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Old 12-05-2006, 04:21 PM
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Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

Miyamoto went on record to say that Twilight Princess will be the last Zelda of its kind. Some may be discouraged about this, but you should be optimistic! Remember the leap from ALttP to OoT, maybe this will be the next revolutionary leap in the legendary series.

First, let me start off about how I think the story should go. Since OoT, all the 3D Zelda games take place after, making many referances to the events and characters in OoT. I really loved this in WW and TP since OoT is my favorite Zelda, but I really don't want to hear about anymore. That's why I think the next Zelda, Zelda Wii, should take place before Ocarina of Time during the great war. In Ocarina of Time's backstory, you hear (or assume) that [Hero of Time] Link's father died in the great war while his mother died giving him up to the Great Deku Tree in Kokiri Forest. That means, you are not Link in Zelda Wii, but his father. You may assume that his father will die at the end, but I think a cooler ending would be getting transported into another world like Termina.

Well, since Zelda Wii would take place during the Great War, you would assume that you fight many conflicts on Hyrule Field. In Twilight Princess, horse combat was improved greatly, but there is still more that can be done. Why not fight entire armies while mounted on your horse, or on foot in Hyrule field? Imagine fighting hordes of hundreds of enemies at a time! You may think it would get repetative like Dynasty Warriors, but with Zelda gameplay and items, it could be a lot of fun, and would stay fresh and improve as the game goes on. I'll get more into that later, but first I want to explain what I have in mind for the story. Here is my basic outline for the beginning of the story:

Hyrule Kingdom is receiving threats from an unknown clan of monsters, warriors, and theives (Ganon fits under that, doesn't he?). After a few attacks on Hyrule Castle, the king declares war. Meanwhile, a Hylian Knight (you), tries to protect his wife and son (Link). When a traitor discovers that your son has the mark of the Triforce on his left hand, he quickly informs this Unknown Clan. As you figured, they are kidnapped, and there your initial quest begins. Even though this happens in dramitic/emotional cutscene, you still must go on to save your kingdom from this clan as they attack soon after. You join the other Hylian Knights in battles, only to be surrounded, beaten, and left for dead in the middle of the vast land of Hyrule.

Beaten, and on the verge of death, a group rescues you and takes you to their village. This group calles themselves "Shiekah". They re-equip you with their clothing and teach you the way of their fighting art. The tunic you receive isn't the classic green one, rather, the outfit that Shiek wears in Ocarina of Time. Later in the game, when you visit Kokiri Forest, you receive the green cap, and you already have the Hylian Shield (your were a Hylian Knight) so fans woudn't be too upset with the main character not having the green tunic. Afterall, this is a new character, not another Link.

Back to the fighting style of the Shiekah, it is fast and very different. They teach you to lock-on to multiple enemies at once and unleash a devistating all-out attack. This would help a lot during wars where you are fighting hundreds of enemies at once, but of coarse, the basic sword combat would take advantage of the Wiimote, giving you 1:1 control.

Since it is 1:1, you would get the option to go into first person. Before you bite my head off, let me explain. You can always be in 3rd person if you want, but first person will help you out a lot while fighting a one-on-one duel with a "major enemy". Imagine using the Wiimote as your sword in first-person as the nuchuck would be controlled as your shield. This would make for a very deep combat system, but in FP, you can't use certain techiques liek the multiple lock-on attack or spin attack, but the accuracy in FP would be needed in certain battles. This would involve strategy, and would give Zelda that fresh, revolutionary feel that some fans have been waiting for for years.


To go back to the plot, I want it deep and emotional. Characters will die, and you will feel the pain of loss. Since Twilight Princess focused a lot on cutscenes, I'm thinking voice acting is the next logical step for the series. I think this would be the perfect game to experiment with voice acting since it is already so different. Also, all though people that don't want Link to talk would have their wish since Link is only a baby in this game, however, you (the main character, Link's father) would talk and would have his own personality. Of coarse, fans would have have high standards, so Nintendo would have to choose top-notch voice actors.

To go back to gameplay (sorry, I keep going back and forth), 3rd person would be faster and you would be able to pulls off fast and flexible attacks. I can't really explain how you would move, but think Shiek from SSBM. There would be attacks pulled off from jumping off walls. Then there would be weapons, like whips, where you will take advantage of the Wiimote by spinning the wiimote that would cause an attack like spinning a lasso around, but would hit enemies. I would also like gimmicks like in MM where you pull of flips while auto-jumping, I like things like that.

