What should the next main villain look like?

[Sage_of_Stars]

Main villains of Zelda games take many forms. Some are humanoid (vaati in mc). At least one is animal-like (Ganon). Some can't be classified as either (bellum). I'm wondering what the next main villain should look like. Have we had enough humanoid villains? Maybe we've had enough villains with big eyes (bellum and vaati). Please tell me what you think and why.

[Knightmare_63]

1st one to post!!!!
We meet again sage!!!!!!
I think humanoid, it makes it easier to hate, kill or understand.

[Sage_of_Stars]

I decided to pick humanoid because that allows him/her to talk and come up with elaborate plans that result in plot twists. Also, a humanoid villain could be a sorcerer.

[Knightmare_63]

Wowie.
At least some one's taking this seriously.
*imature moment*
And also, there's a chance that he could be hott......^_^

[linkdude101]

new villain {human} named Zephos.

[King KK]

Originally Posted by linkdude101

new villain {human} named Zephos.

Zephos is a frog deity from Wind Waker. lol

Humanoid. Vaati pwned. I would like to see more stuff like that, but with a bit more personality.

[xlr8]

Originally Posted by Knightmare_63

Wowie.
At least some one's taking this seriously.
*imature moment*
And also, there's a chance that he could be hott......^_^

Oh wow Knightmare, just Wow.i think humanoid. his name could be ganondork! ganondorfs twin brother who is a nerd. Hes on a v club, an a/v club and even the chess team.=>

[Sage_of_Stars]

Originally Posted by xlr81

Oh wow Knightmare, just Wow.i think humanoid. his name could be ganondork! ganondorfs twin brother who is a nerd. Hes on a v club, an a/v club and even the chess team.=>

lol. That's hilarious.

Dark Link is humanoid. Maybe he could be the next new main villain. I don't think that Nintendo uses him enough.

[Link_2_2]

I thought Bellum from PH was cinda net,but I say hemanoid.

[GamenerdAdvance]

I want them to pull a Super Paper Mario with the next villain.

Bleck in SPM was a charismatic kind of evil; sure, you're fighting against him, but he has a quite comical attitude to things. Plus he has a real motive to his actions aside from "I want to take over the world". He had depth and emotion, something they need in a Zelda villain.

[ginger17]

It should look like Ganondorf, Zant, or Majora. Well actually it should be them!

[Silentbob12]

I voted humanoid. And on top of that, it should be female. Why? Well, damn, every baddie in The Legend of Zelda series is always a male that wants to take over the world and what not, why not try something different? Like an Evil Queen from a land distant from Hyrule. An impending war in the distance. Also gives us an excuse to fight more humanoid villains other than moblins. Also, it's refreshing, and could lead to some great plot twists, devices, and what not. Like, Link is tricked by her magic, believing that she is a Queen of Peace and helps her with certain acts (gather things in dungeons) then as he finishes, boom, smack in the face and what not. Of course, these are all suggestions, cool thought though.

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Silentbob12

I voted humanoid. And on top of that, it should be female. Why? Well, damn, every baddie in The Legend of Zelda series is always a male that wants to take over the world and what not, why not try something different? Like an Evil Queen from a land distant from Hyrule. An impending war in the distance. Also gives us an excuse to fight more humanoid villains other than moblins. Also, it's refreshing, and could lead to some great plot twists, devices, and what not. Like, Link is tricked by her magic, believing that she is a Queen of Peace and helps her with certain acts (gather things in dungeons) then as he finishes, boom, smack in the face and what not. Of course, these are all suggestions, cool thought though.

not always, veran was female and one of the main antagonists of OoX, as was Twinrova

[KeeSomething]

I'd perfer a villain that doesn't have a definite form. Think about Link's Awakening; the final boss was the nightmare, but if you think of it, the entire dream was the main villain. It was a false world that consumed both Link and the Wind Fish. So, in reality, you are really fighting against the entire world/dream of Koholint Island. I think it makes a far more engading "villain", if you can even call it that, than Ganon, Vaati, Dark Link, or any other Zelda cliche.

On a side note, the Twilight was interesting in Twilight Princess because, originally, I thought that the Twilight was an entity of its own that couldn't be controlled by any real organism. I felt disappointed when I found out that Zant (or Ganondorf) were in complete control of the Twilight because it took a lot away from the mystery and evil of the Twilight. I wouldn't mind Nintendo bringing back an idea similar to the Twilight or a nightmare, but I'd really like them to build on the idea. Link vs. the universe seems far more engaging than Link vs. another cliche Ganon-like baddie.

[Silentbob12]

Originally Posted by Adam_148

not always, veran was female and one of the main antagonists of OoX, as was Twinrova

So, for a franchise that spans about twenty years and fourteen titles we've got two female villains. Twinrova was just a boss in OoT, a simple lackey for Ganon. (And in my opinion, one of the easiest bosses in OoT). Also, they hardly appeared in OoX, so Veran was the only lead female antagonist. I'll give Veran to you, but that's just one of fourteen titles only one.

