When will we get a new DS Zelda?

[Daemonius]

You'd think it actually wouldn't take that much time, they already have the engine (PH's) to use. All they have to do is create a new country (or re-use Hyrule, again), create a new story (or re-use Ganon, again), add/change some items, think of a fun "gimmick" and some "fresh" dungeons...

Okay, this may be somewhat simplified, but if I got paid to design a new Zelda game I'd have it ready within a month. Seriously, they have more than developement teams to work on: as far we know the capable first part developement that aren't working on anything are EAD, Retro Studios and SPD. As for second party, Alpha Dream is more than capable, and perhaps so are Game Freak and Noise.

Seriously, I see no excuse why Zelda DS 2 hasn't been announced yet.

[CurryMonster]

Because Phantom Hourglass has only just come out?

Seriously, have some patience.

[Daemonius]

It's Japanese release was almost a year ago...

And I have more than enough patience, hell, I waited for TP (eventually lost interest, though) and am still waiting for SSBB.

[Ganon the King]

I agree with you bad. Us Zelda fans could get Zelda games organised in month each.

[Daphnes]

It hasn't even been a year yet. Zelda games have become crappy enough without having to be even more rushed. Putting out new games every month or so would just deteriorate them even more.

[Hazz]

Chances are we won't.

EAD 2 (the team that develops Zelda games) will probably be working on the new Wii Zelda for the next two years, maybe more. By the time they can develop a new game the DS will be at the end of its lifespan, they'll probably go for the next handheld or do another Zelda for a homeconsole.

[Ralphie]

We dont even want a new DS zelda. We want a PS2/3 and xbox Zelda. Come one nintendo, work with otherS!!!!!!!

[Daphnes]

Originally Posted by Agni

We don't even want a new DS zelda. We want a PS2/3 and xbox Zelda. Come one nintendo, work with otherS!!!!!!!

Zelda is a Nintendo exclusive, and it won't be changing. It might improve things for the series itself, but Ninty would suffer from having one of its top series on other consoles.

Let's think about this. LA was on Gameboy, and DX was on Color. OoX was on Gameboy color. The ALttP remake and FS was on GBA. The handheld systems seem to only get one Zelda, except for OoX which come together with each other anyway.

We probably won't see another DS Zelda, since by the time they get done with Zelda Wii they'll have the next handheld system out.

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Agni

We dont even want a new DS zelda. We want a PS2/3 and xbox Zelda. Come one nintendo, work with otherS!!!!!!!

hell no, those consoles don't belong to nintendo, zelda is a nintendo series

[BigGoronSword]

Originally Posted by Agni

We dont even want a new DS zelda. We want a PS2/3 and xbox Zelda. Come one nintendo, work with otherS!!!!!!!

I'd have to agree with Daphnes on this one. Asking Zelda to go on PS3 or Xbox is like asking the Big Mac to move to Burger King. It's never going to happen. Well I suppose I shouldn't say "never", but considering Nintendo holds all the rights of one of the biggest gaming franchises on their system, I don't think they'd let it go (too bad that they let go of Metal Gear and FF...)

Originally Posted by Daphnes

Let's think about this. LA was on Gameboy, and DX was on Color. OoX was on Gameboy color. The ALttP remake and FS was on GBA. The handheld systems seem to only get one Zelda, except for OoX which come together with each other anyway.

We probably won't see another DS Zelda, since by the time they get done with Zelda Wii they'll have the next handheld system out.

This is where I'd have to disagree.

NES: LoZ & AoL
SNES: ALttP
GB: LA
N64: OoT & MM
GBC: OoS & OoA
GBA: FS & tMC
GC: tWW & FSA
Wii: TP & _____
DS: PH & _____

If you look above, with the exception of SNES and GB, every system had two original (meaning, no remakes) Zelda games on it.

The Wii and DS are relatively new systems, so there's plenty of time to make a second game. And since every Link has two adventures, the next Zelda games will feature TP Link, tMC Link, or a completely new Link. It's just a matter of time.

Originally Posted by Daemonius

You'd think it actually wouldn't take that much time, they already have the engine (PH's) to use. All they have to do is create a new country (or re-use Hyrule, again), create a new story (or re-use Ganon, again), add/change some items, think of a fun "gimmick" and some "fresh" dungeons...

