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Old 08-17-2006, 12:20 PM
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Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

When TP was demoed on the wii at E3, I remember hearing a lot of people saying, "TP looks better on the Wii than it did on Gamecube." The fact is the only visual "enhancement" that the wii TP version will have is that it will run in a different aspect ratio (16:9 vs 4:3). There will not be any more graphic detail on wii than GC.

I don't know if there's a thread on this, but it just seemed to me like people were just assuming that the wii version will be graphically superior to the GC version, when it won't be.
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:15 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

Actually, the zelda team are planning other graphical upgrades besides the Widescreen, probably around the lines of improved textures, more effects here and there, Both Aonuma nd Miyamoto have said that the widescreen isn't the only way they plan to graphically improve TPWii, i'm sure that the upgrade won't be astounding, sure the game will look better, but not that much better.
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:56 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

Last I heard the textures will be cleaned up some, and it'll display at higher resolution in widescreen, so the net effect will make it look better, even if it's essentially the same.
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Old 08-17-2006, 05:54 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

As for there being cleaner textures, I just haven't heard it mentioned from Nintendo (although vacuumgod may be correct that one or two nintendo higher-ups may have rumored it in the past).

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but widescreen does not increase the resolution of video games on the wii. The pixel size remains the same as that delivered from Gamecube.

IGN had this to say recently regarding the differences between wii and Gamecube TP:

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Incidentally, the only known difference between the two builds - other than new Wii-mote-enhanced controller for the Wii version, of course - is that the Wii incarnation also runs in 16x9 widescreen mode, whereas the GCN one doesn't.
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Old 08-17-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

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As for there being cleaner textures, I just haven't heard it mentioned from Nintendo (although vacuumgod may be correct that one or two nintendo higher-ups may have rumored it in the past).

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but widescreen does not increase the resolution of video games on the wii. The pixel size remains the same as that delivered from Gamecube.
Could the GCN support 480p? Because that's what the Wii version will run in, as well as in Widescreen.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:27 PM
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong but widescreen does not increase the resolution of video games on the wii. The pixel size remains the same as that delivered from Gamecube.
Widescreen and video games is a tricky subject. Some games simply use the normal 4:3 resolution, compressing the image horizontally so that when stretched to widescreen, the aspect ratio is restored, and some games actually offer a additional increase in horizontal resolution. Wii games will likely do the latter of the two, hopefully. But most games this gen who do widescreen and are only 480i, however, simply crop the top and bottom of the screen off to make the widescreen aspect ratio.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:29 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

Can the 16:9 be considered HD just a question.

And yes GDwarf is right the textures should be cleaned up a bit, and to be a bit sharper, and more stunning.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:52 PM
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Could the GCN support 480p?
Yes, some games could run at 480p on Gamecube.
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Old 08-18-2006, 08:50 AM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

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Can the 16:9 be considered HD just a question.

And yes GDwarf is right the textures should be cleaned up a bit, and to be a bit sharper, and more stunning.
No. Some people call it Enhanced Definition, but that is pretty much just a buzz word made up by companies to sell their 480p TVs.
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Old 08-18-2006, 09:52 AM
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No. Some people call it Enhanced Definition, but that is pretty much just a buzz word made up by companies to sell their 480p TVs.
No I have an HD TV, it's just my friend who has a Magnovox TV he just got.
It's flat like a Plasma screen, but the wideness of the TV is rather small.
But he has a button on remote his controller that can enhance the visual to 3:4, 4:3, and 16:9.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:11 PM
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No I have an HD TV, it's just my friend who has a Magnovox TV he just got.
It flat like a Plasma screen, but the wideness of the TV is rather small.
But he has the button his controller that can enhance the visual to 3:4, 4:3, and 16:9.
That may be a 5:4 screen, then, which can comprimise and do a little of every aspect ratio.

Though I will admit I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say....
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:36 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

I don't expect that much difference though, more like the difference that you have between the OoT on N64 and the the MasterQuest on the gamecube. At least, that's what I think.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:38 PM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

Yes, like forged reality said, it's basically like a port on a better consol than the original release.

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Old 08-19-2006, 12:02 AM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

The game is a wii game, since it isn't being mounted as a gamecube game, the memory and resources aren't being capped so the frame rate if nothing else will be much better. That is all I have to say about that. Maybe the textures will be updated and perhaps more particle effects but this game is pushing the gamecube to it's limits, not the wii. (but hey, it looks absolutely beautiful and if all wii games look that great then I couldn't care less about the ps3)
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:57 AM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

I'm also thinking that circumstances where you might see a slight drop in framerate on the GCN version, would probably not be seen when running the Wii version... I know thats not a graphical feature as such but what the hell.

Like everyone else is saying, I doubt it will make a huge difference.
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:52 AM
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Re: Wii TP does not have enhanced graphics

Most people are forgetting something when they consider this, though: the graphics don't need improvement. I honestly don't see how anyone could be disappointed with the way Twilight Princess looks right now.

Also, you're forgetting that resolution is one of the most important aspects of how a game works and is what takes up most of the processing power. For example, I'm playing TES Oblivion on my lower-end PC on the lowest resolution possible, and while it looks good my friend with a slightly better PC has it running simply on a higher resolution to great effect. The difference may not be quite so drastic, but it'll still make it look sharper. So if people said the game looked a little nicer at E3, they might not have just been seeing things.
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:44 AM
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No. Some people call it Enhanced Definition, but that is pretty much just a buzz word made up by companies to sell their 480p TVs.
To be fair, it does look much better than an interlaced picture.

I believe the Wii version of Twilight Princess will feature bloom lighting and the GameCube version won't, but I am not 100% sure of it.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:35 PM
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In fact, it will have some really improved graphics, go see my post in the last page of the Hype Thread, or more accurate, see this page... http://www.thewiire.com/news/409/1/T...lTime_Slashing
Uhhh...no where in that article did Miyamoto state that the Wii version will have enhanced graphics...sorry. If you read the article IGN posted, Miyamoto in fact states that graphics will not be enhanced because they wanted to use all of the extra development time on improving the gameplay/controls.
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Yes, yes. Forgive that. Delete the post, bla, bla, bla. I´m going again for my hammer...
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Yes, my terapeut recommended some smacking *ahem*... phsicology sesions with my "friend" the hammer, in case that twilight madness (A horrific decease that appears when waiting for TP too long and having some big cofee nights, makes you halucinate things you want to see in articles that doesn´t say anything you consciously want to hear) appears, and i deleted that awfull post. My god, i need some more phsicology sesions before posting again.
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