Twilight Princess for the Revolution

Right, before you all start chasing me with flaming torches and pitchforks, please hear me out. Let me state first that this is not factual information, just my well educated opinion. We've all been waiting eagerly for Twilight Princess for what seems like forever now and this is proabably the last thing you want to hear, myself included. Right, As we all know (lets be honest now) the GameCube is slowly becoming extinct, any local video game retailer can show us that, Nintendo itself is even becoming more and more revolution focused latley, especially with the fast approaching E3.
Does it make sense for nintendo to release sutch a highly anticipated Project for the gamecube? or would it make more sense to release it as a launch title for the revolution? right now the mainstream public is more concerned with prettier looking games than what we know to an actual better game. and with next gen already upon us i'm afraid to say twilight princess is loosing interest, and all these delays don't help either.
Let me ask you a question. When was the last time nintendo officially released any media on TP? Back in August wasn't it? right when the told us it would be pushed back into 2006. so... nothing since august. you think if they wanted to keep us interested in the game the would occasionaly release a few pics, but they havn't.
Why would they go sutch a long period of time without releaseing any media on one of its most anticipated titles? they even avoided showing anything on it at the GDC. why all the secrecy and delays. theres a reason they keep pushing it so close to the launch of their next gen console. i think the reason for sutch a drastic delay is because they decided Back in August that TP needs a major overhall, not only control wise but 'graphically' too.
I've read of the similaritys between the the gamecubes and revolutions chips and how developers would find the transition reletivley easy, so i'm Guessing sutch a move over wouldn't be too great a feat.
It makes so mutch sense from the companys standpoint, imagine having this little gem launch as a next gen title, they've done it with Tomb Raider, releasing an ungraded version for the 360. I think they will still release a version for the gamecube, but i think (and nintendo knows this) that the big sales will come from releasing this as a shiny new next gen title. as i said, its too big a game to let slip by on their last console, they have an opportunity here to make an unsurpassible launch lineup. With E3 coming up and alot of Great looking games about to be revealed on competing consoles, TP runs the risk of being over shadowed, even if it is a better game.
i'm going out on a limb here and i could be completley wrong, but i think we can expect Twilight Princess to make the leap to next gen at the upcoming E3. i think this game is too important to nintendo to be over shadowed and forgotten when a bunch of mediocre next gen titles release for the 360 & PS3. this would be a very aggressive and smart menouvere on nintendos part. comon people, lets put the pieces of the puzzle together.
So, what do you (the true zelda fans) think about my bold statement? i value your opinions, weather you agree with me or disagree.

I've heard that it would be on both systems with special features on the Rev version

yeah, i've heard that too. i think they know alot of people are wanting play it on the gamecube, but i dont think it could get as mutch coverage as it could if it were to launch along side the rev.

Originally Posted by jessehimself

yeah, i've heard that too. i think they know alot of people are wanting play it on the gamecube, but i dont think it could get as mutch coverage as it could if it were to launch along side the rev.

I'd rather play it on my cube, as would mostly everyone else probably.

We have yet to see how Zelda would work on Revolution, but I don't wanna risk finding out. I'm far too comfortable with Zelda's current mechanics, and I don't wanna play this hyped game I've been waiting so long for on a new system. I like the idea of it being used with the revolution, but I'm definately gonna keep it to my cube.

I won't be the last to admit that it does make sense. But, as you've stated, I'm not looking forward to such a possibility. All those times that the big guns of the Zelda crew have said "TP is a GCN title!" ...Man, I'd be marginally miffed if they pushed it forward to the Rev. "Why only marginally?" you ask? Well, I've actually lost a lot of interest in TP. But that's not the point. As many times as the crew has stated that they will be releasing it as a GCN title, going back on their word now would garner quite a bit of hostility from the fans. Is that something they can afford when the Revolution is receiving such a wide array of responses?

Originally Posted by jessehimself

Back in August that TP needs a major overhall, not only control wise but 'graphically' too.

Right, for all we know, they could be adapting it into a Wind Waker style again. I hope that doesn't happen (although I loved the style of WW) I think the current 'look' has awesome potential. With an extra year of development into it, one can only guess at how good things are looking by now!

