Zelda fantasy

Hi there. The purpose of this thread is that you share your Zelda fantasies, that being your Zelda dreams. Not the ones that come when your asleep, but the ones when you imagine what would make a Zelda game extraordinary for you.

Personally, TP didn´t lived up to my dreams, so I hope that Nintendo stops overhyping it´s games and actually makes them what they are supposed to be. TP was great, but not as Ninty said it was. It would have been better if TP were something smaller, but with the corresponding expectations. So I keep waiting, and dreaming of the Zelda game we were promised.

Hm...

I once thought up the idea of having a Majora's Mask 2, where the entire game takes place on the moon.

I want to see a Zelda set in Hyrule. Where Link, the king of hyrule, ganondorf and Zelda are the main characters, among others.

The races in the game are Hylians, Gorons, Zoras and the Oocca.

All the classical enemies are in the game such as stalfos, lizalfos etc.

Horse-battles are a major part of the game. Dealing in a lot of fights against other enemies, some bosses and even some small wars.

Castle Town has to be amazing. Being able to speak to tons of people - telling you about city gossip, giving you little hints, telling you good stuff,tons of questing if you find the right people, mini-games, and some people will even tell you some history about Hyrule and CT and other such things.

Also, you can ride Epona in CT like Zelda and Ganondorf could in OoT (only on the main road though).

Puzzle-solving and overall gameplay are more interactive. For example, you to open a door you turn the Wii-remote from side-to-side, to block an enmie's attack, you raise the Wii-remote so Link raises his sheild. When pulling a chain you push the Wii remote forward, then pull it back slowly.

A much better developed, original storyline. More focused on the king, Zelda, Link and Ganondorf. No triforce though. I hope there to be an interesting and mind-blowing plot involved.

Hopefully this game could take place in the world of what is ancient to OoT times. Or maybe just be a whole new game in a whole new timeline borowing places and characters and items etc. I'd like the Sheikah to be flourishing in numbers as the Hylians do, though not as many. Make their town called Kakariko, and make the Hylian town called Castle Town, though some Hylians live in Kakariko. Nice things like the windmill in Kakariko should make a return.

I'd like the plains of Hyrule to give us the similar feeling of when you walk from Kokiki Forest to Castle Town in OoT. I'd also like to see a drawbridge make a return which is raised on each side of CT at night to prevent raids from monsters, other towns etc.

I'd like the forest areas to be beautiful, mystical and surreal. Like when OoT had those little balls of shiny dust floating around everywhere in Kokiri Forest - but more of that in the forests in this new dream game. Open forests too, with massive hollow trees on the ground so it feels like massive trees have fallen. Not like in Lost Woods where they are just holes you walk through.

Link should also be magic capable. Not in the sence of casting spells and all that rif-raff, but proper magic. Like proper magic where you slow your opponent down, make your sword longer, go invisible just before your opponent hits you directly and other magic like that. I think it would improve the epicness and coolness of battles with people like Ganondorf and he should do the same.

There should be also lots of custom weapons you can make like at different blacksmiths located around Hyrule. Such as Goron smithies on Death Mountain, Hylian Smithies in Castle Town and other such locations.

I don't mind or care if this happens or not, but I think it would be good if it was finally done - a relationship of romance between Link and Zelda. If Japanese gamers heard about this, this would instantly attract them to this, since they love RPGs, or so I heard.

I'd like to see all the character's personalities and stories develop through the game so I care about them by the end - which I got from ToS in some form or another.

I don't want to see anymore trails connecting fields. I want there to be a big open field where everything is situated in. There should also be rivers flowing through Hyrule Field like there was north of CT in TP - but even better.

Death Mountain should not just be a big red and brown mountain anymore. I want to see trees, grass and snow on it too like Snowhead in MM.

I want there to be a great difficulty level not only in normal gameplay, but in fighting enemies. I want them to be agressive and actually attack. I also want them to have their own attributes.

I also want a new outfit designed for Link. Something similar to TP's outfit but even better.

I want the game to be voice-acted for all cutscenes too. And if the game was made really well, it would be awesome for the prologue and the finishing comment at the end of the game (made by Zelda).

I want all the places except for Castle Town, Lake Hylia, Death Mountain and possibly Kakariko Village to make a return. None of that Snowpeak, Zora's Domain, Zora's River or Ordon crap. I want to see lots of those forests I mentioned earlier too. Also, a nice little Milk Road thing like in MM with a ranch similar to Romani Ranch.

Gerudo Desert/Haunted Wasteland/Gerudo Valley MUST be taken out. I just never thought the desert suited the flourishing prosperious sacred land of Hyrule theme.

Trees also have to actually look proper and come in all kinds.

