Starring Dark Link

Well i was thinkking of Shadow the hedge hog and I thought, "Why not make a game starring Dark Link?...

::Added a poll::

I say no.
Dark and Shadow Link are nothing but two-dimensional enemies that Link fights from time to time in the series.
Shadow the Hedgehog was a major character in several games with his own deep, complex stories and history, and had enough in his own right to warrant a game.
Dark Link only really has a major appearance in Adventure of Link (as far as I know) where he serves as one of the main antagonistsand final Boss.

There really is no point in creating a game for a rarely-used character that has no original role, other than to provide an interesting contrast to Link.

Why would you think a game with Dark Link would be a good idea, out of interest?

This reminds me vaguely of an idea I had a while back, where Link and Dark Link are on the same side, fighting a common enemy.

But anyway, as for Dark Link having his own game...no.

I wish they would. It would be a great opportunity to add depth to the (somewhat cliche) evil twin of Link. I thought of a game idea a while back where Dark Link would go on a quest like the kind that Link goes through. Except these are darkness items.

A game where you can play as Light or Dark Link. The quest would be similar, except you're fighting light or dark based bosses, and you'd have a light or dark entity that asks for help in defeating the other.

The sidequests and dungeons would be very different, and there would be areas in the game that only one person could go through.

He could be in that kind of game, or they could put him in a game that's exclusive to him, and he's fighting beings of light that have become arrogant and stagnant in their ways. So a young warrior of Darkness must defeat them to show them the error of their ways.

I think not, Dark Link is the original Link's equal enime it wouldn't be the same and would damage the Zelda series.

One thing that went vastly wrong with the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise is that too many secondary characters were introduced, poorly used, and then subsequent spin-off games (well...game) were of extremely poor quality.
The dialogue in Shadw the Hedghog was simply cringe-worthy.
It was honestly, by far one of the worst games I've played, and the story was so incredibly nonsensical that itcame of as nothing short of dire.

Now, if there's one thing Nintendo is good at in the Zelda franchise, it's avoiding easy clichés.
By creating such a Dark Link game, they'd be perhaps delving into clichés far too much.
You could assume the reason Nintendo has not elaborated on Dark Lnk or Shadow Link is for the purpose that he's the tantalizing minor-villain, and not the main antagonist.
It keeps the character's mystique, which is something that was spoiled for the character of Shadow in Sonic.

For example, it was alluded to in SA2(B) that Shadow is a revised version of a project in the "Ultimate Lifeform" in that he is a creature specifically engineered to manipulate time and space with Chaos control.

I his spin off game, we found out that he was created from the blood of an alien overlord, in a contract with Professor Gerald, as well as bring up very cheesy and absurd concepts for his origin, which competely ruined the character.

Hopefully, Nintendo will not do the same with the Zelda series.

No, that'd be almost definately a bad idea.

In your wonderful one sentence thread starter, you mention Shadow the Hedgehog. What you've failed to realize is that Shadow the Hedgehog was a horrid game. I don't think very many fans liked that game at all, and most were extremely disappointed. Why would you want Nintendo to do the same thing with Zelda that they did to Sonic? Also, from what I remember the Shadow game had a vey small number of levels, most of which had to be completed three times, all being just like the other parallel levels. That was probably due to the fact that the only story line they had for the game had to do with Shadow wanting to find his past. Do we really want another pathetically short, boring, and repetitive Zelda game? I mean, Dark/Shadow Link is really no more then an enemy, so it doesn't even give much room to take a story out of another game to use for a new one.

In SAB2, they had Sonic, and Tails, and Knuckles to play as for the good side, and they also had the evil side of the story with Sonic, Eggman, and Rouge. From this, they probably ended up with so many people wanting to play as Shadow again that they chose to make another game. Of course, Zelda doesn't have level selection menus and it doesn't go back and forth between stories. It's always been very one sided, with Link on an adventure. Sonic set up a way to make a game with a new character, but Zelda doesn't have enough stories wound together to do that.