I'm hoping that (I know it sounds a tad ridicoulous) nintendo will release 2 versions of TP, 1 as the gamecube title we all want dearly to be released in september, and then include TP again, but with sharper and superior graphics as well as revo sword play as a Revolution bundle, say 20 bucks more. It's a decent bundle, and well, people love zelda.

Originally Posted by Wielder of the Sword

I won't be the last to admit that it does make sense. But, as you've stated, I'm not looking forward to such a possibility. All those times that the big guns of the Zelda crew have said "TP is a GCN title!" ...Man, I'd be marginally miffed if they pushed it forward to the Rev. "Why only marginally?" you ask? Well, I've actually lost a lot of interest in TP. But that's not the point. As many times as the crew has stated that they will be releasing it as a GCN title, going back on their word now would garner quite a bit of hostility from the fans. Is that something they can afford when the Revolution is receiving such a wide array of responses?

I've lost a lot of interest in TP as well over the past while, but I've been waiting to play this on the cube, with the mechanics I've been using since WW. As fun as it may be on the revolution, I'm not gonna bother playing this future masterpiece on a new system with much bigger differences from the system it was meant for.

yeah, you're right. i would love to play it on my cube right now. but it makes no sense to release it right now for the gamecube only for it to beforgotten about in the next few months. remember the company doesn't always do what we want them to do, more like they do what benifits the company in the long run. i'm not saying they aren't going to release for the cube.

Originally Posted by Mystic Link

I've lost a lot of interest in TP as well over the past while, but I've been waiting to play this on the cube, with the mechanics I've been using since WW. As fun as it may be on the revolution, I'm not gonna bother playing this future masterpiece on a new system with much bigger differences from the system it was meant for.

what does the mainstream gamer want? do they want to play it on the standard controller or do they want to use the rev controller? i was once extremely excited about this game myself but the lack of info has really been a downer. what better way to rekindle the sparks then to release an undated version for the rev.

Originally Posted by jessehimself

yeah, you're right. i would love to play it on my cube right now. but it makes no sense to release it right now for the gamecube only for it to beforgotten about in the next few months. remember the company doesn't always do what we want them to do, more like they do what benifits the company in the long run. i'm not saying they aren't going to release for the cube.

I agree the system is in its dying moments right now, and that the game will most likely be overshadowed, but that's Nintendo's fault. True what Miyamoto says, "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever".

But this is utterly ridiculous... We see first sight of the game May 2004. The developpers confirmed playable demos at E3 2005, which they gave us and mentioned a holiday 2005 release. Then it gets delayed in August 2005 til sometime past Nintendo's fiscal year (knowhere before April), in which most people figured an April release. THEN another delay comes, and now we're waiting until Fall 2006.

That's a long shift, and as I said a delayed game makes for the best, you have to notice Nintendo's really sturring up some bullshyt with their releases. They're developping far too slowly and their desirable releases are inconsistently making their debut at the right time.

Nintendo, in my opinion, is not the company it used to be 10 years ago. They've really gotta get their work going or else they will die in the end.

So again, even though it's gonna be primarily released for the cube, I'm sure most dedicated fans would rather play it on the system it was meant for rather than the newly untested one. Others who still want the game but have probably dumped their cube already can still play it, but they aren't gonna have the same experience.

Again, it's either Nintendo's fault for inconsistent development, or its the consumer's fault for tossing a side their cube without the patience to wait for the game.

Originally Posted by jessehimself

what does the mainstream gamer want? do they want to play it on the standard controller or do they want to use the rev controller? i was once extremely excited about this game myself but the lack of info has really been a downer. what better way to rekindle the sparks then to release an undated version for the rev.

Again, the mechanics for the rev is untested to the public. If I can somehow see the game on a rev version I'd change my mind probably, but I was prepared to play this game with the mechanics I've loved since the OOT days. It's what the game was originally made with, and I intend to finish it that way... with this game.

But this is utterly ridiculous... We see first sight of the game May 2004. The developpers confirmed playable demos at E3 2005, which they gave us and mentioned a holiday 2005 release. Then it gets delayed in August 2005 til sometime past Nintendo's fiscal year (knowhere before April), in which most people figured an April release. THEN another delay comes, and now we're waiting until Fall 2006.

quite right, delay after delay after delay. you gotta ask yourself why? they're pushing it closer and closer to the launch of the rev.

