The Future of Zelda

Does anyone agree with me when I say that there seem to be a lot of Zelda games now popping up that seem very much like cash-ins.

From Zelda 1-5 each of those games were brilliant. Then 6-7 were the Oracles. Then MM. That's Zelda 1-8 that were all really good games. But then stupid games like The Minish Cap, PH and Tingle's game have sprouted up. It seems like a mediocre, crappy series now. Even with TP's messed up storyline it seems like Nintendo are slacking off from that high-quality procedure. I don't want to see Zelda reduced to something crap.

Um loads of disagreements there
1)PH is AWESOME!!
2)TP is a very high quality game
3)The Zelda series IS NOT crap

The series has't become crap and MC and PH are not stupid. Have you even played them, both are uniqe games.

Originally Posted by Valandil

The series has't become crap and MC and PH are not stupid. Have you even played them, both are uniqe games.

^agree, but your right about tingle and LCT. I hope the serie stops with spinnoffs

Tingle and Lct both are a little weird and yah I agree STOP THE SPINOFFS.

None of you understand.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

None of you understand.

We understand. Your opinion is that Zelda games hav been going downhill, due to poor stories, spin-offs, and different designs. That however is your opinion. I have owned Minish Cap, I have played Four Sword Adventures, I own Twilight Princess. All three of those games a worthy of the Zelda name. Oh! And now that I count, your inclusion of "crappy" Zelda game includes Wind Waker, my favorite Zelda! Sir, your position is an uncommon one.

I have not played the spin-offs, but here is what I have to say about them: as long as they don't realise so many so frequently to drown the main series, they can continue. A great franchizes have spin-offs. This includes Mario, Sonic, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil. Some spin-offs eventually become almost as great as the main series itself, like Mario cart for instance.

Hmp! While most of you are judging, none of you have ever actually played Tingle's Rosy Ruppeeland have you? I didn't think so. You guys are like most internet fools, who judge games before they actually play it. If it ever hits US shores, I would be quick to pick it up.

Now back to a previous subject. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. No, they may not be as popular as Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they are crappy! They are just easier than others, and plus they are given to a spoiled, unsatistfible audience! Other than that, they are two of the best games that you can get.

From Zelda 1-5 each of those games were brilliant. Then 6-7 were the Oracles. Then MM. That's Zelda 1-8 that were all really good games. But then stupid games like The Minish Cap, PH and Tingle's game have sprouted up. It seems like a mediocre, crappy series now. Even with TP's messed up storyline it seems like Nintendo are slacking off from that high-quality procedure.

Hello! TWW, TMC, and PH are only a few of the Zelda games I own, and they rock! I'm sorry, but you seem to have several people who disagree!

I dont believe the Zelda series is going downhill in quality. Additionally, I believe that part of the success of the Nintendo sixty four titles was the time at which they were realeased, and not neccesserily because they were that much better in quality for their time than Twilight Princess or Wind Waker.

Just because something doesnt neccecerily exceed our expectations doesnt mean that it is evidence for a robust and quality consistent series going downhill.

Originally Posted by Hungry Gamer

We understand. Your opinion is that Zelda games hav been going downhill, due to poor stories, spin-offs, and different designs. That however is your opinion. I have owned Minish Cap, I have played Four Sword Adventures, I own Twilight Princess. All three of those games a worthy of the Zelda name. Oh! And now that I count, your inclusion of "crappy" Zelda game includes Wind Waker, my favorite Zelda! Sir, your position is an uncommon one.

I have not played the spin-offs, but here is what I have to say about them: as long as they don't realise so many so frequently to drown the main series, they can continue. A great franchizes have spin-offs. This includes Mario, Sonic, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil. Some spin-offs eventually become almost as great as the main series itself, like Mario cart for instance.

Hmp! While most of you are judging, none of you have ever actually played Tingle's Rosy Ruppeeland have you? I didn't think so. You guys are like most internet fools, who judge games before they actually play it. If it ever hits US shores, I would be quick to pick it up.

Now back to a previous subject. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. No, they may not be as popular as Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they are crappy! They are just easier than others, and plus they are given to a spoiled, unsatistfible audience! Other than that, they are two of the best games that you can get.

Why do you always post what I'm going to post before I post it?

Originally Posted by Rhalen

Why do you always post what I'm going to post before I post it?

Because great minds think alike!

i.ve played a lot of zelda games and let me tell you, all of them are great. the series of zelda hasen't gone down hill.

1. I never said TWW was a "crappy" game.

2. Since OoT, Zelda games haven't even been up there with it's standards. Does that tell you much about the series going downhill?