So no, Zelda shouldn't copy Sonic and make games based off of other characters. The story would be better if they didn't take to focus off of Link and try to split it with letting people play both the good and evil sides of the story.

okay, I see this was a horrible idea, Super decimal, would you please lock this?

Originally Posted by bladewave13

okay, I see this was a horrible idea, Super decimal, would you please lock this?

There's no real need - people disageenig should not discourage you from keeping the thread open for opinins to come in.

Are you sure you want it locked?

Dark Link is an awsome character ... but no. It wouldn't work.

I never played Shadow. Maybe it's a better idea on paper than in reality. Many ideas are.

I wish they would do more with Dark Link, though. Maybe make him a main antagonist again. In AoL, you don't even know anything about the final boss. From what I could tell from the game, Dark Link may have just been a spell that the little imp on the platform casted to keep the Triforce from you.

Originally Posted by SuperDecimal

::Added a poll::

I say no.
Dark and Shadow Link are nothing but two-dimensional enemies that Link fights from time to time in the series.
Shadow the Hedgehog was a major character in several games with his own deep, complex stories and history, and had enough in his own right to warrant a game.
Dark Link only really has a major appearance in Adventure of Link (as far as I know) where he serves as one of the main antagonistsand final Boss.

There really is no point in creating a game for a rarely-used character that has no original role, other than to provide an interesting contrast to Link.

Why would you think a game with Dark Link would be a good idea, out of interest?

You could use this same argument against tingle. They each apeared in the same number of games. Yet, who's getting his own RPG game? Perhaps link turns evil, and then kills ganondorf as dark link. Then, zelda brings you back to the light...

Actually, it sounds like a good fan-fic...

A game with more of Oni-Link would be cool.

Originally Posted by SuperDecimal

::Added a poll::

I say no.
Dark and Shadow Link are nothing but two-dimensional enemies that Link fights from time to time in the series.
Shadow the Hedgehog was a major character in several games with his own deep, complex stories and history, and had enough in his own right to warrant a game.
Dark Link only really has a major appearance in Adventure of Link (as far as I know) where he serves as one of the main antagonistsand final Boss.

There really is no point in creating a game for a rarely-used character that has no original role, other than to provide an interesting contrast to Link.

Why would you think a game with Dark Link would be a good idea, out of interest?

I agree. I enjoy fighting Dark Link but I don't really like the character himself. As SD said, he is not deep or complex enough of a character to create a good enough story for a game, especially a Zelda game.

Besides there was actually a point to the story in Shadow the Hedgehog. It was filling in cliffhangers and solving the mystery of his past because it was never resolved in SA2. There would be no story to a game with Dark Link in reference to other games they would have to make up one thta doesn't fit anywhere in the timeline or idea of things.

what about a multiplayer game where one player goes link and the other dark link. there is a wall down the middle of the map so they have to go throught a series of dungouns and chalanges to get to the other side. there would be a large room in the middle of the wall and link and dark link would fight there. the game would have a different ending depending on who won the battle.
(i know i can't spell)

Yeah, there was a Shadow the Hedgehog game, and it wasn't very good. I think a Tingle spinoff is bad enough. Dark Link should stay a random enemy that shows up from time to time and is fun to fight. We're much better off with another actual Zelda game.

This idea has come up on pretty much every single Zelda forum at least 10 times before. So I've composited my idea of how I think a "Evil Link" should be like:

So I've thought of a way to keep the Zelda traditions and elements into a new game, but also play as a bad character at the same time. I call this "Legend of Zelda: Lost Memories".

As many of you probably have noticed, it has been a tradition that Link always wakes up in the beginning of all of his games. Well that gave me an idea. What if Link got amnesia, and some Ganondorf underlings were the ones who found him. They start feeding him lies about his life so that he would help them revive their old master (and his own nemesis) without him knowing it. Link dons on a black tunic and goes on rampages throughout Hyrule. The townspeople are confused that their once hero/friend has gone over to the dark side; but Princess Zelda doesn't believe it.

The first time Link sees (sees, not meets) Zelda, he gets a headache and small glimpses from his real memory comes back...but he shrugs it off. Every time Link goes to sleep those images replay in his mind over and over again (this could tune into cutscenes are mini-games).

