for everyone.

Your thoughts? (Sorry that it was so long)

and i forgot the "sephiroth/darklink" will be spawned from links mind, but ill leave clues in the plot as to how that happens, but it will never really be explained, only put up for debate, like the zora -> rito theory

well critical is what i wanted so thanks =D

read the rest of the forum and ive actually decided to take out that mystery part at the end, and just leave the mystery to be solved at the end of the game. Cause after reading a certain book, i just realized i hate people leaving things unexplained. I've also stated that this would probably be on the next nintendo system. and yes it is an alternate realm, and im still making ideas for the dark/creepy part. And just because link will be stronger doesnt mean that the game will be easier, it just means harder bosses and enemies will be in the game (read the whole goliath idea on pages 3 and 4 for examples of this)

As for the zora thing, ive been developing that and i will post the reasons for their hatred of humans (YOU ARE NOT IN HYRULE IN THIS GAME, which means THEY ARE NOT HYLIANS) in the story soon.

And so far i havent said how fierce deity link is evil, or what he will do in the game. However very soon those details will be revealed.

Hopefully once i fix this rough draft and combine all the things in this forum and develop the game idea, you'll have less to criticize. =D

Edit: Its just fierce deity link as the villain. and when i say new i mean he was never a villain, so hes a new villain. new villains dont have to be new characters as well

Originally Posted by cocoaaero

That sounds like it would make an awesome game! it would be cool if it had a whole new world that was big but it also included termina, and hyrule too. it would also be cool if the minish were involved in it.

Yeah the minish would be awsome. Ive wanted a game where you go through all the storys as a tiemline and whenn the adult timeline and the child timelin comes up you could choose to advance to adult or continue as a kid and then go adult. its a little to much but..
And im almost doen making an almost exact re make of the Minish cap. ill work on what i want after that but it will only be 2.5D

Originally Posted by Zeldasupergamer

Ok so no hyrule should the mirror shield look like it did in OoT or MM and should the hylian shield be the hero's shield

well I mean in a few sidequest you possibly be doing things in hyrule, but where im at in the story i dont think hyrule would make much sense to be in the main part game

hm, i dont know, i have to think about the sheilds

I thought of a level where link drinks poision milk berfore a joust and still has to fight but in the end he accidentally kills the oppenent by shooting him with a crossbow to save himself
Link then goes to jail where u can escape or do hard work

1. there is no reason for sheik to be in it, though i have the next best thing, you can JOIN the sheikah clan

2. the swordsman guy is playable, but so far only at a few (epic) parts of the game

This a quick sketch, im going to work on the design alot more

I am, haha dude im drawing concept art for everything, and i didnt even put that much effort into that one goliath. By the end of the week ill have a map, jousting pictures, "swordsman guy", a detailed map of the citadel, more goliaths, the Vivalan Zora, and etc drawn.

just wait until you see the feral one =D. think rabid wolf + the cloverfeild monster

Also i've been thinking, the flying goliath could be a cross between a bat and a snake, that way it would be reptilian but mammal-like at the same time. Basically it will look like a furry snake with wings and bat legs/claws, but 10 times link's size

i think it would be cool for them to give us a good history lesson like the next game could be called the legen of zelda feirce deity and it can tell that whole story and you end up fighting majora but this time in like his acually form not mask form and u get more in with feirce link like you become him like in oot u start as young link and become adult u can start as adult and become feirce link that would be a pretty sick game. i like how in tp thy came up with a new villan aka zant i dont know if he died for good because ganon never does so he can get more powerfull and be the acually main baddy in another game who knows