The Futuristic Zelda thread

Originally Posted by JanDeis

It isn't Navi, it's N.A.V.I.

Navi is a fairy from old Hyrule where the newest technology was a clockwork mouse-bomb.
N.A.V.I. is a sophisticated turn-of-[enter futuristic century here] technology designed to help its user better interpret his/her surroundings. And when did I say it was a wristwatch?



n00b...I'll ignore that
As for the part where you say I don't know what Zelda fans are looking for...

1) I am a Zelda fan, and I know what I would like to see in games. But every gamer is different...

2) Change is good. Even radical change (especially radical change) can bring about new and interesting ideas that at first seem completely stupid, but it ends up being a good idea in the end. *waits for remark from Rhalen*

But why N.A.V.I.? Why does it have to be the same name as the original Navi?

- You are 1 Zelda fan out of many. I dont think you understand what would happen if a game like this came out. If you're gonna make a futuristic Zelda game, make it practical and be realistic about it.

Originally Posted by God of Twilight

But why N.A.V.I.? Why does it have to be the same name as the original Navi?

Because it is humorous. If you don't think it is, then go cry about it. Just giving my help system a funny name doesn't make the whole game a bad idea...

Originally Posted by God of Twilight

- You are 1 Zelda fan out of many. I dont think you understand what would happen if a game like this came out. If you're gonna make a futuristic Zelda game, make it practical and be realistic about it.

And you are just one Zelda fan out of many. And I am being "realistic" about it. Did you notice that I am thinking of a time period about 1000 years ahead of the latest technology that Zelda has ever seen? (about 600-700 years ahead of modern times)

I said "realistic" because it is a fantasy game. If you wanted Zelda to be realistic, there would be no magic or Hero of Time or an all powerful sword that kills all evil it touches now would there? Also, I am trying my best to fit the history of Hyrule into the back story so that it is apparent that this isn't just a sci-fi game with a Zelda tag. This will be Zelda in all ways except for the traditional look. The feel of the game will be different too, but it will be an easy transition (believe it or not). Bag on my idea all you like, it will be made and it will be liked (maybe not by you, but i guarantee that a nice sum of gamers will like the idea).

Originally Posted by JanDeis

Because it is humorous. If you don't think it is, then go cry about it. Just giving my help system a funny name doesn't make the whole game a bad idea...



And you are just one Zelda fan out of many. And I am being "realistic" about it. Did you notice that I am thinking of a time period about 1000 years ahead of the latest technology that Zelda has ever seen? (about 600-700 years ahead of modern times)

I said "realistic" because it is a fantasy game. If you wanted Zelda to be realistic, there would be no magic or Hero of Time or an all powerful sword that kills all evil it touches now would there? Also, I am trying my best to fit the history of Hyrule into the back story so that it is apparent that this isn't just a sci-fi game with a Zelda tag. This will be Zelda in all ways except for the traditional look. The feel of the game will be different too, but it will be an easy transition (believe it or not). Bag on my idea all you like, it will be made and it will be liked (maybe not by you, but i guarantee that a nice sum of gamers will like the idea).

I'm talking about being realistic with the way the series is. The series has ALWAYS been set in medival times, has ALWAYS included Link, has ALWAYS had dungeons, items, bosses, sidequests....and most of these are the same throughout each game. Link always uses a sword. He always collects hearts. Many enemies are the same...

So it wouldn't make sense for them(Nintendo) to, just out of the blue, make a futuristic game with completely different elements.

Originally Posted by God of Twilight

I'm talking about being realistic with the way the series is. The series has ALWAYS been set in medival times, has ALWAYS included Link, has ALWAYS had dungeons, items, bosses, sidequests....and most of these are the same throughout each game. Link always uses a sword. He always collects hearts. Many enemies are the same...

No, you are talking about keeping it traditional. But, that is the way I am. I love to break tradition because it is exciting to breathe new life into old things (like take a medieval game into the post-space age era). The setting doesn't matter for this arguement, but the others will remain there. There will be swordplay, old items or their modern version will be used, dungeons will be the main levels throughout the game, etc...

