Planning something big

[Veronox]

I remember reading somewhere (and I promise I'll find the Link) that Miyamoto apparently hasn't been as involved in the Zelda series as he was for OoT. Allegedly the same article (I repeat, I promise I'll find it) has apparently stated that th Wii's new Zelda will attempt to be as revolutionary and as ground-breaking as Ocarina of Time was considered. Anyway, I wanted to ask fellow Zelda fanatics, what revolutionary feature(s) do you think will dethrone Ocarina of Time? I would give my opinion if I could, but I'm drawing blanks...

[ImReallyLink]

I'm thinking that more integrated swordplay would be one of the biggest things that Nintendo could do to re-revolutionize the Zelda series. Other than that, I'm pretty sure the only way they could make as groundbreaking as OoT would be to project the game directly into your mind.

Try to find that article soon.

[langford]

Maybe they have big plans, maybe they don't. It's pretty standard for any game to be advertised as big whether it is or not. If they are doing something new, I hope it's something nice like a sandbox type overworld, and not something bad like a first person perspective.

[ESE150]

Originally Posted by ImReallyLink

Other than that, I'm pretty sure the only way they could make as groundbreaking as OoT would be to project the game directly into your mind.

...Come on. OOT wasn't that revolutionary >.>

Originally Posted by langford

Maybe they have big plans, maybe they don't. It's pretty standard for any game to be advertised as big whether it is or not. If they are doing something new, I hope it's something nice like a sandbox type overworld, and not something bad like a first person perspective.

Why would you want a sandbox type overworld?

[langford]

Originally Posted by ESE150

...Why would you want a sandbox type overworld?

Think of GTA, even when there are no missions, there are tons of fun ways to kill time. Think of WW too, no loading screens, and none of the usual zelda "halls and rooms" map stuff.

[ESE150]

Originally Posted by langford

Think of GTA, even when there are no missions, there are tons of fun ways to kill time. Think of WW too, no loading screens, and none of the usual zelda "halls and rooms" map stuff.

Oh. I misunderstood your post. I thought you wanted the overworld to be randomly generated, not the events.

[BigGoronSword]

The only ideas I have would be 1:1 swordplay (as it's already been mentioned in the past), and something that would totally give away the timeline: A Link that can travel between thousands of years! The thought has crossed my mind before (however time-travel has been implemented in too many games already...), but I'd be afraid that it would turn into a Kingdom Hearts-esque kind of game. Sure you wouldn't be traveling to different worlds, but the feeling is still there.

-BGS

[Ralphie]

Better swordplay as mentioned.


Something for the story;

0h n0es! Ganondorf has returned (again-.-) Now with his Son! Ganondorf has finally gotten smart and decides to find Link(´s recarnation) and kill him while he can. Everyone in Hyrule knows of this, so Link runs to find the master sword (watta coward). But no! It´s not where it´s suppose to be O..o Link does not know what to do, he´s gonna run home now. Oh whats that? at the exit? It´s ganondorf´s son! With the power of his father he banishes Link to a far gone realm. Where he finds the master sword, that gandondorf had banished(not knowing that his son was going to banish Link into the same realm, whats the odds?) to with his knew found powers. He takes it, OOooo the power! Link most find a way to return to Hyrule, then after a dungeon of something, he finds Rauru o.o With his powers he returns Link to Hyrule, then it´s the same. Temple - temple - temple BOSS KILL WIN!


Other story:
In the realm that ganondorf (lets call him G for now , K?) now exist´s in, he has a son-.-. The son of G has some power of the triforce of power in him and can togehter with his father, they can escape that realm. They are now back in Hyrule. But whats this? it´s before he was killed? Now that he knows how he´s going to die, he also knows how to stop it. Then it´s practicly the same as story 1.

[nikita]

Originally Posted by Veronox

I remember reading somewhere (and I promise I'll find the Link) that Miyamoto apparently hasn't been as involved in the Zelda series as he was for OoT. Allegedly the same article (I repeat, I promise I'll find it) has apparently stated that th Wii's new Zelda will attempt to be as revolutionary and as ground-breaking as Ocarina of Time was considered. Anyway, I wanted to ask fellow Zelda fanatics, what revolutionary feature(s) do you think will dethrone Ocarina of Time? I would give my opinion if I could, but I'm drawing blanks...