I could go on forever, but I'll give you a chance. What are your thoughs on Zelda Wii? Agree with me, dissagree, have things to add? Share it all!

UPDATE: Make sure you check out page 2 of this thread to see my explaination on how first-person sword fighting could work.
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:29 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

Cool idea. I hope the next one stay's away from OOT and changes the gameplay and story. Something like ALTTP did. Someone said it is going to be very hard to pull off 1:1 sword fighting. Good story though.

That's what I was hoping TP will do but it look's too much like OOT. The whole ( get three magic items in three temples, all with the Fire, Water, and Forest theme) then get Master Sword. ALTTP started that, it had good music and it really changed Zelda.

I also like the flexible moves idea. Link is too stiff in Zelda games. It would be a nice change.

I also want Hyrule to look like this:





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Old 12-05-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

I can't say that I want much of that to happen, although I do give you credit for taking the series in a radically different direction which is something that I'm not even willing to ponder.

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Meanwhile, a Hylian Knight (you), tries to protect his wife and son (Link). When a traitor discovers that your son has the mark of the Triforce on his left hand, he quickly informs this Unknown Clan.
The (presumably) baby Link would not have the triforce on his hand. Link does not get the triforce of courage until Ganon tries to acquire the triforce, which doesn't happen until you pull the Master Sword.
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:52 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

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The (presumably) baby Link would not have the triforce on his hand. Link does not get the triforce of courage until Ganon tries to acquire the triforce, which doesn't happen until you pull the Master Sword.
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Sh it. You're right. Well, keep the thread open, it will probably be dead after today anyways. . .
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:57 PM
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I can't say that I want much of that to happen, although I do give you credit for taking the series in a radically different direction which is something that I'm not even willing to ponder.



The (presumably) baby Link would not have the triforce on his hand. Link does not get the triforce of courage until Ganon tries to acquire the triforce, which doesn't happen until you pull the Master Sword.
Wait doesn't TP Link have it on his hand in the beggining of the game?
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

I personally want the game to be a lesser game that is a direct sequel to tp. Somthing weird and unexpected as Majora's Mask was to OoT, but at the same time totally different. I want the new game to be so new no one on this forum could graze the surface about what it will be about or like, but at time same time I want it to be Zelda.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

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Wait doesn't TP Link have it on his hand in the beggining of the game?
Yes. That doesn't prove anything.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

You said it is on his hand when he pull's the Master Sword.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:11 PM
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No. Pulling the sword is not what causes him to have it. Pulling the sword allowed Ganondorf to enter the Sacred Realm and obtain the triforce . . . at which point it split into three and the other two pieces were contained within Link and Zelda.

TP Link has it from the beginning because it was passed down to the new hero.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:20 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

Ok. So he would have to be 17 to have it on his hand? Or the Link with the Triforce on his hand would have to pass it down to his son? If it just get's passed down to the new hero, I don't know what's wrong with Link as a baby having it.
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

Because the Link from this presumed game is the same Link from OoT. The Link from OoT didn't recieve the triforce until he pulled the master sword and Ganondorf took the triforce. There's nothing wrong with Link as a baby having the triforce EXCEPT that OoT shows us that he didn't get it until the events during the first opening of the door of time. Because of this its IMPOSSIBLE for Link to have the triforce as a baby.
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:34 PM
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Well in the Oracle series it said the mark on your hand just mean's you are the "Chosen Hero". It doesn't mean you HAVE to have the Triforce for it to be on your hand.
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

I must say I like the idea. A good chance for Nintendo to experiment with other places in the genre. I dont think it would bear the name of zelda though, maybe just a small logo in the upper left, and then the big title would be something like Sheikah.

Using all you have said in a traditional Zelda game though wouldnt really fit in my opinion.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:03 PM
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The next Wii Zelda will be TP on steroids.

Seriously, if it's as good as TP, if not better, then I'm already excited! Even without even having a pic, title, or treaser trailer!
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:06 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

Rather than being extremely specific (as Kee Something was), how about answering one very vague, but crucial question. Do we want the next Zelda to be a further evolution of the current 3D Zelda system, or do we want a new direction? It goes without saying, but there are pros and cons to each.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:12 PM
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I say new direction. If the next one is like OOT again, I will be really dissapointed.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:18 PM
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Re: Zelda Wii Speculation: A New Kind of Zelda

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Rather than being extremely specific (as Kee Something was), how about answering one very vague, but crucial question. Do we want the next Zelda to be a further evolution of the current 3D Zelda system, or do we want a new direction? It goes