Originally Posted by God of Twilight

So it wouldn't make sense for them(Nintendo) to, just out of the blue, make a futuristic game with completely different elements.

I am making this game. I knew from the beginning that Nintendo wouldn't make it. (also, if they did, I would have to go out and buy the wii 'cause I don't have one ) And like I said just above, the elements will still be there, just in a new setting. I have tried to get companies to contemplate my game idea, but they don't listen to the gamers (no wonder there is a such thing as a bad game...). Nintendo has nothing to do with this (besides any copyright laws they have on the characters and names). This game is in essence just a fan game. But it would be the biggest fan game I've ever heard of...

Originally Posted by JanDeis

No, you are talking about keeping it traditional. But, that is the way I am. I love to break tradition because it is exciting to breathe new life into old things (like take a medieval game into the post-space age era). The setting doesn't matter for this arguement, but the others will remain there. There will be swordplay, old items or their modern version will be used, dungeons will be the main levels throughout the game, etc...



I am making this game. I knew from the beginning that Nintendo wouldn't make it. (also, if they did, I would have to go out and buy the wii 'cause I don't have one ) And like I said just above, the elements will still be there, just in a new setting. I have tried to get companies to contemplate my game idea, but they don't listen to the gamers (no wonder there is a such thing as a bad game...). Nintendo has nothing to do with this (besides any copyright laws they have on the characters and names). This game is in essence just a fan game. But it would be the biggest fan game I've ever heard of...

Oh, YOU'RE making this game....
Oh oh oh......phew......

That's a relief...
Okay then, carry on.

Originally Posted by God of Twilight

Oh, YOU'RE making this game....
Oh oh oh......phew......

That's a relief...
Okay then, carry on.

Wow. READ the topic before you waste two pages worth of posts on a pointless argument!

Still a terrible idea and what GoT said is true.

Honestly you should just make this game an original game. You already altered so much of the original story you just need to altar a few more details.

Exactly why is it a terrible idea? So far, all I've seen are people saying it's a terrible idea because "Zelda is always medieval" or something to that effect. Really, they're clinging to tradition, and JanDeis is trying to break tradition, so it's just one big circle.

Why is it such a great idea?

Originally Posted by Tazryl

Why is it such a great idea?

Why is it such a bad idea?

It is a good idea because it will be a fresh new story with surprises and excitement at every point of the game. I have already actually said this before, so just read the thread to find it...

All I keep hearing about it being a bad idea, like Haunt said, traditionalists wanting to just stay away from change. For some reason, new ideas like this scare people. That is beyond me...

Its like taking James Bond sending him a thousand years into the past. It would feel out of place and

Zelda game is set in a medieval type fantasy area. What also makes the game great is that Link has to get up and personal with the enimies. In a future setting where one has a freaking supercomputer on your wrist destroys this.

When its set in a medieval like setting its more epic. Link has only a handful of items with little to no technology and a little bit of magic.

Giving Link a Motorcycle and a N.A.V.I. and other technology gadgets just... defeats the concept. It would not have that Zelda feeling. The feeling that we are witnessing a legend being born.

Like I said its like taking James Bond and throwing him into a Zelda setting. All he would be is a guy who gets all the girls, i mean sure he has hand-to-hand combat. But he just wouldnt belong.

Just like Link would not belong in a future setting. You could have the best gameplay and story; but in the end it would fail because it does not have the epic feeling that is Zelda.

Link is the guy who relies on only the stuff on his back and his back and challenges things head on. Having some high tech computer system asking for help is just... wrong.

It just wouldnt have the feeling and just would not be zelda.

Originally Posted by Tazryl

What also makes the game great is that Link has to get up and personal with the enimies. In a future setting where one has a freaking supercomputer on your wrist destroys this.

So what you are saying is that future gadgets make it boring?

"It wouldn't be fun if we put him in the future..."
Um, if we put Link in the future, it gives a perspective of what the future of Zelda will look and feel. It will give exciting new events that have never happened before in Zelda.

Let me ask you this: If this game was ever made, would you play it?

