Master Sword in Hyrule Castle.

I was just pondering over how the master sword ended up in hyrule castle in WW, when I thought "hey maybe TP reveals the answer". Now I know that the master sword is'nt officially in TP, and I'm not saying it is or is'nt, it's just a thought. Tell me what you think.

Well when you remove the master sword it doesn't let you travel through time. So maybe they took it out of the Temple of Time to stop people going through time!

Username180 the only reason you went forward through time when u took the sword was becuase you wern't old enough to be the hero or face all the horrible creatures so it wouldn't have the same effect with other people

And i'm pretty sure the master sword was transfered to hyrule castle becuase then the kings sorcerers could put a seal on ganandorf...remeber when link took the master swrd out in tww everything became alive

Originally Posted by Oot master

Username180 the only reason you went forward through time when u took the sword was becuase you wern't old enough to be the hero or face all the horrible creatures so it wouldn't have the same effect with other people

And i'm pretty sure the master sword was transfered to hyrule castle becuase then the kings sorcerers could put a seal on ganandorf...remeber when link took the master swrd out in tww everything became alive

That, and the road between times was closed when Link laid the Master Sword to rest in the pedastal of time. Which, by the way, completely shatters the OoT paradox theory.

And your theory seems likely, OoT Master. After all, removing the Master Sword from its pedastal would break the seal on Ganondorf himself. The only logical explanation for why they would remove the blade of evil's bane from the Temple of Time is to thwart a more immediate threat. And the sages could simply construct a new seal where the Master Sword was lain to rest.

...Or, Hyrule Castle could have been expanded to include the Temple of Time. Yes, I know this presents horrible issues in structural chronology, but since when has the size of castle's ever really come into play in Zelda? >>

I figure that in Tp you will have too put the MS into some special pedistal in hyrule castle to stop the twilight from spreading and to save Hyrule. I can't really think of any other way it would end up there. And I'm 100% sure it's in the game. If this is going to be the best Zelda game ever, how can there not be the MS, and I know the pciture of it isn't clear, but in the picture of Link walking by that tree that looks like a person you can see the MS sheet on his back and a purple sword hilt.

Ganon/dorf is already confirmed to be in TP. Therefore, so shall the Master Sword make an appearance. After all, it is the only weapon that can seal/kill him (aside from the silver arrows).

Originally Posted by Wielder of the Sword

Ganon/dorf is already confirmed to be in TP. Therefore, so shall the Master Sword make an appearance. After all, it is the only weapon that can seal/kill him (aside from the silver arrows).

That's true. But, then we're all dying to see what it looks like. I wanna see it! Ahem, now then, perhaps Hyrule Castle was rebuilt to include the Temple of Time. If you look at the exterior of the Temple of Time (and the interior) you'll notice that it looks similar to Hyrule Castle in Wind Waker. Perhaps they just lowered the pedestal into the new basement, but it broke (They shouldn't have let the Deku Scrubs work the winches, I tell you!) so they just made a new one. Hm... But wait... The pedestal in Wind Waker pretty much tells you what's happening in Hyrule. The people are all losing hope of the Hero of Time returning, so they are turning to the gods for help. The gods are symbolized by the Triforce (which is engraved on the ground), which has the Master Sword planted in the center. The Master Sword is not only a key to Ganondorf's power, but also a key to the Triforce itself. Only through the Master Sword being removed can anyone obtain the Triforce. (Well, excluding the prologue in the ALttP manual, but then again, everything in the American manual was made up by Nintendo of America.) I think that in Twilight Princess we may have to place the Master Sword in the Pedestal of Time (because, if you'll recall, time was frozen in Hyrule by the Master Sword being in the pedestal) in order to freeze time until a future hero can save the day. Hm... Perhaps TP Link doesn't die, but perhaps he isn't strong enough to save Hyrule (Wait, what? Someone that bad-ass can't even save Hyrule? What's the world coming to?) so they have to wait for the Hero to return, and through some twist of fate, it is the Hero of Time reborn. Hm... So, in essence, isn't the Hero of Time also the Hero of Winds? Meaning Link I (the first) was not only in OoT and MM but also WW? Wow, never thought of that. Oh, and here's another one. The old man you get your sword from. He looks oddly familiar, don't you think? Perhaps he has some connection with the Hero of Time... What? You can't figure out what I'm saying? I'm saying that the old man IS Link! The original Link! See, he's blind, meaning the reason he wasn't able to stand up to save Hyrule is the same reason Metal Gear Solid games are either going to be stop being made of Snake's gonna be cloned. (I don't play them, I just know he's old.) He must have lost his sight of natural means, or in battle. Now, he does seem to be an excellent swordsman, and he carries his sword the same way as Link I. I'm just saying that it's a possibility, not that it's true, but just a possibility.

