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Old 04-15-2008, 01:10 PM   #1
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This isn't directed at all of you, only a few.

They're not going to bring back Majora. Or Zant. Or Aghanim. Or anyone else like that. The villain for the next LOZ will be Ganondorf or someone entirely new.

It's simple logic. All of LOZ's villains have had their story's tied up, their tales told. Nintendo have squeezed the life out of these fellows, so it would be unnecessary to revive them. And no villain other than Ganondorf has been recurring (apart from Vaati, but his story has been tied up, and he wasn't made by the actual Zelda team). Other than Ganondorf and Vaati, every other villain is a one-hit wonder, and their story has been told. Heck, even Ganondorf's story has been fully exposed by the time of OOT, but Nintendo won't let go of him because they're stuck in the past, desperately trying to hold onto their 'glory years'.

So, yeah. Ganondorf or new. This sort of applies to other subjects too - we're not going to see Termina, the Hero Of Time or any of that again, no matter how much you want it to happen.

That is all.
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Geez, way to rain on our parade. You know, Zelda can have whatever villian they feel like no matter what you say. You may be right but still, let us think about other possibilities.
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I doubt it.
Vaati came back. Who's to say others won't follow?
I can understand Zant (He just didn't make himself out to be a decent master-mind), but everyone else has a chance or returning, if you ask me.
I would personally love to se Onox and Veran returning, and Ganondorf deserves to be in a bit less games.

That is what I think, and that is all.
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This isn't directed at all of you, only a few.

They're not going to bring back Majora. Or Zant. Or Aghanim. Or anyone else like that. The villain for the next LOZ will be Ganondorf or someone entirely new.

It's simple logic. All of LOZ's villains have had their story's tied up, their tales told. Nintendo have squeezed the life out of these fellows, so it would be unnecessary to revive them. And no villain other than Ganondorf has been recurring (apart from Vaati, but his story has been tied up, and he wasn't made by the actual Zelda team). Other than Ganondorf and Vaati, every other villain is a one-hit wonder, and their story has been told. Heck, even Ganondorf's story has been fully exposed by the time of OOT, but Nintendo won't let go of him because they're stuck in the past, desperately trying to hold onto their 'glory years'.

So, yeah. Ganondorf or new. This sort of applies to other subjects too - we're not going to see Termina, the Hero Of Time or any of that again, no matter how much you want it to happen.

That is all.
Finally, someone else who gets it! You are my new favorite newb.

The only villian other than Ganondorf who could come back is Vaati, but that's beside the point. Now, I want the rest of you to take his advice and actually discuss things worth discussing.
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bite me! give me one reoson besides the stupid one that you gave! mm was awsome and majora has some hope! you said oot story was completed? becouse of mm! mm was so cool........you cant say that the privlegd to turn into a zora,goron, and a deku
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unless you work for Nintendo, i see no reason to believe you.
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unless you work for Nintendo, i see no reason to believe you.
simple as that.
It's beautiful...

Yeah, of course they could come back. It's not as likely but it's still possible. Why would they exist in the Zelda universe in the first place if not to be reincarnated, like the other things there?
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This isn't directed at all of you, only a few.

They're not going to bring back Majora. Or Zant. Or Aghanim. Or anyone else like that. The villain for the next LOZ will be Ganondorf or someone entirely new.

It's simple logic. All of LOZ's villains have had their story's tied up, their tales told. Nintendo have squeezed the life out of these fellows, so it would be unnecessary to revive them. And no villain other than Ganondorf has been recurring (apart from Vaati, but his story has been tied up, and he wasn't made by the actual Zelda team). Other than Ganondorf and Vaati, every other villain is a one-hit wonder, and their story has been told. Heck, even Ganondorf's story has been fully exposed by the time of OOT, but Nintendo won't let go of him because they're stuck in the past, desperately trying to hold onto their 'glory years'.

So, yeah. Ganondorf or new. This sort of applies to other subjects too - we're not going to see Termina, the Hero Of Time or any of that again, no matter how much you want it to happen.

That is all.
No. I believe either Vaati or Ganondorf can come back, but probably not those other villains. Also, Nintendo is free to bring back whoever they want, whenever they want, as long as they make it fit in with the timeline.
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I did.
I still don't get it.
Please clarify your obscure meaning.
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I did.
I still don't get it.
Please clarify your obscure meaning.
I don't get it either.
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they're stuck in the past, desperately trying to hold onto their 'glory years'.
This is sadly true. LoZ, ALTTP, and OoT had a huge impact on the gaming community. Now 10 years later, as fantastic as the zelda series is, fewer and fewer people care about it. If you're a game company wanting to make money, you can create something cheap and catchy like guitar hero, or massively multiplayer like WoW or halo on xbox live. With the zelda franchise, nintendo has tried to cater to the small community that wants a long traditional adventure game, but you have to wonder how long they can keep this up before they start making drastic changes and cutbacks for financial reasons. Even if a zelda game does make some profit for the company, the sheer amount of time it takes to make one modern 3D zelda, vs tossing out a dozen wii tennis or wario ware games, is getting less and less worthwhile

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So, yeah. Ganondorf or new. This sort of applies to other subjects too - we're not going to see Termina, the Hero Of Time or any of that again, no matter how much you want it to happen.

