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Old 04-19-2008, 02:48 AM
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Wind Magic...

Wind Magic...
The only cool Magic...

Fire=Easy
Ice = Invincibility...

wind=awesome

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^ Wind could be speedy, but normal-damaging arrows that you draw a path for. It could be like the Boomerang in Phantom Hourglass, but damaging.
If The Master Sword got wind abilities it could potentially simply just Blow People Back or suck people in...

Faores Wind-Makes sure you can get out of traps or get pased a door that blocks you way when you enter a room... Those that are wise use it as a safety net when they get into something they can't finish...

Other Magic like Vagrant gusts would just throw everything into the air and push it around into random places which would be really bad where there is lava but otherwise, you'll be fine... But then again... because you have L-targeting its kinda useless and will make you invincible...

Wind... doesn't kill.... just makes things a little more... interesting...
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Re: Wind Magic...

Wind Waker, Gale Boomerang, Ocarina of Wind, Deku Leaf, Gust Jar, Roc's Cape, Roc's Feather, Hurricane Spin.
Link uses a lot of wind. He's the hero of winds in some games. And yet it doesn't seem like he uses enough wind.
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Old 04-20-2008, 07:41 PM
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I always thought Zelda needs more Lightning, the only Lightning magic/item Link ever had was the THUNDER magic in AoL, there's already too much wind.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:28 AM
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Wind Waker, Gale Boomerang, Ocarina of Wind, Deku Leaf, Gust Jar, Roc's Cape, Roc's Feather, Hurricane Spin.
Link uses a lot of wind. He's the hero of winds in some games. And yet it doesn't seem like he uses enough wind.
Its never enough.......
Fire is for the powerful looking for the quick kill
Ice is for the wise looking to survive
wind is for the couragous who just want to test their skills

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I always thought Zelda needs more Lightning, the only Lightning magic/item Link ever had was the THUNDER magic in AoL, there's already too much wind.
Lightnings for people who have poor aim...
Its meant to home in without you doing anything...

Or stunning effects... which is very similar to ice...

THats the way I feel about it...
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:33 AM
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Its never enough.......
Fire is for the powerful looking for the quick kill
Ice is for the wise looking to survive
wind is for the couragous who just want to test their skills



Lightnings for people who have poor aim...
Its meant to home in without you doing anything...

Or stunning effects... which is very similar to ice...

THats the way I feel about it...
"lightning is for people who have poor aim?"
you say it like it's a fact, when it's just your opinion.(didnt see your last sentence)

in my opinion, zelda doesnt need more wind.
like someone already said, there's even a Hero of Winds. Wind Waker used the elements of wind quite often...
in my opinion, it's just not as epic as you make it out to be.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:44 AM
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"lightning is for people who have poor aim?"
you say it like it's a fact, when it's just your opinion.

in my opinion, zelda doesnt need more wind.
like someone already said, there's even a Hero of Winds. Wind Waker used the elements of wind quite often...
in my opinion, it's just not as epic as you make it out to be.
When thinking about elements... lets look at the facts...

Lightings biggest triumph over the other elements is its pinpoint accuracy...
-Getting Struck by lightning is a weird thing because the path lightning takes is such a direct one...
--If people had lightning element it would be based on how accurate lightning is... As a sword is would shoot out lightning which would go to surrounding units, Arrows would home in like a thunderbolt...

Lightning is epic... that loud boom... that wonderous sight...

But wind is about speed, movement, control...
-If someone is capable of controlling the winds they would fly... fast... their arrows would be in control by them which makes the arrows not an automatic hit but rather its based on the control of the person... THey would move objects around, people around... Wind storms would make everything really weird for people and they wouldn't know whether to switch to a sword or a bow and arrow to hit their opponent since everyones flying everywhere...

Wind... is... awesome...
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:47 AM
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When thinking about elements... lets look at the facts...

Lightings biggest triumph over the other elements is its pinpoint accuracy...
-Getting Struck by lightning is a weird thing because the path lightning takes is such a direct one...
--If people had lightning element it would be based on how accurate lightning is... As a sword is would shoot out lightning which would go to surrounding units, Arrows would home in like a thunderbolt...

Lightning is epic... that loud boom... that wonderous sight...

But wind is about speed, movement, control...
-If someone is capable of controlling the winds they would fly... fast... their arrows would be in control by them which makes the arrows not an automatic hit but rather its based on the control of the person... THey would move objects around, people around... Wind storms would make everything really weird for people and they wouldn't know whether to switch to a sword or a bow and arrow to hit their opponent since everyones flying everywhere...

Wind... is... awesome...
you're contradicting yourself
when you talked about lightening, you talked about it as it is in real life, meaning it's path must be a direct one and would only hit at one point.

but when you talked about wind, you talked about it like a fantasy, saying you can control it.

well why wouldn't we be able to control lightening in a zelda game? i dont see why not...
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:58 AM
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you're contradicting yourself
when you talked about lightening, you talked about it as it is in real life, meaning it's path must be a direct one and would only hit at one point.

but when you talked about wind, you talked about it like a fantasy, saying you can control it.

well why wouldn't we be able to control lightening in a zelda game? i dont see why not...
Wind works like that
its movement


Lightning on the other hand works with 1 dimensional movement.... goes straight towards its target... like sonics B move in supersmash brothers...