That seems incredibly far-fetched. >> And the guy doesn't really look so much like the Hero of Time to me... Besides, it's not known for fact that he returns to Hyrule. I believe he did, because of the final scene in MM. But I really don't think that the Hero of Time would make a cameo in TP. It takes place "several decades" after OoT, and for all we know, Link I could be dead by then. I have the feeling he would be... A cameo by Link to Link? That would just be too weird. *shakes head*

Holy sh;t Master of ALttP! Where the hell did you pull that farfetched theory from?! Your ass or what?! I mean I agree with Wielder of the Sword, that theory was just a bunch of ranting. I hope you were not being seriously literal about what you were saying.

Anyway the big mystery is if Ganondorf is going to be present in TP that means that Link is going to get the Master Sword. "duh " But here is the thing... If the Royal Family knows that removing the Master Sword from the Temple of Time or having Link weild it in due time, why would they allow this matter to happen knowing the sword keeps part of the seal on Ganon in tact, let alone the sword acting as a key between opening or closing the gateway between the Evil Realm and Hyrule?????? Unless the Royal Family was ignorant to this fact about the Master Sword and had it moved, thus the gateway between the worlds are opened. Then maybe this explains the Twilight being the evil poison coming from the Evil Realm flowing all over Hyrule.

It is still a mystery to why the Hylians relocated the Master Sword between OoT and WW. I believe that the Royal Faimly will actually doom Hyrule by not keeping the Master Sword in the Temple of Time because it was the sole lock on the gate to the Evil Realm where Ganon was imprisoned. It seems ignorence is what killed Hyrule. Ignorance of the Master Sword's capabilities were spoken of by Ganondorf in WW. His statements made a haunting ring back to the past where Hylians too may have been ignorant of its capabilities as well.

Heres what i think. i know there has been much debate on whether there will be the beginning of a flood at the end of the game (as told in the story of WW). if the flood DOES happen, and if what wielder of the sword said is true about the master sword being the only thing that can defeat Ganon/dorf, then maybe the sword is NOT in TP. maybe the master sword isn't there, and therefor ganon/dorf cannot be defeated, and that is why the flood had to occur.


maybe the legend spoken of in ww was true, but a little off, and the hero (or A hero) DID appear but he couldn't find the sword to defeat ganon. then maybe he does what he can to help the people of hyrule to survive until the flood can start, and then help them get to the hill tops to survive the flood itself.

i know parts of this theory are a little far fetched. and i could be completely wrong here. but its just a theory.

Ganon was never completely resealed after TWW backstory. He was trapped under the sea and after a long time managed to create a portal from his underwater tower to the forsaken fortress. His power was still sealed but he was not. When he got to the surface tetra's crew's rivals fled, and the fortress became Ganon's. He then went out and killed the sages in an attempt to unseal his power. He failed (all this is before TWW starts), but link drew the sword and his power was released.
They probably just built new Hyrule castle over the pedestal, I mean, Hyrule castle WAS DESTROYED, to make Ganon's castle. The castle was not destroyed in the MM line though, so it's more probable that the castle was rebuilt where it was in the adult line, and sometime after the lines converge into one again, but before the flood, the sword and pedestal is moved to Hyrule castle. The moving of the sword may have disturbed the seal, which could be why Ganon escaped. I don't see how this shatters te paradox theory.

Maybe the the castle in WW was indeed the Temple of Time in OoT. I mean Ganondorf destroyed the original castle and then they made a new one, RIGHT ABOVE THE MASTER SWORD!!

Originally Posted by Oni_Link1991

Maybe the the castle in WW was indeed the Temple of Time in OoT. I mean Ganondorf destroyed the original castle and then they made a new one, RIGHT ABOVE THE MASTER SWORD!!

The castle wasnt destroyed, or infact it was. But since Link traveled back in time, the castle was there again.

Originally Posted by Anarand

The castle wasnt destroyed, or infact it was. But since Link traveled back in time, the castle was there again.

But there are still some people around that believe in the split timeline theory, where tWW was after the adult ending in OoT (And don't all you single line theorists kick my ass, i said SOME).

Therefore, the castle would have been destroyed, both of them, in fact, and not the castle at all. But, they could have rebuilt the castle in that time, or used the temple of time, either way.

Okay, okay, you people now have me wanting to pick apart the TP storyline. Let's see, we have several factors we need to keep in mind here before we begin. First, I'll list a number of important factors which will aid in creating a logical, consistent plot.