That is all.
The problem is that Nintendo feels they need to give the player a fresh start each time, with no weapons or hearts, so the player can collect everything. To them, this means constantly making new Links. They really need to get past this idea (MM and AoL were successful in using an "old Link"), and also need to break the conception that the LoZ series is the same story being "retold". If even a few people still have that idea, they're going to be less willing to buy a new zelda game since it makes the new game sound like it's going to be a remake of the old ones. What Nintendo should do is solidify an overarching storyline to the series, and give Link (preferably not another new one) some new challenge to face

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bite me! give me one reoson besides the stupid one that you gave! mm was awsome and majora has some hope! you said oot story was completed? becouse of mm! mm was so cool........you cant say that the privlegd to turn into a zora,goron, and a deku
I don't know what you just said, but like the original poster GamenerdAdvance said, majora's storyline is over. He's been destroyed.

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again, I don't know what you said, but skull kid is not going to return as a villain
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gannondorf was in oot right? of course he was, well majoras mask as in the legend of zelda majoras mask is a sequel to it, so basically with no majoras mask there would be no complete story to oot.Do you understand. and majoras mask was destroyed, huh? let me think how many times has gannondorf died or gotten imprisoned again huh? how many times have you heard "or at least he thought it was destroyed"?

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I don't know what you just said, but like the original poster GamenerdAdvance said, majora's storyline is over. He's been destroyed.
Yes, yes it is. But at the same time, it hasn't even begun. In other words, a MM prequel is somewhat likely, as there are a lot of things that can be explained from the origional.

EDIT: Okay, now I know what you're saying, but I still have no idea WTH you are suppost to mean. OoT's story does just fine without MM. MM, however, is very reliant on OoT to make sence.
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gannondorf was in oot right? of course he was, well majoras mask as in the legend of zelda majoras mask is a sequel to it, so basically with no majoras mask there would be no complete story to oot.Do you understand
OoT's story was complete before MM was released. Ganondorf had been dispatched in the adult timeline, and zelda and the kingdom had been warned in the child timeline. MM did nothing for OoT's storyline because it didn't mention Ganondorf at all
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Well, ok that doesn't make sence, but what about the skull kid thing?
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Yes, yes it is. But at the same time, it hasn't even begun. In other words, a MM prequel is somewhat likely, as there are a lot of things that can be explained from the origional.
But OoT is MM's prequel, so when are you talking about? Link had no adventures before he was summoned by the Great Deku Tree. Do you mean long ago in Termina before the Hero of Time was born? Either way, I don't think it's likely. Nintendo needs each new zelda to look fresh and original, not a throwback to an older title. If anything, they would make a sequel or prequel to TP, since it's their current flagship title.
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I doubt it.
Vaati came back. Who's to say others won't follow?
I can understand Zant (He just didn't make himself out to be a decent master-mind), but everyone else has a chance or returning, if you ask me.
I would personally love to se Onox and Veran returning, and Ganondorf deserves to be in a bit less games.

That is what I think, and that is all.
If they were to start bringing back these kinds of characters, they would've done so already.

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bite me! give me one reoson besides the stupid one that you gave! mm was awsome and majora has some hope! you said oot story was completed? becouse of mm! mm was so cool........you cant say that the privlegd to turn into a zora,goron, and a deku
Getting emotional are we? You seem in denial to me, desperate to defend your beloved Majora with such hostility. Why would you prefer to see rehashes instead of genuinely new ideas?

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Yeah, of course they could come back. It's not as likely but it's still possible. Why would they exist in the Zelda universe in the first place if not to be reincarnated, like the other things there?
They would exist in the Zelda Universe because they were unique ideas. Just because they were created for the Zelda universe, doesn't mean they're destined to return; it just means they one-hit wonder unique characters, and I'd like to see more "One-hit wonders" in the future.
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But OoT is MM's prequel, so when are you talking about? Link had no adventures before he was summoned by the Great Deku Tree. Do you mean long ago in Termina before the Hero of Time was born? Either way, I don't think it's likely. Nintendo needs each new zelda to look fresh and original, not a throwback to an older title. If anything, they would make a sequel or prequel to TP, since it's their current flagship title.
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Alright, I'll dumb it down for you. MAJORA'S MASK (Item) & TERMINA'S prequel, no Link involved. As in the origions of the mask and all that good stuff.
Does it make sense now?
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Alright, I'll dumb it down for you. MAJORA'S MASK (Item) & TERMINA'S prequel, no Link involved. As in the origions of the mask and all that good stuff.
Does it make sense now?
Maybe if I post what I said a second time, you'll actually read it this time:

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Do you mean long ago in Termina before the Hero of Time was born? Either way, I don't think it's likely. Nintendo needs each new zelda to look fresh and original, not a throwback to an older title. If anything, they would make a sequel or prequel to TP, since it's their current flagship title.
Or, maybe a third time might help.

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Do you mean long ago in Termina before the Hero of Time was born? Either way, I don't think it's likely. Nintendo needs each new zelda to look fresh and original, not a throwback to an older title. If anything, they would make a sequel or prequel to TP, since it's their current flagship title.
There we go.
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