Now what about items/dungeons/bosses? Well here's what I thought. Gohdan (one of my favorite bosses) has always been seen as a neutral boss (neither good nor bad. He's just there to test the hero). Well I was thinking of a few dungeons that have just that: Bosses that were created to test the hero and protect a piece of a puzzle (collect all the pieces to help Ganon's revival). Near the end of the game, there are three more things needed for the ritual: #1 Triforce of Wisdom, #2 Triforce of Courage, and #3 Blood from the hero. While back at "the base", they give Link a cut to withdraw a few drops of blood, and then tell him his next mission. Link is sent off to kidnap the Princess, however after a little sneaking around the garden guards and attacks from the guards within the castle (I got that idea from OoA) Link finally meets Zelda. Link gets more headaches as memories start pouring in.

Zelda quickly opens a secret door and runs through. Link soon follows close behind and finds himself at the Master Sword Shrine, where there are four statues of Links with their swords in front of themselves, creating a barrier around the Master Sword. Zelda has lead you to the final test of the hero, to go up against the heroes of the past whom have wielded the sword of evil's bane: ALttP Link, OoT Link, TP Link, and tWW Link. Each fight won't be up against the gigantic statue, but a life size model of the hero. First he'll fight tWW Link who will use the Wind Waker (to create powerful gusts to blow you away), the Tingle Tuner (to drop bombs from above...so you'll have to watch out for that green square), Magic Armor (to protect himself sometimes), and a regular Hero's Sword (for close combat...watch out for that Parry Attack). Next would be ALttP Link who will use the Magic Cape (to turn himself completely invisible so he can easily attack you), Pegasus Boots (to run around the room dodging any of your thrown attacks like bombs and arrows as well as going in for a charge!), Magical Mirror (to temporarily send YOU into the Dark World...think of the exact same thing thing that Ganon did in FSA), and a Fighter's Sword (for close combat). After him will be OoT Adult Link who will wield his Bow & Arrows (long distant attacks), Golden Gauntlets (to slam at the ground, throw large rocks at you, and even throw you like how Mario throws Bowser), Bombchus (for mid-to-long distant attacks, it will be pretty hard to get away from these heat seeking devices) and the Big Goron Sword (for close range battle). Finally, Link will go up against TP Link who will have two forms. In his human form he wields the Ordon Sword, Hylian Shield, Gale Boomerang, and a Clawshot, while in his Wolf form, he'll have all of his wolf attacks.

After defeating all four heroes, the four Link statues will lift up their swords towards the light and break the barrier that is around the Master Sword *Take a look at the picture above*. Zelda steps forth and her Triforce of Wisdom shines, it wakes up Link's Triforce of Courage. With this, Link has regained all of his memory, and has realized what he has done while he was "asleep". He goes up to the Master Sword and pulls it out of it's pedestal (his clothes magically turn from black to green).

Darknuts storm the castle/shrine and knock both Zelda & Link unconscious, and bring them back to "the base" where the ritual will take place. Link wakes up and finds himself chained on a post along side Zelda. He sees that blood being spilt on the ashes that once was Ganondorf and watches Koume and Kotake make some kind of incantation that draws the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda and into the ashes. Link struggles and frees himself from his binds and thwarts off the minions that are around. The witches are surprised and stop the ritual...the ritual isn't complete, so they came up with a weakened Ganondorf that now possesses two Triforce pieces. The last boss fight begins, Link wins, Ganondorf is sent back to the Sacred Realm, and Link brings Zelda back home.

The ending sequence would be a sad one. Though Link was Hyrule's hero in the past, and saved the Princess at the most peril moment, his bad deeds he did while "asleep" can not be over seen. So it comes with a heavy heart that Zelda must banish Link from Hyrule.

Granted I got some of the castle/ritual idea from the Oracle games, but everything else is completely original.

Tell me what you think about that idea? Link gets a mis-identity.

-BGS

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

Tell me what you think about that idea? Link gets a mis-identity.

-BGS

Hey, Link didn't get banished after ALttP!

