Wii/TP Launch Theory/Problem

Does anyone think that Nintendo put themselves is a tight spot by announcing that TP will be a launch title for the Wii. It seems that the Wii is further along than TP lol. So do you think it's possible that the Wii launch could actually be pushed back if TP isn't ready? If TP needs an extra month or two to be polished up Nintendo pretty much has to hold off with releasing the Wii because THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT LAUNCH THE WII WITHOUT TP NEXT TO IT.

Yes they can.

I doubt Nintendo will push back the Wii for TP's sake (even IF TP needs more time; which I doubt it does). They'll want to release the Wii around the same time the PS3 comes out (or before). That would be the best marketing strategy to go with.

Wii doesn't have to have TP as a launch title, it would be horrible if they did and would upset many people, but they don't have too. Although I doubt TP has many things left to do by then, they might just cut something little short, and then release it. I'm sure they know if they set them back one more time, they'll really be pushing their luck.

Why do you continue to beleive that TP is not close to being done?

Look at the progress made between november of 2005 and E3 of 2006, aonuma has been working his team till they croak with this title, If we can have a quality mario title, and a quality metroid title on the Wii launch, then we can surely have a quality port of Zelda, zelda isn't even a true Wii game, it's a GC game with some Wii gimmicks.

The only reason TP is on the Wii launch is because nintendo would not want to advertise for an old generation consol while simultaneously trying to advertise the launch of their new consol, they would be going two steps foward, one step back.

TP is not the reason why Wii will sell, if there is a worst case scenario, and TP is delayed for another month, the wii will still launch, TP is really the last game on nintendo's mind when it comes to Wii launch titles simply becuase TP isn't actually a true wii game.

Originally Posted by vacumgod

Why do you continue to beleive that TP is not close to being done?

Look at the progress made between november of 2005 and E3 of 2006, aonuma has been working his team till they croak with this title, If we can have a quality mario title, and a quality metroid title on the Wii launch, then we can surely have a quality port of Zelda, zelda isn't even a true Wii game, it's a GC game with some Wii gimmicks.

The only reason TP is on the Wii launch is because nintendo would not want to advertise for an old generation consol while simultaneously trying to advertise the launch of their new consol, they would be going two steps foward, one step back.

TP is not the reason why Wii will sell, if there is a worst case scenario, and TP is delayed for another month, the wii will still launch, TP is really the last game on nintendo's mind when it comes to Wii launch titles simply becuase TP isn't actually a true wii game.

I just don't think it's close to being done. From all these inside zelda articles with Nintendo Power AND NINTENDO'S LIFELONG HISTORY OF DELAYS AND WAY-TOO-LONG DEVELOPMENT CYCLES, i'm just always thinking that it might get delayed again. Usually publishers announce the release dates for their games at least a few months in advance. Are you seriously telling me that Nintendo is going to give us the release date of the Wii and TP in September and than most likely it will be released in November? Only two months notice before release? I don't think so.

BY THE WAY WHAT QUALITY MARIO TITLE IS A WII LAUNCH TITLE? I'M PRETTY SURE THAT GALAXY IS NOT GOING TO BE A LAUNCH TITLE AND IF YOU THINK IT IS THAN YOUR SADLY MISTAKEN.

They announced it. Q4 '06. They'll be more specific when they want to.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

They announced it. Q4 '06. They'll be more specific when they want to.

I don't care what they announced. In 2005 they announced it was coming out in November and then they delayed it. So announcements mean nothing to me. And that last sentence absolutely frightens me...when they want to be specific lol? Nintendo??? Come on we all know Nintendo better than tha....THEY SUFFER FROM A DISEASE CALLED DELAYS AND WAY-TOO-LONG DEVELOPMENT CYCLES.

Twilight Prince, you're starting to sound like someone who really wants to be part of a flame war. Every thread you start, you end up yelling (caps is interpreted as yelling) at someone or other who does not agree with you.

The thing is, Nintendo would not shirk from releasing TP on the same day as Wii. They have never given us a precise date, but the launch title part of it all is pretty precise, and getting closer. I do agree that when Nintendo gives us Quarters, like Q4, they are giving a vague estimate, but with the Wii launch they made the decision to say it, which means they must have had good reason to give us that time.

Basically, they know the game will be ready by the time the Wii launches.

Originally Posted by TwilightPrince1

I don't care what they announced. In 2005 they announced it was coming out in November and then they delayed it.

