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Old 04-13-2006, 03:20 PM
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Zelda Theory

I cracked up this theory:

Sacred Realm, Twilight Realm and Golden Realm, the same thing?

I know all of you Zelda fans are excited about Twilight Princess. I found out all I can by looking at this link everyday: http://cube.ign.com/objects/572/572738.html.

But being the fan I am, I looked back at all the Zelda games to find out what I can about the game. The first obvious thing came to be when I saw the E3 05 Trailer for Zelda. Link only becomes a wearwolf when he enters the Twilight Realm. Just like when Link enters the Dark World (AKA, The Golden Realm) on A Link to the Past and turns into a bunny. Some of you may know that when someone steps in the Sacred Realm, it reflects their personality. Ganondorf stepped inside the Sacred Realm so it turned to evil. Are you following this? That would make the Sacred Realm the Golden Realm, in which both are said to hold the triforce!

And so I make my point, Ganondorf stepped inside the Sacred Realm, it turns evil. When he was was sealed inside of it, he still had the Triforce of Power in his hand. He somehow manipulates the Triforce of Power to make the Sacred Realm combine with Hyrule. The Sacred Realm, now the Twilight Realm starts to overtake Hyrule. The descendants of the Seven Sages must end up sealing the Twilight Realm. Sahasrahla from A Link to the Past must be one of them. They must have to have left some holes open leading to the Dark World which explain the portals on A Link to the Past. Agahnim, Ganon's puppet counterpart, escapes from the Dark World to break the seal of the Seven Wise Men that was put on the Dark World. All of this prooves that the Sacred Realm, Twilight Realm and the Golden Realm are all the same thing. If this prooves nothing to you, you must look deeper.

The only thing that doesn't fit in is the Triforce in LttP. But you know what? In Wind Waker, the dead king touched the Triforce and made a wish. Dead people can't make a wish on the Triforce.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: Zelda Theory

i just got 1 question.

how do you know dead people cant make a wish on the triforce? I dont remember reading or hearing about that you have to be living to do so.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:23 PM
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Re: Zelda Theory

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Originally Posted by Dean Talon
I cracked up this theory:

Sacred Realm, Twilight Realm and Golden Realm, the same thing?

I know all of you Zelda fans are excited about Twilight Princess. I found out all I can by looking at this link everyday: http://cube.ign.com/objects/572/572738.html.

But being the fan I am, I looked back at all the Zelda games to find out what I can about the game. The first obvious thing came to be when I saw the E3 05 Trailer for Zelda. Link only becomes a wearwolf when he enters the Twilight Realm. Just like when Link enters the Dark World (AKA, The Golden Realm) on A Link to the Past and turns into a bunny. Some of you may know that when someone steps in the Sacred Realm, it reflects their personality. Ganondorf stepped inside the Sacred Realm so it turned to evil. Are you following this? That would make the Sacred Realm the Golden Realm, in which both are said to hold the triforce!

And so I make my point, Ganondorf stepped inside the Sacred Realm, it turns evil. When he was was sealed inside of it, he still had the Triforce of Power in his hand. He somehow manipulates the Triforce of Power to make the Sacred Realm combine with Hyrule. The Sacred Realm, now the Twilight Realm starts to overtake Hyrule. The descendants of the Seven Sages must end up sealing the Twilight Realm. Sahasrahla from A Link to the Past must be one of them. They must have to have left some holes open leading to the Dark World which explain the portals on A Link to the Past. Agahnim, Ganon's puppet counterpart, escapes from the Dark World to break the seal of the Seven Wise Men that was put on the Dark World. All of this prooves that the Sacred Realm, Twilight Realm and the Golden Realm are all the same thing. If this prooves nothing to you, you must look deeper.

The only thing that doesn't fit in is the Triforce in LttP. But you know what? In Wind Waker, the dead king touched the Triforce and made a wish. Dead people can't make a wish on the Triforce.
The golden realm changes to who ever has the triforce. The sacred realm doesn't hold the triforce either, the golden realm does.

This theory doesn't prove anything really.
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6 a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption : CONJECTURE c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

And the time line goes something like this OoT>MM>TP>tWW>the rest of the games

Who said dead people can't wish on the Triforce. The king wasn't dead, he died after the battle.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:32 PM
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I just want to know who says dead people cant make a wish on the triforce...
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Old 04-13-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: Zelda Theory

Well I agree with Dean. The Sacred Realm Does hold the Triforce. It said in all the stories in OoT.

Dean is probably saying that the Golden Realm and the Sacred Realm are the same place. i mean they both hold the Triforce. The Golden Realm could have been named differently due to the passing of time (remember the story of the Hero of Time in the WW?)!!
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Old 04-13-2006, 08:52 PM
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Re: Zelda Theory

yeah I agree they must be the same place because the gate lies in hyrule right well that would explain why the door of time leads to the chamber of sages because in alttp the seven wise men refer to the sages as their descendants the seven wise men themselves were sages so the door of time is where the original portal was hyrule castle so that the triforces does lie in the sacred realm Link got his piece of the triforce when he pulled the master sword out because each piece exists in that realm Ganondorf got his after Link was frozen in time to age so ganondorf just walked in and picked the only piece left so the master sword is acually the key to the sacred realm cause Ganon couldn't have got his piece if Link hadn't pulled out the sword so the hero who pulls out the sword obtains the triforce of courage but doesn't awaken till the Hero proves hes ready Zelda probably got her piece from ancestory.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:05 PM
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Re: Zelda Theory

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Well I agree with Dean. The Sacred Realm Does hold the Triforce. It said in all the stories in OoT.