Okay, this may be somewhat simplified, but if I got paid to design a new Zelda game I'd have it ready within a month.

Well I'm sure Nintendo is glad that there are fans out there that have that much enthusiasm as you do, but like you just said "this may be somewhat simplified". Video games take more than a month to create. Heck, even movies take at least 10 months to make 90 minutes of film.

Haven't you even considered that Nintendo is creating a completely different engine to use for their next DS game? LA: DX and OoX were both on the GBC but they look different, and so do FS and tMC.

...as far we know...

Exactly, "as far as we know", because we don't know anything. We can assume, and make predictions, but that's it. Companies are tight-lipped about information. Haven't you noticed that ever since OoT game out there have been many time-traveling based games? Or when the Wii came out, the PS3 had the 6 axis. They are stealing ideas from Nintendo.

Seriously, I see no excuse why Zelda DS 2 hasn't been announced yet.

Timing is everything (especially when you have to compete against other companies who have games & famous characters of their own). If anybody is going to look for any kind of announcement, they wait (that means being patient) until a gaming convention comes up. For example: E3, Tokyo Game Show, and the Leipzig Games Convention.

-BGS

[Ralphie]

Of course I know it´s never gonna happen. But I dont own a Wii, so for me it would be great, also if all the nice games could do the same. Like metroid prime and SSBB (the only good games on wii)

[Daphnes]

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

This is where I'd have to disagree.

NES: LoZ & AoL
SNES: ALttP
GB: LA
N64: OoT & MM
GBC: OoS & OoA
GBA: FS & tMC
GC: tWW & FSA
Wii: TP & _____
DS: PH & _____

If you look above, with the exception of SNES and GB, every system had two original (meaning, no remakes) Zelda games on it.

I forgot about TMC. However, OoX were made at the same time instead of having vastly different release dates. I'm not sure if FS is considered a full on game, if you know what I mean.

Yes, the greater consoles usually do have two games to them, but we're not counting those. I was saying DS might not have another game because of the attention given to consoles. I suppose if you count OoX as two separate projects, and FS as an individual game instead of an add-on, then it could be plausable for another DS Zelda.

[BigGoronSword]

Originally Posted by Daphnes

I forgot about TMC. However, OoX were made at the same time instead of having vastly different release dates. I'm not sure if FS is considered a full on game, if you know what I mean.

I consider OoX as two different games, even if they were made at the exact same time (it's just one Link having an adventure one right after the other). It's not like the adventures were identical (like Pokemon) with minor changes in detail. They were two completely different games.

The FS series always gets a bad rap, but most notably the first game that came out. Ok, yes it wasn't as popular as the other games and the series, and yes there were only 4 dungeons to play through, but it's still considered as a Zelda game, just like how Tingle RPG is an actual spinoff of the series (nobody likes it, but it's there. We just have to live with it).

Yes, the greater consoles usually do have two games to them, but we're not counting those. I was saying DS might not have another game because of the attention given to consoles. I suppose if you count OoX as two separate projects, and FS as an individual game instead of an add-on, then it could be plausable for another DS Zelda.

Oh of course the home consoles get more attention. The games are usually longer, it has better graphics, and companies make more effort to advertise them (for example: If you look at any video game based off of a movie, you'll see that they show the photage from the home console, not from the portable).

Now if we look at it your way...
GB: LA
GBC: OoX
GBA: tMC
DS: PH
...then I can see how you could say that PH would be the only Zelda DS game. It's just the matter of perception. So as I see it, we're at a stalemate until Nintendo officially announces something.

-BGS

[Daphnes]

I always thought of the Oracles as one game. One is just a continuation of the other. I suppose FS should count as a complete game, even though it came with the ALttP remake.

I admit it's possible. We just have to wait and see.

[Nathan]

It's been said already but... it's been, at the most, one year if you go off the earliest release of PH. Nintendo, in nearly every interview, says there is usually 3 - 5 year intervals between each release. So, if the DS one came out a year ago, the earliest you could expect a new one is in 2010/2011. The Wii, on the other hand, is due a new game roughly the end of next year or so.