All backgrounds in the distance must actually look good, not just a few crappy flat things with a few trees stuck on them like it with in Lake Hylia in TP.

The Fishing Hole MUST return, with even more kinds of fish and many different sizes. Also, I want to be able to have competitions against other NPCs.

Hyrule should also be split up into three regions/provinces similar to TP. Except, people in Lanayru should refer to their land mainly has Lanayru, rather than Hyrule, to give this new game a sence that your in a very big world/country.

I'd like to see a cool thing: Where Ganondorf can turn into Ganon whenever he chooses, like a shape shifter and u see the slow transformation of it. And he'll even fight you as half and half sometimes, where he looks like both a pig and a human.

Forget the Gerudo race entirely. Just make Ganondorf a "human", with the colour os skin he usually has.

Also, lot's and lot's of side-quests like in MM. Even bring back similar looking characters to OoT/MM characters. It was done with the postmas, why not with other characters?

I want to take on a massive flying or non-flying boss on Hyrule Field... Something to remember for the rest of my life.

No Master Sword. I want to make my own swords and and collect my own materials myself.

Wow, sounds good. A little too RPG-ish, but possible.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I want to see a Zelda set in Hyrule. Where Link, the king of hyrule, ganondorf and Zelda are the main characters, among others.

I dunno, making Ganondorf a main character isn't wise in my opinion. He's better left in the shadows instead of showing up frequently.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

The races in the game are Hylians, Gorons, Zoras and the Oocca.

I'm fine with the first three, but I don't like the Oocca all that much. I'd prefer a new race instead.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

All the classical enemies are in the game such as stalfos, lizalfos etc.

Seconded, so long as there are also more than the classics.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Horse-battles are a major part of the game. Dealing in a lot of fights against other enemies, some bosses and even some small wars.

I think you mean skirmishes/battles. Fighting a small war on horseback would be tedious and likely to be fatal even at full health. But that would be cool.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Castle Town has to be amazing. Being able to speak to tons of people - telling you about city gossip, giving you little hints, telling you good stuff,tons of questing if you find the right people, mini-games, and some people will even tell you some history about Hyrule and CT and other such things.

Indeed, the Castle Town should be the Clock Town of the Wii Generation.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Also, you can ride Epona in CT like Zelda and Ganondorf could in OoT (only on the main road though).

Yes.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Puzzle-solving and overall gameplay are more interactive. For example, you to open a door you turn the Wii-remote from side-to-side, to block an enmie's attack, you raise the Wii-remote so Link raises his sheild. When pulling a chain you push the Wii remote forward, then pull it back slowly.

I don't like those three ideas, personally. Opening a door and pulling a chain are better done with a button and the using the nunchuck to move. Personally, I think that the Wiimote should be moved to control the sword, but that it should be PERFECT. TP wasn't as exact, because it wasn't built for it. Next-Zelda should be.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

A much better developed, original storyline. More focused on the king, Zelda, Link and Ganondorf. No triforce though. I hope there to be an interesting and mind-blowing plot involved.

If there's Ganondorf, I can't a single way to avoid the Triforce in some form. It should be there, but not in the Wind Waker/original sense.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Hopefully this game could take place in the world of what is ancient to OoT times. Or maybe just be a whole new game in a whole new timeline borowing places and characters and items etc. I'd like the Sheikah to be flourishing in numbers as the Hylians do, though not as many. Make their town called Kakariko, and make the Hylian town called Castle Town, though some Hylians live in Kakariko. Nice things like the windmill in Kakariko should make a return.

It can't be before OoT if you want Ganondorf (especially not ancient times) and I don't expect a retcon if they have a timeline for Zelda already.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I'd like the plains of Hyrule to give us the similar feeling of when you walk from KokiRi Forest to Castle Town in OoT. I'd also like to see a drawbridge make a return which is raised on each side of CT at night to prevent raids from monsters, other towns etc.

Definitely.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I'd like the forest areas to be beautiful, mystical and surreal. Like when OoT had those little balls of shiny dust floating around everywhere in Kokiri Forest - but more of that in the forests in this new dream game. Open forests too, with massive hollow trees on the ground so it feels like massive trees have fallen. Not like in Lost Woods where they are just holes you walk through.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Link should also be magic capable. Not in the sence of casting spells and all that rif-raff, but proper magic. Like proper magic where you slow your opponent down, make your sword longer, go invisible just before your opponent hits you directly and other magic like that. I think it would improve the epicness and coolness of battles with people like Ganondorf and he should do the same.

Um, all of what you described ARE spells. That's what magic generally is. But it would certainly be nice to have a little strategy.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

There should be also lots of custom weapons you can make like at different blacksmiths located around Hyrule. Such as Goron smithies on Death Mountain, Hylian Smithies in Castle Town and other such locations.