Again, the mechanics for the rev is untested to the public. If I can somehow see the game on a rev version I'd change my mind probably, but I was prepared to play this game with the mechanics I've loved since the OOT days. It's what the game was originally made with, and I intend to finish it that way... with this game.[/quote]

remember nintendo is trying to get alot of gamers that have never played games before, i think the prospect of playing this game with an interesting controller if offered at launch would be a good one. i think there comes a time when we have to look past our own needs, its easy to say i want to play this game right now, i dont care if its using the controller or not. the bottom line is nintendo dosn't really care. they won't lose any sleep if dedicated zelda fans have to wait longer. they need to make a big splash with this game and not just release it for the zelda fan community.

there are too many statements by big names to believe this concept. It could be smart, but it basically is a rev. launch title. It will already be owned when the rev comes out, so people will automatically have a game to play on with fresh material.

However, I wont play TP on the rev when I buy it, I will probably buy a new game to play first....obviously

Originally Posted by jessehimself

But this is utterly ridiculous... We see first sight of the game May 2004. The developpers confirmed playable demos at E3 2005, which they gave us and mentioned a holiday 2005 release. Then it gets delayed in August 2005 til sometime past Nintendo's fiscal year (knowhere before April), in which most people figured an April release. THEN another delay comes, and now we're waiting until Fall 2006.

quite right, delay after delay after delay. you gotta ask yourself why? they're pushing it closer and closer to the launch of the rev.

Again, the mechanics for the rev is untested to the public. If I can somehow see the game on a rev version I'd change my mind probably, but I was prepared to play this game with the mechanics I've loved since the OOT days. It's what the game was originally made with, and I intend to finish it that way... with this game.

Originally Posted by jessehimself

remember nintendo is trying to get alot of gamers that have never played games before, i think the prospect of playing this game with an interesting controller if offered at launch would be a good one. i think there comes a time when we have to look past our own needs, its easy to say i want to play this game right now, i dont care if its using the controller or not. the bottom line is nintendo dosn't really care. they won't lose any sleep if dedicated zelda fans have to wait longer. they need to make a big splash with this game and not just release it for the zelda fan community.

I realize that, it's just my personal taste to stick to the cube when playing TP.

And to be honest, I'm not very fond of the idea of using the rev control for most gaming genres out there, one being a fighter game (Smash bros anyone?). Infact the only genre I could see the controller making the biggest impact is ovbiously an FPS.

I can't imagine how it could work with TP and come out succesfully. What is it? You move the controller and Link swings the sword? Are we still gonna have to rely on targeting? Or is it going into a 1st person view to kill the enemies? Not something I'd like to see...

Plus there's a little problem with the idea... Unless you wanna see Link swinging his sword in inverted horizontal directions, you guys better practice using that controller with your left hands Let's not forget Link is a lefty.

Originally Posted by Jamie

there are too many statements by big names to believe this concept. It could be smart, but it basically is a rev. launch title. It will already be owned when the rev comes out, so people will automatically have a game to play on with fresh material.

However, I wont play TP on the rev when I buy it, I will probably buy a new game to play first....obviously

thats a fair statement, but what about the people who don't own it already, who didn't own a gamecube before, they dont know that zelda is an amazing game. nintendo is trying to reach a whole lot more people this time around, unfortunatley those people need added adcentive to by this game. a visual upgrade isn't the biggest set back in the world to this company. if they want to market this as a next gen and get people to buy it, they need to ungrade the visuals. rememeber their auduience is bigger than us (the people who know abut this game).

Originally Posted by jessehimself

what does the mainstream gamer want? do they want to play it on the standard controller or do they want to use the rev controller? i was once extremely excited about this game myself but the lack of info has really been a downer. what better way to rekindle the sparks then to release an undated version for the rev.

See, there's a problem there. The general public is very iffy about the Revolution controller. I even heard one person (not saying any names) say: "Peripherals do not sell a console, and they never will!" As you can see, the public reaction is...somewhat biased toward conventional gaming. I welcome the change with open arms, and see the Revolution not as a break from the ordinary but as a step closer to what video games should be. I get the feeling everyone else who's posted in this thread so far feels the same way. But the general populace doesn't.