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Old 03-09-2007, 06:49 PM
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Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Everybody's favorite lady thieves have survived the flood! And they've gone brunette, apparently.

I've made screencaps of the latest trailer to prove it.


A woman on a ship. Generic enough; certainly Tetra must have competition.


And here's Link fighting her. Doesn't she seem a little familiar?


Two swords? That's a very Gerudo fighting style; most of the Gerudo have twin swords in Ocarina of Time, and Ganondorf has them in The Wind Waker, when he's feeling his most patriotic. She's obviously tan, with rounded ears, two Gerudo traits. And she wears a high ponytail, like most Gerudo women do during Ocarina of Time.

So the Hyrulean Gerudo have gone pirate, like the Terminan Gerudo. Interesting!
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Old 03-09-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Interesting, I'm finaly looking forward to this game
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

I don't think they're Gerudos, they don't appear in TP and as far as i know, they're extinct or they got mixed up with the Hylians. Maybe they're pirates that use the same fighting style
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

They seem too similar to have no connection to the Gerudo; perhaps they're Gerudo/Hylian/human crossbreeds that have totally embraced their Gerudo heritage? However, if these are full-blood Gerudo, it could explain how the Gerudo survived to Four Swords Adventures.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

this is awesome
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:46 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Or it won't explain anything...because Foursword has nothing to do with the timeline. It's a damn multiplayer game with Link in it. That's it.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:48 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

The gerudo might have survived the great flood by simply fleeing hyrule before the Flood. Any gerudo under Nabooru's leadership would have been the first on Ganon's hit list. Thus, when ganon came back, they would've escaped to far across the desert, possibly to lands beyond with higher elevation. Thus, the gerudo would have survived.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

DakZhul, Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures (I assume you are referring to both of the multiplayer titles due to your use of "Foursword" instead of the actual titles) are generally considered canon stories across the fandom, included in timelines everywhere; otherwise, we'd have only one canon story about Vaati.

Zelda games with multiplayer modes are still canon; hell, Phantom Hourglass will include a multiplayer mode. Should we toss it out of canon because of that?
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

I still see posts about trying to include the four sword games I swear!
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:14 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Four sword games are canon. In FSA, it explains how ganon got his lil' blue trident. If that has nothing to do with the storyline, you might as well write off all of the 2-d games as "non-canon".
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

DakZhul, you're talking about the validity of Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures as canon, which sounds like another topic entirely.
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Add another one to your list. FS and FSA are a part of the timeline.

Anyway, this is a pretty interesting find. I'm gonna spread the word on it. Who knows, maybe the "no good band of pirates" that Tetra mentioned were the Gerudo. Hehehe.
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

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Four sword games are canon. In FSA, it explains how ganon got his lil' blue trident. If that has nothing to do with the storyline, you might as well write off all of the 2-d games as "non-canon".
I still do not count the older games either, since they are...well old. Thats the best explaination I can give.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:16 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

DakZhul, what on earth do you consider canon, then?
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Canon? Most of the gameboy Zelda games and your little off shoot titles that have Link in them. I perfer thinking the timeline as Oot>MM>TP>WW>PH....and that's basically it....like you got the serious timeline, and then you got the simply fun zelda games. I also think we're missing a title after TP...which will hopefully appear in the years to come.
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Canon? Most of the gameboy Zelda games and your little off shoot titles that have Link in them. I perfer thinking the timeline as Oot>MM>TP>WW>PH....and that's basically it....like you got the serious timeline, and then you got the simply fun zelda games. I also think we're missing a title after TP...which will hopefully appear in the years to come.
You, my good sir, are on drugs. You'd have to be one close-minded (or just plain ignorant) to consider Zelda games to not be canon simply because "they have multiplayer" or because 'their old." Oh snap, OoT's turning 10 next year! I suppose it'll be old soon, right? Are you going to cut it from the timeline? God...
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

Yeah, that's the next Wii Zelda. So you throw out the multiplayer titles and the old-school titles based on... little to nothing? That's very strange. I mean, the events of Ocarina of Time is referred to in A Link to the Past! It's canon! And you don't have any of the GB/GBA titles, only the DS one. Good grief.

But this is a different debate for a different thread. I won't veer this off topic any further.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

I like how I'm being called ignorant over having a belief about a game. That's rich. We all have our opinions, and that's mine...I'm not telling you to listen to me. Timeline or not...Nintendo will never deliver something that is clear to us, so I just basically don't try. You're a little too upset over a game, my friend...don't take it personally.

Also....what I've always thought is that LttP and Oot are basically the same game retold for a newer generation of gamers. Alot of the elements are very similar...the war in the begining of lttp is also referred to in Oot as well. Remember how Link was born during a massive war? I specifically remember a cutscene about that.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

I suggest you read a basic primer on one of the more universal timelines; I advise The Desert Colossus' explanation of their own timeline. I respect your opinion, DakZhul, but you came in and declared Four Swords Adventures not canon on your own. Please take your timeline theory to your own thread; I'd be delighted to discuss it with you there. It's far too off topic for a thread on if the Gerudo show up in Phantom Hourglass.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:35 PM
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Re: Gerudo in Phantom Hourglass?

The problem with me taking it that far, is I have no reason to honestly. I like to read others theories and give my opinion. Based on what I've seen...I know no one would agree with me, so instead of forgoing with a onslaught of punishment and critisism...I leave it to the rest of your guys to discuss. I just like to randomly show up and put in my point of view, since I don't come to this forum daily.
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