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Old 03-08-2008, 09:53 PM
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Well, if you insist on trying (no matter how bad an idea so many people have told you it is) I may aswell make sure it isn't a total disaster.

- Don't make such a distinction with your hylian cities having rich and poor areas is fine, but you shouldn't suddenly change. Perhaps make it 6 tiered. Upper Upper Lower Upper Upper/Lower middle, and Upper/Lower Lower. Also, put a few nasty allies/back streets in the rich area. Then have the city decline in granduer gradually. Perhaps even a section over run by gangs. Creates a nice diverse area.

-Interesting idea for the Zoras, but as we can see in some Zeldas, some Zoras aren't so civilized. Perhaps have a second set of Rouge Zoras. The sort that would attack their "more civilized" counter parts. On the other hand, the city dwelling zoras will be arrogant, and stuck up. Like higher upperclass stereotypes. And other than a marine corps, they will all be sissies.

-Gorons should definately remain set in their ways. That's the type of race they are. Perhaps have a large steam powered city for them. Built right into the mountain. Lots of gears hear and there. Perhaps a large clock in the center or something.

-Gerudos should probably stick to one fortress. They're not the type to make a real state. Just give them a large fortress with very heavy security.

Also, don't set it in the Adult timeline. Put it in the child timeline where there never was a flood. Makes the story easier.

PS: I am still opposed to a futuristic Zelda.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:16 PM
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I like that idea of annoying Zoras attacking the civilized ones. Maybe a little Zora revolt against them [the civilized Zoras] for being allied with the other races? And yeah, that is pretty much how I pictured the Gorons. How about the Gerudos are split up between the old Gerudos and the new ones?

Old Gerudos: Still against the Hylians and loyal to their secret leader (Ganondorf who is a senator or something like that in the Gerudo government). They operate secretly trying to incite another war and to bring down the new Gerudo government to return to their traditional ways.

New Gerudos: Wanting to ally themselves with the Hylians and the other races. They are trying to put down a revolution inside their own state. Ganondorf has great influence over the government and over the diplomatic relations between the Gerudos and the other races.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:41 PM
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Good good.

The Senator Ganondorf is too star wars esque. Ganondorf should openly be king of the gerudos. Perhaps he'd secretly control a "shadow army". If you watch One Piece, it's like Crocodile controlling Baroque Works. No one knows what Crocodile's real name is, but in truth he leads everyone to think he's their savior.

Keep the gerudos as one race. The zoras already have division.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:13 AM
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Re: The Futuristic Zelda thread

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Also, don't set it in the Adult timeline. Put it in the child timeline where there never was a flood. Makes the story easier.
umm, the flood was in the child timeline.
*sigh* In my belief, in WW, It shows link riding away on epona and it says he left for a new land. now, in MM, He is riding on epona, and he is going to a new land (Termina). call me crazy, but that points me towards thinking WW and PH are in the kid timeline.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:34 AM
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umm, the flood was in the child timeline.
*sigh* In my belief, in WW, It shows link riding away on epona and it says he left for a new land. now, in MM, He is riding on epona, and he is going to a new land (Termina). call me crazy, but that points me towards thinking WW and PH are in the kid timeline.
Prince, keep timeline battles out of here. Everyone has their own ideas of how the timeline goes. Even the creators of the game seem confused about it.

Anyway, Rhalen, how about the Gerudos (Ganondorf) would be helping the Zoras in their own little civil war? Eventually, a war breaks out with King Ganondorf on one end, and Zelda and Link (and anyone else on the Hyrule Kingdom side) on the the other. Ganondorf will have Gerudos and some Zoras, while Hyrule has Hylians, Gorons, and other Zoras.

Now just figuring out what brings everyone into a war...
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:52 AM
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Re: The Futuristic Zelda thread

Thank you Jandies for supporting the idea I have held so dear. And i am honored that u gave my thread as an example, altough failed. I have been gone from the forum for a while, and i see that my old thread is still in some small way bringing light to an idea that many people hate. In short Im glad that this idea is still alive.