Actually, in 2005 they announced it would be coming out in Summer '06. As it turns out, much of '06 was devoted to the development of the Wii, which, in turn, distracted attention and monies from the development of TP. It's essentially poor planning. They started production on a next-gen console while in the middle of producing a blockbuster game. The console will always take precedence over the game. TP's development took a hit as a result, and they took the time to retrofit it for the Wii, and pushed back the release date about 3 or 4 months.

All other "release dates" are rumors.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

Actually, in 2005 they announced it would be coming out in Summer '06. As it turns out, much of '06 was devoted to the development of the Wii, which, in turn, distracted attention and monies from the development of TP. It's essentially poor planning. They started production on a next-gen console while in the middle of producing a blockbuster game. The console will always take precedence over the game. TP's development took a hit as a result, and they took the time to retrofit it for the Wii, and pushed back the release date about 3 or 4 months.

All other "release dates" are rumors.

Programmers don't make consoles, engineers do, it isn't as if the programmers were told to stop working while they developed the wii. The truth is that there is a section of Nintendo whose job is to design hardware, some of it gets produced, some of it stays as ideas. Nintendo probably came out with many Gamecube expansions that were to use the serial port before they decided to scrap that and come out with a new console. They also probably went through a bunch of designs ranging from large powerhouse consoles to rival the xbox 360 and ps3 but then decided to go the cheaper way. The development team said that they were no where near completion when the November launch date was revealed but Nintendo released that date anyways to make people more excited.

Originally Posted by TwilightPrince1

Are you seriously telling me that Nintendo is going to give us the release date of the Wii and TP in September and than most likely it will be released in November? Only two months notice before release? I don't think so.

We were told that we should know the release date by September not necassarilly in September. There could be a big announcement tommorrow for all we know. In fact I expect one sometime this coming month...hopefully.

Do you really think nintendo has not finished a one of the most anticapated games of the new millenium, after it has been delayed for a year? do you think they have farmer bob and his crazy cousin working on this game do you? no nintendo will have this game ready, even if its not fully completed yet, they still have 2-4 months to work on what should be just minor bugs, and things.
BTW, what makes you think its not even close to being done? they said in EGM it was 80% complete.

Originally Posted by TwilightPrince1

I don't care what they announced. In 2005 they announced it was coming out in November and then they delayed it. So announcements mean nothing to me. And that last sentence absolutely frightens me...when they want to be specific lol? Nintendo??? Come on we all know Nintendo better than tha....THEY SUFFER FROM A DISEASE CALLED DELAYS AND WAY-TOO-LONG DEVELOPMENT CYCLES.

Hey there's a thing called caps lock, you suffer from that. It's under the tab button to the left of the a button, and on top of the shift button. Can you do all of us a favor and tap it? thanks
Also they never annouced it was coming out in november, in fact they were very mysterous about when it was coming out. Giving a cloudy fallish release date, and not releasing anything since the E3 of that year.
One more thing that makes me think that their close to being done, did you see the town screenshots when it was delayed, all the clones, fazey backgrounds, and the blanteness of it? then did you see the town in the E3 06 trailer, no clones, everyone was alive, the background and textures were much better.
My friend TP will come out on time, trust me.

First off to the guy that said Wii production interfered with TP's development...this is so not true. Nintendo has a hardware staff that works on the consoles. Aonuma and Miyamoto...while they have say on the consoles mostly deal with software...Miyamoto is probably more involved with the hardware than Aonuma is. But trust me that TP's development staff were not distracted with the Wii production.

This goes to AndyZX...Nintendo at first said they would reveal the Wii price/release BY september but than in another press release changed that to IN September. That information will not be released in August...definately don't count on that.

Originally Posted by dmitric300

Programmers don't make consoles, engineers do, it isn't as if the programmers were told to stop working while they developed the wii.

Money makes consoles and games, and when there is a console and a game to be made, the console will take precedent. I never said it was a split in the development TEAM--I said it was a split in development RESOURCES.

Originally Posted by TwilightPrince1

This goes to AndyZX...Nintendo at first said they would reveal the Wii price/release BY september but than in another press release changed that to IN September. That information will not be released in August...definately don't count on that.

I never saw that follow up info. You wouldn't happen to remember where you saw it, would you?

Originally Posted by AndyZX

I never saw that follow up info. You wouldn't happen to remember where you saw it, would you?

Unfortunately I do not have link to provide to you. I think it was IGN where I saw that. I definately do remember seeing it though.

I really don't think that TP would be delayed again. They managed to woo us with those fancy trailers back in 2004, and that was almost two years ago. Another delay would push the game ever so closer to claiming the distinctive title of vaporware. Really, I dobut that Nintendo, after whetting so many Zelda fans' appetites for this game, would make it go vaporware on us, especially at this time, the advent of the next gen era. Nintendo wouldn't do something that would make their most lucrative franchise lose its flavor like that. And besides, if Nintendo fails, who else would we turn to? Sony?