So far all anyone has said is it doesn't belong or it just isn't right. I've heard no real arguments against this idea yet. Also, the medieval setting has nothing to do with what Zelda is. I know what I am talking about because I already know how I am going to incorporate alot of the old Zelda elements into the future setting.

Actually, I don't want anyone to really know anything really. I don't want to give away everything that my game will include, or else it won't be any fun when people go to play it. I like excitement. I'm not going to elaborate on the events that will take place in the game because that will be released along with the game itself.

*slaps forehead*

Not again! heh, this brings back some fond memories of me 'converting' to the idea that Harry might actually be a horcrux. Or was it some other contraversial topic revolving around the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows? Either way I remember I fought vividly against the idea.

*blinks* crap I rambled, but its relevent to what I am about to announce *prepares to dodge the stones*

Although I doubt this would ever happen, but I figure if done right a futurlike Zelda game could work.

It would have to be something with a general mideival feel, yet has a distinct future side. To much on the futuristic side could potentially ruin it. But if done right, yea I could see it happening.

For the most part, you are right. There is no real valid reason why it couldnt work or potentially be a great game. It just needs to be very careful in how the thing is done.

But honestly, your game does sound pretty badass. Which is more or less why I previously stated you should take this as more of a original game idea rather then a fangame.

Some ideas are great for fan made games. Others just have to much potential to be a fangame. This is one of the times where I believe this could make a great original game.

But thats my advise on the whole thing.

So I guess I am more on the idea of a futuristic Zelda as long as it is done properly

How about this. Instead of a future that is modernly technologically based... it's just a future where technology has advanced but the rest of Hyrule hasn't. I know this kind of defeats the purpose of this thread but it's still a "FUTURE" Zelda eh? Hear me out.

This game starts off with Link growing up in a Hyrule that has already been ravaged by Gannondorf or some other bad guy... and it is the future. A legend of a hero who once defeated Ganon is known but evidentally Ganon came back at a time when there was no hero to stop him. He has torn the land asunder. It is the future but not a distant one... In this story, Link must return the land to peace. In other words, starting the adventure with Ganon having essentially already won. Ganon has personally developed many technologies of his own that attack and frighten the people of Hyrule whom he has not killed yet. He has no interest in spreading technology for the good of Hyrule. Only to further destroy it. And in a later sub-plot, we can find that he visited the future through magic to learn of these technologies or something like that. Saw into the future, something... anyway...

Link is summoned in the middle of the night by a strange girl. It is the Princess Zelda. The one of his era... Ganon took over while they were only babies so although she is a Princess she lives in hiding in fear of Ganon who has killed her father. Apparently she fears Ganon is using the Triforce in some kind of technological device as a power source and that using it in this way could actually destroy everything. She tells him of the hero of time and blah blah blah and that he is a descendant of him blah blah blah.

So he sets out in a world that is already destroyed. Villages he visits are on fire, people are hiding in fear... the world Ganon has already won in.

Link will find out early on that Ganon has developed a way to go into space. Into orbit. And he has assembled a weapon there that can take out all of Hyrule in a single blow... possibly the entire planet. He will say something like "I've grown tired of this world. I have rid it of it's resources. Sucked it dry. I've won. And along the way the triforce has given me power to create all these wonderful toys. I'm far superior to you BOY!!! Not only in sheer POWER, but I've seen the future and realized it in my vision. It's time for me to rule more than just Hyrule. With this power I hold the entire UNIVERSE in my hands."

The game would be cool because it would be based on the idea of "OLD WEAPONS vs. TECHNOLOGY." Link would still use a sword and stuff, against superior weapons yielded by Ganon and his minions.

Link removes the triforce from the machine that powers the device near the end of the game which would cause it to fall back to earth... Ganon will be angry... you'll fight atop a tower of his castle while it's on fire... pieces of the machien rain down in the background on fire as they re-enter the orbit of the planet... and you fight Ganon's laser sword (he has technology remember) against Link's more traditional master sword...

It would kind of work this way. Maybe still a bad idea... but I kind of like the idea of old weapons vs. new technology and Ganon being the only one to have the advanced weapons and stuff.