I hope nothing cancel Zelda! Zelda games are the best video games in the world!!!! It would also be better for Nintendo to make more Zelda games!!! But fun & perfectoin takes time. Waiting is also good to!! Cuz when a game comes out, you get, & then play the game like mad!!! I hope you get more opinion!! Good luck!!!

[nikita]

Originally Posted by Agni

Better swordplay as mentioned.


Something for the story;

0h n0es! Ganondorf has returned (again-.-) Now with his Son! Ganondorf has finally gotten smart and decides to find Link(´s recarnation) and kill him while he can. Everyone in Hyrule knows of this, so Link runs to find the master sword (watta coward). But no! It´s not where it´s suppose to be O..o Link does not know what to do, he´s gonna run home now. Oh whats that? at the exit? It´s ganondorf´s son! With the power of his father he banishes Link to a far gone realm. Where he finds the master sword, that gandondorf had banished(not knowing that his son was going to banish Link into the same realm, whats the odds?) to with his knew found powers. He takes it, OOooo the power! Link most find a way to return to Hyrule, then after a dungeon of something, he finds Rauru o.o With his powers he returns Link to Hyrule, then it´s the same. Temple - temple - temple BOSS KILL WIN!


Other story:
In the realm that ganondorf (lets call him G for now , K?) now exist´s in, he has a son-.-. The son of G has some power of the triforce of power in him and can togehter with his father, they can escape that realm. They are now back in Hyrule. But whats this? it´s before he was killed? Now that he knows how he´s going to die, he also knows how to stop it. Then it´s practicly the same as story 1.

Good stories!! I hope you make more so other fans can read them too!!

,nikita

[Goronlove7]

Well first lets see what made OoT, WW and TP so different and be good

1.OoT
-target system
-horse back riding
-3D
-The story
-Music
-Time travel
-navi
2.WW
-The sea
-Cell shading graphics
(and probably other things I'm way to hot to remember)
3.TP
-Wolf link
-art like graphic style
-Midna
-The original story(twilight realm)
-The way dungeons have better names than wind water forest ect.
anything else tell me but maybe the new zelda will have more changes than OoT.

[shadow_link_08]

well, to make it really revolutionary, i think nintendo has to find the balance between keeping what was good from the older zelda games, and introducing new ideas to make the game fresh.

personally, i think they should bring an instrument back, where you learn songs and actually play them. maybe this time they could have multiple instruments? (not like MM, where they just look and sound different). maybe different instruments have different capabilities and must be played differently using the wii remote and nunchuk?

and i'm also a fan of the old time travelling. but maybe, nintendo could find some way to interweave the short span travel of MM and the long span travel of OoT (maybe even bigger, by hundreds of years! like someone else mentioned. think prince of persia: the warrior within)

everyone's been mentioning better sword action, which would make sense since advanced interaction is pretty much the main purpose of the wii. so maybe you can do different sword moves depending on how you move the wii remote? maybe you can wield two weapons (wii remote and nunchuk), or control sword and shield separately?

hmmm, new items always does the trick. it seems like so far the items and weapons have just been variations of items and weapons from older games. (ball and chain replaced the hammer, grappling hook, hookshot, and clawshots are all very similar). the newest thing i can think of is the spinner, but that wasn't entirely interesting. i'm not trying to be overly critical, either, because i know thinking of all this is easier said than done, but a few new surprises would be nice.

well, horse riding made OoT innovative, and sailing made WW innovative (although that did get a little old), and that flying minigame was kind of nice in TP. what if there were multiple ways to travel, depending on where you are? travel on foot, or on horseback, cross lakes and rivers (maybe even the ocean) by boat to get to the other side, or to an island. and maybe they could incorporate some kind of flying technique? maybe by some kind of glider, or winged animal? perhaps this could come in handy in the mountains, or in some kind of "city in the sky."

kind of long, but the ideas just keep coming. i have a feeling that i shall post again...

[Daemonius]

Originally Posted by Goronlove7

Well first lets see what made OoT, WW and TP so different and be good

1.OoT
-target system
-horse back riding
-3D
-The story
-Music
-Time travel
-navi
2.WW
-The sea
-Cell shading graphics
(and probably other things I'm way to hot to remember)
3.TP
-Wolf link
-art like graphic style
-Midna
-The original story(twilight realm)
-The way dungeons have better names than wind water forest ect.
anything else tell me but maybe the new zelda will have more changes than OoT.

OoT wasn't really revolutionary, perhaps only in it's series. And TP is pretty much OoT minus Sheik and plus a new coverup villain for Ganny to use.