Originally Posted by TwilightPrince1

But trust me that TP's development staff were not distracted with the Wii production.

...yes they were/are, simply because there going to be a Wii version of TP, therefore the development team is distracted by the Wii.

Originally Posted by Twilightprince1

I just don't think it's close to being done. From all these inside zelda articles with Nintendo Power AND NINTENDO'S LIFELONG HISTORY OF DELAYS AND WAY-TOO-LONG DEVELOPMENT CYCLES, i'm just always thinking that it might get delayed again. Usually publishers announce the release dates for their games at least a few months in advance. Are you seriously telling me that Nintendo is going to give us the release date of the Wii and TP in September and than most likely it will be released in November? Only two months notice before release? I don't think so.

BY THE WAY WHAT QUALITY MARIO TITLE IS A WII LAUNCH TITLE? I'M PRETTY SURE THAT GALAXY IS NOT GOING TO BE A LAUNCH TITLE AND IF YOU THINK IT IS THAN YOUR SADLY MISTAKEN.

1. Articles with the development staff of zelda conducted by nintendo power haven't given any ounce of proof that TP is going to miss the deadline.

2. Nintendo is not the only development company that has a long history of delays with quality games.

3. Publishers announce their release dates when they want too, there have been games that have had there release date announced the month before it is released, some companies give us release dates 6 months before it's release, there is no standard.

4. And yes, I certainly am telling you that in september the Wii launch date will be released, and then release it in october. It can, has, and will be done.
Imagine, nintendo tells us the Wii to be released october 12th or so, then a day later, after the conference, a multitude of commercials pop up about the Wii, magazines having 2 or more pages dedicated to the Wii, billboards popping up everywhere. And these strange new Wii kiosks showing up at your local department and video game stores.
News of the Wii won't be gradual like the Tide, it will hit us like a giant wave, the kind of wave you can surf and enjoy. The Wii will hit us like a wave, and nitnendo will give us the oppurotunity to ride the wave until the release.
Imagine someone asking when this fantastic consol will be released and the store manager simply replied "oh in like.... a week" Short waits for awesome products = consumer happiness.

5. Stop yelling, I now believe you to be an immature stubborn 14 year old. No, don't take that as an insult, thats simply how you are acting, it's your own fault my opinion may seem offensive to you.

Originally Posted by vacumgod

...yes they were/are, simply because there going to be a Wii version of TP, therefore the development team is distracted by the Wii.



1. Articles with the development staff of zelda conducted by nintendo power haven't given any ounce of proof that TP is going to miss the deadline.

2. Nintendo is not the only development company that has a long history of delays with quality games.

3. Publishers announce their release dates when they want too, there have been games that have had there release date announced the month before it is released, some companies give us release dates 6 months before it's release, there is no standard.

4. And yes, I certainly am telling you that in september the Wii launch date will be released, and then release it in october. It can, has, and will be done.
Imagine, nintendo tells us the Wii to be released october 12th or so, then a day later, after the conference, a multitude of commercials pop up about the Wii, magazines having 2 or more pages dedicated to the Wii, billboards popping up everywhere. And these strange new Wii kiosks showing up at your local department and video game stores.
News of the Wii won't be gradual like the Tide, it will hit us like a giant wave, the kind of wave you can surf and enjoy. The Wii will hit us like a wave, and nitnendo will give us the oppurotunity to ride the wave until the release.
Imagine someone asking when this fantastic consol will be released and the store manager simply replied "oh in like.... a week" Short waits for awesome products = consumer happiness.

5. Stop yelling, I now believe you to be an immature stubborn 14 year old. No, don't take that as an insult, thats simply how you are acting, it's your own fault my opinion may seem offensive to you.

First of all i'm not 14...much older than that. And I agree with you that TP/Wii release dates will be unveiled IN September. I was just saying not BEFORE September. But I don't expect the announcement to come until the last week of September when the Fusion tour starts. Even if Nintendo participates at the TGS thats not until September 22 so don't expect the announcement to come until the end of the month.

Nintendo is not the only company known for delays...you are right. But the difference is Nintendo is NOTORIOUS for delays. Delay is their middle name. Just for the record, GTA IV has an OFFICIAL release date for october 16th of 2007. Thats giving their fans a year in advance notice...thats loyalty to the consumers. And rockstar will meet that deadline you can bank on it.