In fact, I like the idea of the game being called "The Legend of Zelda: Constellations of Fate" or something along those lines...

What do you guys think?

But that isn't futuristic. Future Zelda is the name of this entire forum, not this topic. Anyways, I'm making a fan game because my original thing is set back in the Lord of the Rings era type of stuff. But my main reason I want to do a Zelda futuristic game, instead of my own unique thing, is because I want more of a challenge to get it right so that it may be accepted as a good game.

I am tired now (these letters are swimming all over the screen right now) so I will cut this short.

Okay, I've seen some spammy posts, starting somewhere around the pic of the cat licking its lips. I deleted that one. I think it's gone back to normal, so keep it that way.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

Okay, I've seen some spammy posts, starting somewhere around the pic of the cat licking its lips. I deleted that one. I think it's gone back to normal, so keep it that way.

Oh, heh.
Sorry about that Daphnes...

Well I agree 100% with Tazryl. I think he's hitting this right on.

It's not that a futuristic Zelda game would NEVER work, it's that if done the wrong way, it wouldn't.
Personally, I think you're going overboard with this idea, and as he said, you might as well create an entirely new game/series, because it's so far gone from the traditional Zelda that it's not even recognizable anymore.

I actually think Hey! Listen!'s idea was good.

Back on track to my game idea, here is the main layout of Hyrule in the future:

•The entire Hylian region is made up of cities, the major two being Kakariko and Central City (new version of Hyrule Castle Town or the Market). Hylian cities are usually two-tiered with an upper city (wealthy) and a lower city (poor).

•The Zoras have expanded from the old Zora's Domain area to also the underwater coastal area and have built underwater cities.

•The Gorons have never changed from their stone buildings, but they are still technologically advanced. Great stone and iron buildings are scattered through the mountains.

•The Gerudos have only recently united as a recognized state and have few cities. Though they are not as grand as those created by other races, Gerudo cities are heavily defended. Gerudo cities are located on the opposite side of the Great Desert from Hyrule Castle.


I've included a couple touches on the history of where everything comes from. I will elaborate on this some more:

After Ocarina of Time, the Great Flood buried the world under a vast ocean. Many years after this, the water level decreased greatly, uncovering old buildings and other artifacts that had been hidden from civilization for years.

The Gorons survived atop Death Mountain and inside of the vast underground cave system by blocking the water out with dams at cave entrances. Zoras began building their underwater cities during this time.

After the water dropped back down, the land that had been lost before was resettled by the Hylians. The Gerudos also settled on the other side of an "impassable" desert. Neither race could get anyone to survive a trip across the searing hot wasteland. With the passing years, technology developed within each race's state and they all began to communicate with each other. In what would be modern time to us, the three races, Hylians, Gorons, and Zoras, all formed an alliance. A war broke out between that alliance and the Gerudos. After the war (which lasted over 100 years) the alliance (between the three races) and the Gerudos decided to try and improve diplomatic relations with one another. The game starts here, one year after the war, where the world could either finally come together in peace, or be thrown into another war.

Originally Posted by JanDeis

But that isn't futuristic. Future Zelda is the name of this entire forum, not this topic. Anyways, I'm making a fan game because my original thing is set back in the Lord of the Rings era type of stuff. But my main reason I want to do a Zelda futuristic game, instead of my own unique thing, is because I want more of a challenge to get it right so that it may be accepted as a good game.

I am tired now (these letters are swimming all over the screen right now) so I will cut this short.

How is my idea not really "futurisitc" anyway? I mean, all of Ganon's weapons, his castle.. everything HE controls would be futurisitc. The rest of Hyrule would have to rely on old technology and weaponry against futuristic weapons they don't understand. I think it's futuristic... why would Ganon spread his technology outside of the castle town area if he is only beant on destruction and fear?

... anyway. I put a lot of thought into it. I think it's a good idea because of the concept of "old weapons and magic against Ganon's magic and technology" ... and it allows you to keep part of the Zelda we already know and love... to keep it grounded in it's roots. Thanks God of Twilight. Glad you liked my idea.