Wind can be compressed, and shifted...

With electricty you can only choose your target... and the Big ball o' lightning does the rest... (Homes in)

If there were electricity storms what would happen is it would just pin point everyone and hurt everyone... no blowback... no movement... just straight up damage...

Wind causes movement... Blow on a peice of paper to get a picture of the idea... Movement makes things weirder... Your prepared to shoot somehting with a bow and all of a sudden it leaps out at you... You have a chance to react and strike it with your sword... but with electricty... its instantaneous... and homes in... You must control movement and not every breath you take is a strong as a fan blowing in your face...
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:00 AM
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Re: Wind Magic...

I think lightning is better.
Zelda has incorporated enough wind
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:08 AM
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Lightning is more interesting that wing
Its certainly pretty epic....
But I don't know what you mean by interesting besides its more mysterious... and the big boom... and the huge flash... and the wonderous instantaneous stream of light it gives off...

I am a believer in having all the elements for people to choose from...
-In the end, I think you might find wind to be the most interactive...

But...
Fire-Damages more
Ice-Slows enemies
Lightning-Homes in on enemies
Wind-Moves them one way or another...
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:12 AM
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Re: Wind Magic...

I just personally find it more interesting.
It's just a preference...I think wind is boring.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:17 AM
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I just personally find it more interesting.
It's just a preference...I think wind is boring.
Wind does seem boring when you don't see the applications...
I think you need more electricty in your life...
I'm pretty sure after you see the difference between the way they work and how much more potential wind has over electricity, you might like it more....

Remember what they do...
Thunder-1 dimesnional movement that can hit multiple targets
Wind-Momentum control...

Until then...

Enjoy
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:18 AM
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Wind does seem boring when you don't see the applications...
I think you need more electricty in your life...
I'm pretty sure after you see the difference between the way they work and how much more potential wind has over electricity, you might like it more....

Remember what they do...
Thunder-1 dimesnional movement that can hit multiple targets
Wind-Movement control...

Until then...

Enjoy

I'm just laughing
why are you trying so hard to change my mind?
I'll keep believing lightning beats wind
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:23 AM
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I'm just laughing
why are you trying so hard to change my mind?
I'll keep believing lightning beats wind
I may not need to convince you... I want to tell you the facts that I have come to understand...

Not necessarilly the trooth, but... All I gather from you is preference...

Preference doesn't really mean much to me... physics does...
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I may not need to convince you... I want to tell you the facts that I have come to understand...

Not necessarilly the trooth, but... All I gather from you is preference...

Preference doesn't really mean much to me... physics does...
Well we're talking about a video game here. The laws of physics don't apply to video games...especially Zelda.
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Well we're talking about a video game here. The laws of physics don't apply to video games...especially Zelda.
I think a beauty of zelda is that it uses elements...
Elements only get called that because they are considered a "physic"al anomaly or maybe just a basic peice of what is exsistent

Fire-Burns
Vapor, Water, Ice-State changes of momentum shifting
-Ice-Solid (potentially harder then a rock) (ice is associated to cold which is also associated to slowing down though)
-Water-Spreads as much as possible but cannot move vertically and floods upward...
-Vapor-Spreads as much as possible in three dimensions and is the basic idea of the winds, which blow to slow people running against them and can speed them up or move them sideways.. etc... movement...
Electricity-Pin point accuracy


Physics applies to video games... without physics... Electricty would be nothing more then a concept...

So... when you think of electricity... you see the big flash... and hear the big boom... but... what does it do?
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:39 AM
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Yes?
Electricity causes heat damage... I think... since it leaves people smoking... and catches trees on fire.. Fire lasts longer and is more permenent and people have been known to survive... multiple... hits from lightning...

Which could be kinda epic...
-With every lightning arrow... there is a chance to do a number of different kinds of effects or no effects at all... but... it never misses...
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Electricity causes heat damage... I think... since it leaves people smoking... and catches trees on fire.. Fire lasts longer and is more permenent and people have been known to survive... multiple... hits from lightning...
Yup.
Since lightning not only causes electricity, but fire as well, I'd say it's more interesting.

Okay, WHY am I arguing over elements?
The whole point of this thread was....so you can say Zelda should have more wind.
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Yup.
Since lightning not only causes electricity, but fire as well, I'd say it's more interesting.

Okay, WHY am I arguing over elements?
The whole point of this thread was....so you can say Zelda should have more wind.
Like I said though... it sometimes does nothing at all.... and it sometimes doesn't catch trees on fire also... it just makes a deep cut...

Zelda should have more wind...
I gave my reasoning... You debated with other reasoning... good job on being a nerd...

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Re: Wind Magic...

Quit the spamming. We all know what fire does, we all know what lightining does. Explain what you want, and why. Then discuss. There's no need for short, spammy posts, now play nice!
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