I'd rather have the real Dark Link. Yeah everyone says there isn't enough info to go on, but that's only because they haven't made a game that completely revolves around him yet.

All Dark Link really gets is a reaccuring miniboss in FSA. Otherwise it's just like in the first game where you don't even know anything about Ganon.

You're just running around Hyrule, trying to track down some guy that wants ultimate power, and he doesn't say a word when you finally meet him.

What if they made DL into a bad-guy-turned-good? It would kind of be like the idea I stated earlier, where you can play Light or Dark Link, only they fight together. Maybe have an item where one can call the other to use their respective items.

You know Nintendo likes the idea of giving Link partners. And they've already given us two partners who were smartalecs: Tatl and Midna. The big difference between DL and Midna would be that DL doesn't become totally righteous. He helps you out of a personal need, then splits at the end of the game while saying something along the lines of he owes you one.

The plot of the game can be that the powers of light and darkness are trying to get rid of anyone who looks like Link, due to the damage done by the two of them. They meet in some town where the forces of light and dark encounter and fight each other, then they notice "Hey, two Links!"

So the two Links have to fight their way out and do something that keeps them from being hunted down.

i like big goron swords idea nintendo should relly consider that because the ending for that relly leaves open some new ideas that havnt been tried before like i would really like to see a zelda game where link is trying to get aloud back in to hyrule

Originally Posted by bladewave13

Well i was thinkking of Shadow the hedge hog and I thought, "Why not make a game starring Dark Link?...

Shadow the Hedgehog was crap. Its just exactly the same as sonic games, but he had a gun and could drive a car. Seeing as Dark Link is just Link in a darker form, it would just be the same as other Zelda games. It could be a good game, but i think it shouldn't be done. i think they should just stick to normal Zelda games with normal Link.However, BigGoronSwords idea is good. If a game was made like that, it would have to be designed carefully however, because it is doing what Zelda has never done before. Pushing the boundaries of Zelda to new levels.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

Hey, Link didn't get banished after ALttP!

Ok, he didn't get banished after ALttP, however, it was for different reasons. In ALttP he was accused of kidnapping the princess however it was Agahimn who said Link was a Wanted Man from the Law (and if I'm not mistaken, similar Wanted Signs were shown in FSA). In my idea, Link was given a mis-identity from getting false information about his life to make him believe he's on Ganondorf's side. They are pretty different (one is the enemy is saying that he did something wrong, and the other is saying that he actually did something wrong...but then tried his best to correct himself afterwards).

You know Nintendo likes the idea of giving Link partners. And they've already given us two partners who were smartalecs: Tatl and Midna. The big difference between DL and Midna would be that DL doesn't become totally righteous. He helps you out of a personal need, then splits at the end of the game while saying something along the lines of he owes you one.

Not the same "Partner" Nintendo has been talking about. What they are talking about are partners who help you primerally for information. Old Man, Kaepora Gaebora, Navi/Tatl, Maku Trees, KoRL, Ezlo, and now Midna.

I just don't know, Link and Dark Link working together would remind me a whole lot of Prince of Persia: Two Thrones.

Originally Posted by dukunut92

i like big goron swords idea nintendo should relly consider that because the ending for that relly leaves open some new ideas that havnt been tried before like i would really like to see a zelda game where link is trying to get aloud back in to hyrule

That's sorta what I was thinking. One thing I've noticed is that all (or really most) heroes go on two adventures: One in Hyrule, and the second that takes place outside of Hyrule. If my Link gets banned from Hyrule, then maybe after saving another country (or something) Hyrule will let him back in (you know, Happily Ever After and all that jazz).

Originally Posted by The-Rotinaj

However, BigGoronSwords idea is good. If a game was made like that, it would have to be designed carefully however, because it is doing what Zelda has never done before. Pushing the boundaries of Zelda to new levels.

I'm glad that you also like my idea (thank you). I agree, it will be pushing some boundaries, but I tried my best to keep the Zelda traditions (like Link waking up...as for how he became unconscience to get amnesia, I haven't thought of that yet). I even thought of the perfect transportation steed for Link: A small flying Gyorg (like the one shown in tMC).

-BGS