By the way I feel like this may be a good time to mention this. Another game that many of you like did the same thing, the first six games took place in a qusi-mideval setting, and then the seveth one came out and it was extremly futuristic and it is the most popular one in the series. Can you guess what it is . It is a little series called Final Fantasy. There I said it. And i know that either 3 or 6 depending on wht version it is was futuristic but in a more industrial revelution senses.

And as for the idea of the war. It could be the newest Triforce War. But then again i have my own idea of the Futuristic Zelda Game. Maybe one day I'll post it.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:48 PM
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umm, the flood was in the child timeline.
*sigh* In my belief, in WW, It shows link riding away on epona and it says he left for a new land. now, in MM, He is riding on epona, and he is going to a new land (Termina). call me crazy, but that points me towards thinking WW and PH are in the kid timeline.
If TWW is in the child timeline, how does Ganon know of the existance of the master sword? How is he referenced as a great evil that plauged Hyrule? How are there stained glass windows of the OoT sages? How are there awakened sages that were killed and new ones reawakened? Obviously, TWW is in the adult timeline.

I know what I'm talking about when it comes to theorizing.

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Anyway, Rhalen, how about the Gerudos (Ganondorf) would be helping the Zoras in their own little civil war? Eventually, a war breaks out with King Ganondorf on one end, and Zelda and Link (and anyone else on the Hyrule Kingdom side) on the the other. Ganondorf will have Gerudos and some Zoras, while Hyrule has Hylians, Gorons, and other Zoras.

Now just figuring out what brings everyone into a war...
Ok, here's what I'm seeing:

The Zolas (bad zoras) launch an attack on the Zoras (good zoras). The Hylians go to aid the zoras. The gerudos stay neutral, but Ganondorf's shadow army (which he commands under an alias, like Crocodile being Mr. Zero of baroque works in One Piece if you watch anime) helps the Zolas.

This is where Link comes in. He's part of the army. You start the game just fighting the Zolas. Training level sort of thing. Then one night, you are sent back to Castle Town, which has fallen under attack from the shadow army. The shadow army is far too powerful, and cannot be destroyed. So rather than return to a futile battle, Link goes off on none but what is now considered a legend (an older Link killing Ganondorf with the sacred blade). People think he's crazy. He eventually gets the Master Sword. Once he has the sword, Castle Town is totally over run. The next attack is at Kakariko. The town is alerted, and Link is commanded to lead the army. (gotta love how higher ups respect the power of a legendary artifact) So then a scene of the battle. The dark lord shows himself (totally suited up in armor) Link goes right after him. Big fight, everyone else is waring all around. There ya go.

Obviously, the real thing would have to be a lot more indepth, but that's the gist of what I'm thinking.

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Thank you Jandies for supporting the idea I have held so dear. And i am honored that u gave my thread as an example, altough failed. I have been gone from the forum for a while, and i see that my old thread is still in some small way bringing light to an idea that many people hate. In short Im glad that this idea is still alive.



By the way I feel like this may be a good time to mention this. Another game that many of you like did the same thing, the first six games took place in a qusi-mideval setting, and then the seveth one came out and it was extremly futuristic and it is the most popular one in the series. Can you guess what it is . It is a little series called Final Fantasy. There I said it. And i know that either 3 or 6 depending on wht version it is was futuristic but in a more industrial revelution senses.

And as for the idea of the war. It could be the newest Triforce War. But then again i have my own idea of the Futuristic Zelda Game. Maybe one day I'll post it.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:50 PM
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Ok, here's what I'm seeing:

The Zolas (bad zoras) launch an attack on the Zoras (good zoras). The Hylians go to aid the zoras. The gerudos stay neutral, but Ganondorf's shadow army (which he commands under an alias, like Crocodile being Mr. Zero of baroque works in One Piece if you watch anime) helps the Zolas.

This is where Link comes in. He's part of the army. You start the game just fighting the Zolas. Training level sort of thing. Then one night, you are sent back to Castle Town, which has fallen under attack from the shadow army. The shadow army is far too powerful, and cannot be destroyed. So rather than return to a futile battle, Link goes off on none but what is now considered a legend (an older Link killing Ganondorf with the sacred blade). People think he's crazy. He eventually gets the Master Sword. Once he has the sword, Castle Town is totally over run. The next attack is at Kakariko. The town is alerted, and Link is commanded to lead the army. (gotta love how higher ups respect the power of a legendary artifact) So then a scene of the battle. The dark lord shows himself (totally suited up in armor) Link goes right after him. Big fight, everyone else is waring all around. There ya go.
Obviously, the real thing would have to be a lot more indepth, but that's the gist of what I'm thinking.[/QUOTE]

I really like that. Would Ganondorf kind of be using the Zola/Zora War as a distraction so he can pursue his goals (Triforce?)?

