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Old 04-17-2006, 04:33 PM
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Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

I was just wondering about the use of puzzles between the Normal/Twilight realms. I was thinking along the lines of Metroid Prime 2's brilliant puzzles, if you have it. The two worlds probably won't interface as much as MP2 (ie when you cange somwthing in one world, it changes in the other, making great puzzles) but I was thinking of something similier to that, or ALTTP.

Or mabe you think they'll have nothing/litte to do with one another, just like seperate areas. One last thought: Perhaps if you *beat* an area infected with the Twilight, it'll turn normal allowing for further access and the people will turn back from animals to hylians, gorons etc. Give me your thoughts.
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:38 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

People don't become animals. Only Link, and that is due to a special gift.

Sorry 'bout that part.
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

Oh sorry I thought people turned into animals, my bad. On a side note people in ALTTP turned into animals, remember the good old 'bunny' Link aaaah . Yeah the wolf is a darn site better than a rabbit.
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:42 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

I do believe there will be puzzles, especially concerning animals. I'm not sure if TP will have dimension puzzles, but I'm highly positive that it will. It'd be interesting to see what ideas that Nintendo will make up. Hopefully Nintendo won't copy from ALttP TOO much, and also not to make TOO many dimension puzzles as well. I defiantly have high expectations that hopefully won't be brought down.

Yes. I do think that the further you progress and push back the Twilight from the source, the more people will turn back into normal, and continue to go on their lives.
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:48 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

How come zeldafanplus sais people don't turn into animals and dark link sais they do. Who's right? I'm not sure. Does anyone have any confirmation links/interviews?
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

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How come zeldafanplus sais people don't turn into animals and dark link sais they do. Who's right? I'm not sure. Does anyone have any confirmation links/interviews?
I don't think it's been confirmed. Whoever enters the Twilight Realm, their appearance is supposed to affect their personality (Link=Wolf). I don't see why couldn't other characters in the game do the same thing, and just Link? If not, then what happens to those people? Once again, I don't think it's been confirmed
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:22 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

I hate it when people think I'm just saying something that is a theory, or unproven. If what I say is unproven, then I will state exactly that.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/616/616559p2.html

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IGN: It's clear that Link interacts with a lot of animals in Twilight Princess. Can you explain how deep the system runs?

Eiji Aonuma: I think one element that I can talk about is that when humans get pulled into the Twilight Realm they cannot exist there in their human form. So when Link goes into the Twilight Realm and transforms into the wolf, he finds that animals, unlike humans, do remain. So as a wolf he can communicate with the animals. So he'll talk to animals to get information from them. And as you can see in the show floor demo, in one of the dungeons Link actually cooperates with the animals. We're planning to implement a lot more elements like that. While it won't be Link walking hand-in-hand with animals, you may find more situations where Link is helping animals or animals are helping Link, working together to fight bosses and things like that.
True, it doesn't prove me right. This does:

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CN: So we can say that the only person who transforms [in the twilight realm] is Link?

EA: That is correct. Link is the only being who can transform in the twilight realm. There are other animals in the twilight, but these already belonged there even before the twilight arrived. In fact, Link can communicate and interact with these animals – something that couldn’t be done in his original form.
In short, people do not exist in the Twilight, and Link cooperates with animals that are residents of the Twlilight.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:47 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

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IGN:Yeah, in the beginning he basically gets grabbed and pulled into the Twilight Realm. But it's not just Link - he's not the only one. The Twilight Realm is gradually expanding and as it expands it reaches out and grabs anybody just outside of it.
It sounds to me a lot like your theory is correct Link_of_Hyrule1. The Twilight Realm is not a separate world as in ALttP. It spreads throughout the world of Hyrule and grabs away at anything in its path. I think that you are right in thinking that as you defeat parts of the realm, parts of Hyrule return.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:35 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

Yeah i don't think there'll be dimensional puzzles ala Metroid Prime 2, because as stated previously, the Twilight is more like something eating Hyrule rather than coinciding with it. and i've also read in an interview that they wouldn't do puzzles like that anyway. I can't provide the link, but i remember specifically that when a puzzle starts in one area, it finishes in that area. Meaning if you're solving a puzzle in the Twilight, the entire puzzle will be in the Twilight. if it's not in the Twilight, no part of the puzzle will be "Twilighted" in any way.

Also, no offense, but the puzzles in Metroid Prime 2 were by no means "brilliant". Don't get me wrong, i like the game, a lot too, but what's so brilliant about "Find the thing and shoot it". oh yeah, tons of variety:

"Find the thing(s) and shoot it/them."
"Find the thing(s) and scan it/them."
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:59 AM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

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Yeah i don't think there'll be dimensional puzzles ala Metroid Prime 2, because as stated previously, the Twilight is more like something eating Hyrule rather than coinciding with it. and i've also read in an interview that they wouldn't do puzzles like that anyway. I can't provide the link, but i remember specifically that when a puzzle starts in one area, it finishes in that area. Meaning if you're solving a puzzle in the Twilight, the entire puzzle will be in the Twilight. if it's not in the Twilight, no part of the puzzle will be "Twilighted" in any way.

Also, no offense, but the puzzles in Metroid Prime 2 were by no means "brilliant". Don't get me wrong, i like the game, a lot too, but what's so brilliant about "Find the thing and shoot it". oh yeah, tons of variety:

"Find the thing(s) and shoot it/them."
"Find the thing(s) and scan it/them."
"Find the thing(s) and shoot it/them... with this weapon."

Yeah, your right thier not exactly original, but what I liked was eg in that room with a big laser in torvus bog (I think it's a while since I played it)? remeber it? You have to change the laser direction in the dark world, then in the light world to destroy something. And yeah I now realise that the Twilight is now 'eating' Hyrule and you have to enter it and 'beat it back.' Imagine being in a town filled with animals and then when you beat that area, it reveals all the people. This brings me to my next question. If people turn into animals then how come the thing thats riding Link, forgotten his/her/it's name isn't an animal, or is that his/her/it's animal form. What form do you all think Ganon(dorf) will take.

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/showthread.php?t=41887&page=4

There read the last post and I said I thought you'd fight Ganon(fdorf) in his animal form. Anyway this is going a bit off topic.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:42 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

I think they haven't confirmed yet if everyone turns into an animal.
And Midna, that small creature, lives in the twilight realm I believe, or is the altered verison of someone.
I thought they said there were bosses that you had to fight in YOUR animal form, but nothing about Ganon, or an animal form of him.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:46 PM
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Re: Twlilght realm/normal world puzzles

Yea i remember reading somewhere that Midna is a creature from the Twilight Realm.
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