And, the fact you think having a engine means making a game is simple is beyond me. It's not just about making a game, it's about making a game that doesn't suck. The next Zelda annoucment will be for a Wii Zelda, that much is sure. The debate now is that it seems the next Wii Zelda could be First person based off speculation, LCT, and the Fact Myiamoto said in a japanese interview that he wanted OOT to be FPS but it wouldn't work well with the whole "aging" aspect.

[Daemonius]

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

Well I'm sure Nintendo is glad that there are fans out there that have that much enthusiasm as you do, but like you just said "this may be somewhat simplified". Video games take more than a month to create. Heck, even movies take at least 10 months to make 90 minutes of film.

I didn't mean create an entire videogame in one month, but have the design for it ready in one month, so that they already exactly know how everything will be made.

Haven't you even considered that Nintendo is creating a completely different engine to use for their next DS game? LA: DX and OoX were both on the GBC but they look different, and so do FS and tMC.

No, as they seem to prefer reusing older engines, change them or base them upon older ones.

[Sage_of_Stars]

If they did make a new Zelda ds game, then I think it should be on land this time. Link should also be able to ride Epona. Maybe this time they could put in targetting by making Link face the nearest enemy when you touch one of the shoulder buttons. You could then walk around the enemy while still facing it. The standard stylus controls (walking, sword swing) would still be there.

[Ganon the King]

Yeah I can see another DS one being made... but they'd have to finish it in 2-3 years.

As for Zelda, a release in two more years should be okay, three to four would be pushing it because it will be at the end of the Wiis lifespan.

What then!!?? Will they then push it back another 18 months so they can port it to their next console!!?? FFs. They are so desperate I swear.

[Artorium]

Taking time on a game = pure quality = pure win.
Pumping out as mnay games asap = Crap = loose.

That rule explains it all.

[Daemonius]

Originally Posted by Artorium

Taking time on a game = pure quality = pure win.
Pumping out as mnay games asap = Crap = loose.

That rule explains it all.

No it doesn't, you merely need to give a game enough time and not too much *looks at TP*

If a game's developement takes too long, people start losing interest...

[Grumble Guru]

Originally Posted by Agni

We dont even want a new DS zelda. We want a PS2/3 and xbox Zelda. Come one nintendo, work with otherS!!!!!!!

Whoa, where did this guy come from?

Heh, Nintendo is the company that makes and owns Zelda; they're only going to put it on their sysems.

What do you mean by 'we' anyway? Are you a bunch of people that come up with these ideas, or are you representing some other people? You're definatley not representing ZUers, they know fully well that where won't be any Zelda 360 or Zelda PS3.

[Grumble Guru]

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

And since every Link has two adventures, the next Zelda games will feature TP Link, tMC Link, or a completely new Link. It's just a matter of time.

That's where I get some feeling of "Are you sure?" from you, Mr. BGS. Like you said in the same post, we can make predictions, assumptions, and that's as far as we can go.

We can't be fully sure if we're going to have tMC Link, TP Link, or a completely new Link at all. Sure, it's very probable, but we don't know.
We can't exactly prove that every Link has had two adventures - though most of them have. Following the somewhat consistency... Probable. Very probable. But not for certain.

Might be best if we let the future unfold... We have no real leverage on what Nintendo does. But then again, we wouldn't be foruming, would we?

[david401]

Originally Posted by Nathan

It's been said already but... it's been, at the most, one year if you go off the earliest release of PH. Nintendo, in nearly every interview, says there is usually 3 - 5 year intervals between each release. So, if the DS one came out a year ago, the earliest you could expect a new one is in 2010/2011. The Wii, on the other hand, is due a new game roughly the end of next year or so.

And, the fact you think having a engine means making a game is simple is beyond me. It's not just about making a game, it's about making a game that doesn't suck. The next Zelda annoucment will be for a Wii Zelda, that much is sure. The debate now is that it seems the next Wii Zelda could be First person based off speculation, LCT, and the Fact Myiamoto said in a japanese interview that he wanted OOT to be FPS but it wouldn't work well with the whole "aging" aspect.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope Nintendo doesn't make a first person Zelda game! O_o