Personally, I wouldn't like this so much, but I can see the appeal. I don't want Zelda being turned into an FF-style RPG, I guess. I want just a few weapons, that are hard to find.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I don't mind or care if this happens or not, but I think it would be good if it was finally done - a relationship of romance between Link and Zelda. If Japanese gamers heard about this, this would instantly attract them to this, since they love RPGs, or so I heard.

It would be nice.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I'd like to see all the character's personalities and stories develop through the game so I care about them by the end - which I got from ToS in some form or another.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I don't want to see anymore trails connecting fields. I want there to be a big open field where everything is situated in. There should also be rivers flowing through Hyrule Field like there was north of CT in TP - but even better.

Seconded.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Death Mountain should not just be a big red and brown mountain anymore. I want to see trees, grass and snow on it too like Snowhead in MM.

AGreed

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I want there to be a great difficulty level not only in normal gameplay, but in fighting enemies. I want them to be agressive and actually attack. I also want them to have their own attributes.

They attack, they just don't deal damage. I say, if I'm gonna put effort into collecting between 20 and 50 heart pieces, I should have a reason to do so.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I also want a new outfit designed for Link. Something similar to TP's outfit but even better.

I don't mind some changes, but I'd much prefer it to keep the green tunic and hat style.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I want the game to be voice-acted for all cutscenes too. And if the game was made really well, it would be awesome for the prologue and the finishing comment at the end of the game (made by Zelda).

NO. NEVER. I don't mind the little gasps/grunts/screams/etc the characters have, but I don't want them to talk. One of the best things about Zelda was that I can imagine a variety of awesome voices for the characters as it is. I don't need other people to supply them.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I want all the places except for Castle Town, Lake Hylia, Death Mountain and possibly Kakariko Village to make a return. None of that Snowpeak, Zora's Domain, Zora's River or Ordon crap. I want to see lots of those forests I mentioned earlier too. Also, a nice little Milk Road thing like in MM with a ranch similar to Romani Ranch.

I think you meant "I don't want any places except for.... to return," but whatever. Personally, I think Snowpeak was a great location and you can even see mountains in OoT for where it should be. It's already been placed in two games, why remove it? Also: if you want Zora's, you need somewhere for them to live. And what's wrong with Ordon?

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Gerudo Desert/Haunted Wasteland/Gerudo Valley MUST be taken out. I just never thought the desert suited the flourishing prosperious sacred land of Hyrule theme.

I would hate to have the desert removed. I want more desert, actually.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Trees also have to actually look proper and come in all kinds.

Yeah.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

All backgrounds in the distance must actually look good, not just a few crappy flat things with a few trees stuck on them like it with in Lake Hylia in TP.

Indeed. One great background was in the desert of TP, when you look at the castle.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

The Fishing Hole MUST return, with even more kinds of fish and many different sizes. Also, I want to be able to have competitions against other NPCs.

Definitely.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Hyrule should also be split up into three regions/provinces similar to TP. Except, people in Lanayru should refer to their land mainly has Lanayru, rather than Hyrule, to give this new game a sence that your in a very big world/country.

Perhaps. I'm torn here.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I'd like to see a cool thing: Where Ganondorf can turn into Ganon whenever he chooses, like a shape shifter and u see the slow transformation of it. And he'll even fight you as half and half sometimes, where he looks like both a pig and a human.

That would be interesting.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Forget the Gerudo race entirely. Just make Ganondorf a "human", with the colour os skin he usually has.

No. Ganondorf has been a Gerudo for ages. If they want to have a timeline, they can't change details.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

Also, lot's and lot's of side-quests like in MM. Even bring back similar looking characters to OoT/MM characters. It was done with the postmas, why not with other characters?

Sidequests=good
Lookalikes=not so much. I want to see new characters with their own looks.

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

I want to take on a massive flying or non-flying boss on Hyrule Field... Something to remember for the rest of my life.

Fighting a dragon on horseback.... Good times, good times...

Originally Posted by Ganon the King

No Master Sword. I want to make my own swords and and collect my own materials myself.

The Master Sword should be there unless it's after ALttP, or Ganondorf isn't involved. Obtaining it should be better than the typical "collect three items" deal though.


As for me, I want a Zelda game that involves Ganon WITHOUT involving the typical

Collect 3 -> Master Sword -> Other things

deal. I want a Zelda with a vast world, and plenty of things to do and see. I want a Zelda where having 20 hearts doesn't equal immortality. I want a Zelda world where I can explore multiple required dungeons at once. I want a Zelda character who gets to do more than get kidnapped.

But most of all: I want to EXPLORE. That's what makes LoZ so good. Exploration.