Also, how the hell do DUNGEON NAMES make the game itself different?

[shadow_link_08]

already thought of another one:


multiple kingdoms with multiple rulers. similar to the provinces from TP, but these kingdoms are larger and have their own castles with their own rulers. perhaps some are in allegiance with the king of hyrule, and some aren't?

each kingdom would have its own race, its own terrain, and its own enemies.

TP had a huge landscape, but almost nothing to do in the majority of it! this time, there should be plenty of surprises and things to fill up the large landscape of the next game.

[Verrick]

Originally Posted by Goronlove7

1.OoT
-target system
-horse back riding
-3D
-The story
-Music
-Time travel
-navi

Target good
Horseback fine
Story yes
Music certainly
Time travel=plot element
Navi=annoying

2.WW
-The sea
-Cell shading graphics
(and probably other things I'm way to hot to remember)

The Sea long tedious boring
Cell Shading Brilliant
Brilliant Story (great ending)
No load times
Interesting characters
Plenty of side quests

3.TP
-Wolf link
-art like graphic style
-Midna
-The original story(twilight realm)
-The way dungeons have better names than wind water forest ect.
anything else tell me but maybe the new zelda will have more changes than OoT.

Wolf Link not that great
That's a darker graphic style, not art like. (art like more like okami)
Midna is iffy, she wont be a series standard so we cant really count her
The story is the same as most of the series: FSA, OoT, ALttP, and TWW all use the same basic plot line.
Dungeon Names? No. Dodongo's Cavern, Dragon Roost Cavern, Jabu Jabu's belly, Forsaken Fortress, Forbidden Woods, need I go on? TP wasn't the first, and it doesn't make a difference.

[Goronlove7]

Dungeon Names? No. Dodongo's Cavern, Dragon Roost Cavern, Jabu Jabu's belly, Forsaken Fortress, Forbidden Woods, need I go on? TP wasn't the first, and it doesn't make a difference.

ya don't now why I wrote that.

The Sea long tedious boring
Cell Shading Brilliant
Brilliant Story (great ending)
No load times
Interesting characters
Plenty of side quests

Positive attitude for a game that wasn't that great.
And back on topic I recently beat (yayya!) AoL and I relay liked it and the thing is most people hate that game It's "the black sheep" but that game is really good if you get far and most people didn't bother because it was different.So now there's a bunch of ignorant people scared of change.And initially don't understand the greatness of change.Plus change doesn't mean different change could be like the way the NES games were with spells and that magic wand thing from the first one.So OoT was revalutionary and the WW was a change but a change of map not any thing else so why not change,and I really hate when people say it will ruin or sellout the series it takes destroying Nintendo to destroy a series not a single game hopefully Zelda has built a better reputation these 22 years than to be destroyed by a single game!

[Verrick]

Originally Posted by Goronlove7

Positive attitude for a game that wasn't that great.

10 times the game TP will ever be.

[ImReallyLink]

WW was fantastic. More games like that are welcome in my book. More innovation is also welcome.

[Goronlove7]

10 times the game TP will ever be.

No just wrong WW was a disappointment and I don't care about your point of view I'm right your wrong.
EDIT:I was a bit hard it's about as good as WW.

[Adventurer]

I heard they were thinking of the balance board... ??? (I hope NOT)

[Ganon the King]

1:1 gameplay.

A unique plot akin to MM's uniqueness.

Perfect every detail of the game and find a balance between dungeons, in-between dungeon content, side-quests, mini-games, cutscenes and everything else.

Totally new Zelda explaining nothing about the timeline. People should just forget about their timeline because: 1. Zelda needs to start anew with no burdens and 2. I don't think anyone really wants a game that explains all the timeline issues about every Zelda game. Sorry, but Nintendo aren't doing it, otherwise they would have cleared more things up with TP.

[MadCucco]

A 1st person Zelda would be an enormous change in the series, but a good one only if handled carefully.

[ginger17]

Originally Posted by Adventurer

I heard they were thinking of the balance board... ??? (I hope NOT)

Whats a balance board?

[Veronox]

Sorry guys, but I can't find the freaking article. Still looking though.

Edit:

Originally Posted by ginger17

Whats a balance board?

The balance board is a board for the Wii that looks like a set of bathroom scales, sans screen/display. It can detect your weight, balance, and pressure. It is thought that the board can estimate weight better than a set of bathroom scales.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Balance_Board