So it seems like the series is going downhill.

It's disgustingly ripping each and every good idea from the series and making new games with those ideas. It's making the content of the games less memorable. When I think of ALttP or OoT, I think of those two games clearly. When I think of TP, I think of several games... which is just messed up.

Since OoT, Zelda games haven't even been up there with it's standards. Does that tell you much about the series going downhill?

No it doesnt, because that is merely your opinion, and on top of that, you failed to back it up.

It's disgustingly ripping each and every good idea from the series and making new games with those ideas. It's making the content of the games less memorable.

The Zelda series does recycle a lot of it's ideas. That is a tradition of the series, something that has always been happening. Plus, I remember great chunks of new content in Twilight Princess. The Ooccoo, The Twili, ect. It certainly felt likne a new game to me, despite it being a spiritual sequel to Ocarina Of Time.

Also, your signiture complains about Cel shaded graphics, but at the same time you complain about a lack of new content. Wind Waker's Graphics gave it a distinctly different feel from previous Zeldas, yet it seems to be one of the games you complain about (the first game that seems to be the start of the series going downhill, according to your first post).

Right now, I see you as nothing more than a complainer, although I dont dissagree with you completely. Zelda could do with some fresh ideas, although I hardly see the need as a dire one.

Originally Posted by Hugh

No it doesnt, because that is merely your opinion, and on top of that, you failed to back it up.
The Zelda series does recycle a lot of it's ideas. That is a tradition of the series, something that has always been happening. Plus, I remember great chunks of new content in Twilight Princess. The Ooccoo, The Twili, ect. It certainly felt likne a new game to me, despite it being a spiritual sequel to Ocarina Of Time.

Also, your signiture complains about Cel shaded graphics, but at the same time you complain about a lack of new content. Wind Waker's Graphics gave it a distinctly different feel from previous Zeldas, yet it seems to be one of the games you complain about (the first game that seems to be the start of the series going downhill, according to your first post).

Right now, I see you as nothing more than a complainer, although I dont dissagree with you completely. Zelda could do with some fresh ideas, although I hardly see the need as a dire one.

Wow, you are great! I agree with you completely! It is Nintendo's right to reuse their own ideas.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

1. I never said TWW was a "crappy" game.

2. Since OoT, Zelda games haven't even been up there with it's standards. Does that tell you much about the series going downhill?

So it seems like the series is going downhill.

It's disgustingly ripping each and every good idea from the series and making new games with those ideas. It's making the content of the games less memorable. When I think of ALttP or OoT, I think of those two games clearly. When I think of TP, I think of several games... which is just messed up.

If you want to talk about a lack of original content look at OoT. Do you know how many ideas were ripped from ALttP? The three stones, the master sword, the dungeon arch-type, the sages, the mirror worlds, a LOT of the music, most of the items, the shape of the triforce, a lot of the enemies, etc

And yes, TP doesn't have a whole lot of original ideas. It wasn't supposed to. I was kind of bummed, because I was expecting the kind of originality I got with tWW, but I guess Nintendo created TP with the casual OoT fan in mind.

That being said, TP was not a bad game. It just felt like OoT 2.0, but even LESS zelda-ey.

Originally Posted by 8bit

If you want to talk about a lack of original content look at OoT. Do you know how many ideas were ripped from ALttP? The three stones, the master sword, the dungeon arch-type, the sages, the mirror worlds, a LOT of the music, most of the items, the shape of the triforce, a lot of the enemies, etc

And yes, TP doesn't have a whole lot of original ideas. It wasn't supposed to. I was kind of bummed, because I was expecting the kind of originality I got with tWW, but I guess Nintendo created TP with the casual OoT fan in mind.

That being said, TP was not a bad game. It just felt like OoT 2.0, but even LESS zelda-ey.

Ahem, Alttp 3.0.

Originally Posted by Hungry Gamer

Ahem, Alttp 3.0.

Almost, except that ALttP doesn't really have the same graphical style as OoT or TP. (Where-as AlttP graphics are much more akin to a slightly darker version of tWW, it seems)

Though, it's hard to tell being that ALttP is in 2D.

This is a prime exaple of why you should think about who your audience is and what they believe in before posting a topic.
What Ganon the King has just done is kinda like going to a PETA convention and telling them you like hunting. Insulting the zelda franchise on a zelda fan website is just stupid.

The Zelda franchise is not getting worse. With a few exceptions (AOL, FS, FSA) all of the zelda games have been an improvement over the game before it. I have not played PH, and there is no way it could be better than TP, but from what I have heard and read, it is not crap.