Originally Posted by TakatoGuil

I dunno, making Ganondorf a main character isn't wise in my opinion. He's better left in the shadows instead of showing up frequently.



I'm fine with the first three, but I don't like the Oocca all that much. I'd prefer a new race instead.



Seconded, so long as there are also more than the classics.



I think you mean skirmishes/battles. Fighting a small war on horseback would be tedious and likely to be fatal even at full health. But that would be cool.



Indeed, the Castle Town should be the Clock Town of the Wii Generation.



Yes.



I don't like those three ideas, personally. Opening a door and pulling a chain are better done with a button and the using the nunchuck to move. Personally, I think that the Wiimote should be moved to control the sword, but that it should be PERFECT. TP wasn't as exact, because it wasn't built for it. Next-Zelda should be.



If there's Ganondorf, I can't a single way to avoid the Triforce in some form. It should be there, but not in the Wind Waker/original sense.



It can't be before OoT if you want Ganondorf (especially not ancient times) and I don't expect a retcon if they have a timeline for Zelda already.



Definitely.



Yes.



Um, all of what you described ARE spells. That's what magic generally is. But it would certainly be nice to have a little strategy.



Personally, I wouldn't like this so much, but I can see the appeal. I don't want Zelda being turned into an FF-style RPG, I guess. I want just a few weapons, that are hard to find.



It would be nice.



Yes.



Seconded.



AGreed



They attack, they just don't deal damage. I say, if I'm gonna put effort into collecting between 20 and 50 heart pieces, I should have a reason to do so.



I don't mind some changes, but I'd much prefer it to keep the green tunic and hat style.



NO. NEVER. I don't mind the little gasps/grunts/screams/etc the characters have, but I don't want them to talk. One of the best things about Zelda was that I can imagine a variety of awesome voices for the characters as it is. I don't need other people to supply them.



I think you meant "I don't want any places except for.... to return," but whatever. Personally, I think Snowpeak was a great location and you can even see mountains in OoT for where it should be. It's already been placed in two games, why remove it? Also: if you want Zora's, you need somewhere for them to live. And what's wrong with Ordon?



I would hate to have the desert removed. I want more desert, actually.



Yeah.



Indeed. One great background was in the desert of TP, when you look at the castle.



Definitely.



Perhaps. I'm torn here.



That would be interesting.



No. Ganondorf has been a Gerudo for ages. If they want to have a timeline, they can't change details.



Sidequests=good
Lookalikes=not so much. I want to see new characters with their own looks.



Fighting a dragon on horseback.... Good times, good times...



The Master Sword should be there unless it's after ALttP, or Ganondorf isn't involved. Obtaining it should be better than the typical "collect three items" deal though.


As for me, I want a Zelda game that involves Ganon WITHOUT involving the typical

Collect 3 -> Master Sword -> Other things

deal. I want a Zelda with a vast world, and plenty of things to do and see. I want a Zelda where having 20 hearts doesn't equal immortality. I want a Zelda world where I can explore multiple required dungeons at once. I want a Zelda character who gets to do more than get kidnapped.

But most of all: I want to EXPLORE. That's what makes LoZ so good. Exploration.

That's exactly the ways i thought. Though I think that gannondorf should be a big character as big as some one like midna.

The problem with making Ganon a big character is that you either have him confronting Link constantly, making you wonder "If this dude is so powerful, why does Farmboy win all the time?"

If you don't have him confront Link, you can have him causing chaos or developing his character. The first makes you wonder why he doesn't try to stop Link in his efforts to save the world since he's obviously a threat, and Ganon is a Sauron-type villain, not cut-out for character development without ruining what he his.

I was thinking of Zelda as a strategy game like Age of Mythology...
A lot of you disagree I know but hey, this is my idea.

I'm pretty much totally in agreement with what Ganon the King said.
Gameplay wise..if they can come up with a good number of side-quests ( not necessarily as in depth as MM but as much as possible ), and manage to balance that with a decent number of challenging enemies and dungeons..I'd be happy. I'd hope they stick with the TP style of graphics too.
Also, bring back the exploration aspect, with hidden stuff of value. Real value, like the Icerod in ALTTP.
Characters: If they can give them MM amount of depth, that would be great, but not so much that they overtake the main players.
Main Characters: Link, Zelda and the Villian. Make them get the most development ( make Zelda playable! ) and secondary characters like the KoRL are great.
Romance between Link and Zelda? Most definately. They've been hinting about it and circling around each other for years. It's about time. It would do much to strenghten the already strong bond between the two.
World: I do very much like the world of OoT/TP..if they can do it with lots of people and villages, lots of different species and memorable members of each ( Darunia, Saria etc ) that's be awesome.