Dean is probably saying that the Golden Realm and the Sacred Realm are the same place. i mean they both hold the Triforce. The Golden Realm could have been named differently due to the passing of time (remember the story of the Hero of Time in the WW?)!!
Thanks for backing me up, Tim.

Yeah, go back and play OoT, WW, and LttP. They have the most triforce lore in them. And actually READ the dialogue.

Also, one of the Seven Maidens says when Ganon dies, the Triforce is once again free for another wish. I assumed that because the king was already dead, he couldn't make a wish on it.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:55 PM
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Re: Zelda Theory

This is a good perspective on the matter.

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I cracked up this theory:

Sacred Realm, Twilight Realm and Golden Realm, the same thing?

I know all of you Zelda fans are excited about Twilight Princess. I found out all I can by looking at this link everyday: http://cube.ign.com/objects/572/572738.html.

But being the fan I am, I looked back at all the Zelda games to find out what I can about the game. The first obvious thing came to be when I saw the E3 05 Trailer for Zelda. Link only becomes a wearwolf when he enters the Twilight Realm. Just like when Link enters the Dark World (AKA, The Golden Realm) on A Link to the Past and turns into a bunny. Some of you may know that when someone steps in the Sacred Realm, it reflects their personality. Ganondorf stepped inside the Sacred Realm so it turned to evil. Are you following this? That would make the Sacred Realm the Golden Realm, in which both are said to hold the triforce!
Since this idea is not original, this has always been a drawn out fact that this proves it is the Sacred Realm corrupted. However, you can bet that your theory is right because Ganondorf is involved in TP, which means that Ganondorf is in the Evil Realm from last after OoT. So this is another thing to consider.

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And so I make my point, Ganondorf stepped inside the Sacred Realm, it turns evil. When he was was sealed inside of it, he still had the Triforce of Power in his hand. He somehow manipulates the Triforce of Power to make the Sacred Realm combine with Hyrule. The Sacred Realm, now the Twilight Realm starts to overtake Hyrule. The descendants of the Seven Sages must end up sealing the Twilight Realm. Sahasrahla from A Link to the Past must be one of them. They must have to have left some holes open leading to the Dark World which explain the portals on A Link to the Past. Agahnim, Ganon's puppet counterpart, escapes from the Dark World to break the seal of the Seven Wise Men that was put on the Dark World. All of this prooves that the Sacred Realm, Twilight Realm and the Golden Realm are all the same thing. If this prooves nothing to you, you must look deeper.
The idea of Ganondorf's Triforce of Power manipulating the merging of the Evil Realm into the Hylrule World is not to far fetched. In FSA Ganon used the Trident of Power to do the very same thing. In the Village of the Blue Maiden, in FSA, The Dark World was drawing people in the village into this shadow world by the forces of evil. Now whos to say that Ganondorf in TP cannot make the same scenario happen the same way? Especially with the Triforce of Power at his command.

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The only thing that doesn't fit in is the Triforce in LttP. But you know what? In Wind Waker, the dead king touched the Triforce and made a wish. Dead people can't make a wish on the Triforce.
One thing you missed about the Triforce legend in ALttP is that the Triforce will stay with the obtainer as long as the person lives. The King was technically a spirit (NOT living) Therefore the Triforce did not stay with him. Where did the triforce go? I believe it is bound back to its sacred resting place but anyone's guess is as good as mine. I'm more comfortable in believing what I just said because I would not like to think that the Triforce just randomly shoots out to some unkown area. Probably the Gods took the trifrce back, maybe.


OK, now that said, I do not believe that TP features the Great War where the Seven Sages Seal the gateway the Sacred Realm I have a theory that strongly supported the idea a while back if your interested in reading it just ask, but I no longer beleive in that theory about ALttPn having to root back to the OoT era in anyway. TP has some promissings hints of ALttP coming after it but this is not so. WW cannot come after ALttP. There are way to many loop wholes and explanations that you would have to come up with to support the storylines linking from ALttP to WW. You can try to prove me wrong, but I assure you, it won't be easy.

Of course if you are considering this theory off a Split Timeline Theorist's stand point of view, I cannot help you.
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Actually LoZ Historian, in reference to your statement about the TriForce vanishing from King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, I believe that he wished for himself to die with Hyrule, and Ganondorf with him. That's why Link could kill Ganondorf, and the TriForce vanished because it sensed the King's wish to die with Hyrule. So the King was a "dead man walking" from the moment he made the wish.
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Actually LoZ Historian, in reference to your statement about the TriForce vanishing from King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, I believe that he wished for himself to die with Hyrule, and Ganondorf with him. That's why Link could kill Ganondorf, and the TriForce vanished because it sensed the King's wish to die with Hyrule. So the King was a "dead man walking" from the moment he made the wish.
That is good support to. But I always thought he was a spirit in the sence that he could vanish in and out of places in Hyrule Castle at one point in the game. Oh well. Nonetheless the Triforce will not stay with someone if the person dies or wishes themselves in a state where they will die... (That kind of sounds weird in the King's perspective. )
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Actually LoZ Historian, in reference to your statement about the TriForce vanishing from King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, I believe that he wished for himself to die with Hyrule, and Ganondorf with him. That's why Link could kill Ganondorf, and the TriForce vanished because it sensed the King's wish to die with Hyrule. So the King was a "dead man walking" from the moment he made the wish.
Hmm, you know what? It never really said he was dead but I figured he was because he said he was doomed to sink with Hyrule when you just find out about who he is.
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