If you have read the first post in this thread you saw that I had Link living in a church and being a religious/historical kind of guy. Maybe we could do that instead of him being in the military (maybe he joins later?) so that it would explain why he goes off in search of the sword instead of fighting the war the "normal" way.

When he joins later, he would be a part of the fight to recapture Castle Town and there he kills Ganondorf. Everybody cheers, happy ending, credits roll, etc. etc...
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:18 PM
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Hmmm, I don't see Link being a religous sort. Besides, putting him in the military gives him fighing experience. If he's some priest/acolyte, I can see him know the ancient text, but he wouldn't be much of a fighter.

Meh, whatever.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:06 PM
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Ok, maybe he is one of those that have followed the story through the centuries and is very familiar with the ancient texts, and is in the military? That way it seems more of an internal battle for Link to follow his duties as a soldier, or to chance his reputation on a legend about an ancient sword. When he returns after his little quest, he joins back up with the military and fights Ganondorf.

Now everybody is happy
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or like twilight princess except instead of a horse he has a motorcycle
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If they did decided to make a Zelda game ste in the future what timeline (child/adult) do you all think it would possibly be in do you think?
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:23 PM
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If they did decided to make a Zelda game ste in the future what timeline (child/adult) do you all think it would possibly be in do you think?
In regards to the game I am talking about, I am working on this game. I am 99% sure that Nintendo will not make this type of game.

In regards to your question though, I'm not entirely sure because I don't know exactly how the timeline is supposed to work. I pictured it coming after the flood, but I guess it all depends on how the history of Hyrule needs to be written to fit the future setting they would choose.
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the new zelda will probly be a bit like zack and wiki on the wii
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the new zelda will probly be a bit like zack and wiki on the wii
That looks more like a puzzle game than an action game (or whatever you would call a Zelda game)...
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*deletes a bunch of posts* guys, back on topic. If you want to discuss disciplinary actions, feel free to PM a mod/me. I'd be more than happy to explain the decisions I made here.
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Ok, sorry. Umm, GoT started it? (jk GoT )

Anyway, I found a bunch of 3D models earlier ripped from Twilight Princess. Should I use those and make edits, or should all the models be new (fully custom)?
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Sorry if this has already been said / pointed out, but...
There's a problem with the cars / vehicles. Let's say Link is riding along the skyway. If there are other cars there, what happens if you hit one? Will both Link and *driver 2* crash in a ball of flame and then GAME OVER appears? I guess the bike could have its own health and, whenever you hit someone, you lose one. But even still, there's the aftermath.
Also, there's the realism value. Say you're running down the street, and a car / vehicle is parked. Can you destroy it? steal it? hotwire it?

While I'd love to see a Future Zelda, there are deeper problems with it. You'd have to take into account more people walking down the street - are there 0% of monsters in the street, or will there be those enemies, both creatures and humans, gunning for only you? How would peds react? Would the enemies go after them too, or simply ignore the masses to go after one man?
I want to see one, but it seems difficult. I'd love to see any betas or things that hint towards the development so far. You said you're making it, right?
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^ lol its like frogger
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Say you're running down the street, and a car / vehicle is parked. Can you destroy it? steal it? hotwire it?
GTA style + hotwiring? That way, it takes time to steal the vehicle.

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are there 0% of monsters in the street, or will there be those enemies, both creatures and humans, gunning for only you? How would peds react? Would the enemies go after them too, or simply ignore the masses to go after one man?
There will be enemies in the cities. Depending on where you are, there will be different enemies. If you are a specific target, the baddies will gun for you (ie. Ganondorf sends an assassin to kill Link...) ..or.. the baddies will attack anybody (ie. gang members could just decide to gun down everyone in a certain area. They will attack everyone until Link attacks, then he will probably be the main target)
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