Originally Posted by KeeSomething

I'd perfer a villain that doesn't have a definite form. Think about Link's Awakening; the final boss was the nightmare, but if you think of it, the entire dream was the main villain. It was a false world that consumed both Link and the Wind Fish. So, in reality, you are really fighting against the entire world/dream of Koholint Island. I think it makes a far more engading "villain", if you can even call it that, than Ganon, Vaati, Dark Link, or any other Zelda cliche.

On a side note, the Twilight was interesting in Twilight Princess because, originally, I thought that the Twilight was an entity of its own that couldn't be controlled by any real organism. I felt disappointed when I found out that Zant (or Ganondorf) were in complete control of the Twilight because it took a lot away from the mystery and evil of the Twilight. I wouldn't mind Nintendo bringing back an idea similar to the Twilight or a nightmare, but I'd really like them to build on the idea. Link vs. the universe seems far more engaging than Link vs. another cliche Ganon-like baddie.

I understand what you're saying, KeeSomething. What makes a villain "scary", for lack of a better word, is the unknown. People often wonder and fear what they don't understand. Kinda reminds me of the Silent Hill series, in which there is no main antagonist it seemed more like the town of Silent Hill was, a weird, faceless evil that can't truly be battled my physique, but my sheer will power and courage.

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by KeeSomething

I'd perfer a villain that doesn't have a definite form. Think about Link's Awakening; the final boss was the nightmare, but if you think of it, the entire dream was the main villain. It was a false world that consumed both Link and the Wind Fish. So, in reality, you are really fighting against the entire world/dream of Koholint Island. I think it makes a far more engading "villain", if you can even call it that, than Ganon, Vaati, Dark Link, or any other Zelda cliche.

On a side note, the Twilight was interesting in Twilight Princess because, originally, I thought that the Twilight was an entity of its own that couldn't be controlled by any real organism. I felt disappointed when I found out that Zant (or Ganondorf) were in complete control of the Twilight because it took a lot away from the mystery and evil of the Twilight. I wouldn't mind Nintendo bringing back an idea similar to the Twilight or a nightmare, but I'd really like them to build on the idea. Link vs. the universe seems far more engaging than Link vs. another cliche Ganon-like baddie.

To be honest, that makes Link sound like a rebel "Link against the world, is it real, or is it true?"

[KeeSomething]

It's all in the presentation, and I doubt Nintendo would ever portray Link as emo or rebelious. If you want an example of a hero against an entire world without being overdramtic or emo, look no further than Metroid. And, like I said, Link's Awakening did this too, but it a much different way. You were trying to wake the Wind Fish from the nightmare to get off the island (which happened to be the nightmare). During this time, you meet several characters that really grow on you, but they are just part of the dream that you destory in the end. Yes, it sounds emo, but the game pulled it off without even a hint of being overdramatic.

[Wyvern]

It should look like Mr. Potato Head and have a squeaky voice.

[Ryuka]

I believe we need a less obvious villain role. I'm not knocking Ganon... he's quite the evil one and serves as one of the coolest villains ever but it's time to be surprised like Majora was not a physical entity but a spiritual one with a richer plot.

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Ryuka

I believe we need a less obvious villain role. I'm not knocking Ganon... he's quite the evil one and serves as one of the coolest villains ever but it's time to be surprised like Majora was not a physical entity but a spiritual one with a richer plot.

like someone is manipulating the story from behind the scenes, and no one has a clue as to who is causing the trouble, and it turns out to be the person everyone least expected

[twilight_queen]

I think an animal and a huminoid. the animal beast could be the humanoid's pet!

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by twilight_queen

I think an animal and a huminoid. the animal beast could be the humanoid's pet!

or they could be two parts of the same humanoid/beast hybrid that became seperate, the cold calculating persona of the humanoid, with the aggresion and brute force of the beast

[Sage_of_Stars]

Originally Posted by Silentbob12

I voted humanoid. And on top of that, it should be female. Why? Well, damn, every baddie in The Legend of Zelda series is always a male that wants to take over the world and what not, why not try something different? Like an Evil Queen from a land distant from Hyrule. An impending war in the distance. Also gives us an excuse to fight more humanoid villains other than moblins. Also, it's refreshing, and could lead to some great plot twists, devices, and what not. Like, Link is tricked by her magic, believing that she is a Queen of Peace and helps her with certain acts (gather things in dungeons) then as he finishes, boom, smack in the face and what not. Of course, these are all suggestions, cool thought though.

What if there was an attractive female villain that used her looks to trick Link into doing things for her. Adding emotions would add more character to Link. If Link thought that what he was doing was good then he won't be evil. I'm not trying to make Link a pervert or anything. I'm just saying that we could see him being attracted to girls more often.

[Silentbob12]

Originally Posted by Sage_of_Stars

What if there was an attractive female villain that used her looks to trick Link into doing things for her. Adding emotions would add more character to Link. If Link thought that what he was doing was good then he won't be evil. I'm not trying to make Link a pervert or anything. I'm just saying that we could see him being attracted to girls more often.

No, it's not perverted. I understand where you're coming from with this. It's an age old concept, but it's a classic and it would work. The female villain basically puts Link under a "spell". Nothing powerful, like mind control, but impairing his judgment and, or something along those lines.

[heroman]

A gigantic monster with horns, fangs, claws, and it would have to be at least 20 feet tall.