1) Someone is spreading the Twilight--not necessarily Ganondorf. It must, however, be the Bokoblin King's master. The Twilight spreads continually, has already engulfed Hyrule Castle, and Link is the only one who can transform in the Twilight. This means everyone else who enters into it "disappears". Why would this help whoever the enemy is? What does he/she seek to gain?

2) Zelda has been kidnapped by someone--not necessarily Ganondorf. Her cloak supposedly protects her from the shape-altering effects of the Twilight, and she mourns the loss of Hyrule. This may mean she played a role in her land's undoing. Of course, she wouldn't have done so intentionally, so perhaps she was deceived. Either that, or she acted impulsively and made a fatal mistake.

3) It's plain to see that the "Spirit's Spring" in Toaru plays a significant role in the game, seeing as how it has healing powers. If we go by my theory, there could be one of these springs in each of the villages or towns surrounding Hyrule. After all, Miyamoto did say that all of the villages would play an important role in TP's story. My theory is that they could act similarly to the temples in OoT, and that there could be a sage or some other wise creature inhabiting it in some way. After all, it is called the Spirit's Spring.

4) Because Ganondorf is already confirmed to be in the game, and because the Triforce clearly plays a large role (again), we know the Master Sword will be involved. As said before, it is possible that the castle was rebuilt over the pedastal, though we have no proof of this.

5) From tWW's prologue, we know that the Hero of Time did not make an appearance (which just about evaporates Master of ALttP's cameo theory--if Link were still alive, he'd have tried to do something). We also know that TP takes place "several decades after OoT". This is significant, as it does not simply mean thirty or fourty years. It's a much larger timeframe than that, probably closer to eighty years after OoT.

Okay, you have your fun facts, kiddos. Now, theorize. I'll take anything you've got and analyze it in accordance with the above material. Let's see what everyone can come up with. Who knows? Maybe with your suggestions we can unwravel the entire storyline. ^^

[EDIT] The bulk of this post has been spoilerified due to the fact that I just realized this isn't in the TP Spoilers section.

Anyway the big mystery is if Ganondorf is going to be present in TP that means that Link is going to get the Master Sword. "duh " But here is the thing... If the Royal Family knows that removing the Master Sword from the Temple of Time or having Link weild it in due time, why would they allow this matter to happen knowing the sword keeps part of the seal on Ganon in tact, let alone the sword acting as a key between opening or closing the gateway between the Evil Realm and Hyrule?????? Unless the Royal Family was ignorant to this fact about the Master Sword and had it moved, thus the gateway between the worlds are opened. Then maybe this explains the Twilight being the evil poison coming from the Evil Realm flowing all over Hyrule.

Probably because there is no other weapon in Hyrule that is strong enough to stop Ganondorf when he's infused with the Triforce of Power. It's not like they have any power over the Master Sword. There's simply nothing in the present Hyrule besides the Master Sword that can seal the gate to the Sacred Realm and hold back Ganondorf's power.

It is still a mystery to why the Hylians relocated the Master Sword between OoT and WW. I believe that the Royal Faimly will actually doom Hyrule by not keeping the Master Sword in the Temple of Time because it was the sole lock on the gate to the Evil Realm where Ganon was imprisoned. It seems ignorence is what killed Hyrule. Ignorance of the Master Sword's capabilities were spoken of by Ganondorf in WW. His statements made a haunting ring back to the past where Hylians too may have been ignorant of its capabilities as well.

The Master Sword is what sealed the Sacred Realm, not the Temple of Time itself, or even the Pedestal of Time. Perhaps they dug up the stone around the Master Sword, which made it possible to transfer it to Hyrule Castle. Plus, it would be a lot easier to keep a watch over the Master Sword if it was kept with the Royal Family.

my theory is that after link sealed ganon in oot he went to termina and saved them all and it is a two part timeline
1. link stayed in termina hence he could not go back and save hyrule from ganon hence great flood blah blah blah
OR
2. link went back to hyrule and grew up hence grown up twilight princess link and the spreading of the twilight is either ganondorfs new plan to take over hyrule or it is some other guys plan to set ganondorf free and already take over hyrule so ganondorf doesnt have to do any work because obviously this third party worships ganon
I dont believe this but every one else has a sensible storyline so i wanted to say a stupid concept instead of playin off of theres and i figured people would start saying crazy things if i said such a ridiculous storyline

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Confirmed by Eiji Aonuma: The Link in Twilight Princess is not the Hero of Time. He is a different Link.

That just about kills your theory, PIL. Also, according to the TSA interview (assuming it's not an AFP, which appears likely at this point), TP is not the legend spoken of in tWW's intro. You know, I think I'll just quote it.

Originally Posted by Eiji Aonuma

As you know, Twilight Princess takes place between Ocarina of Time and The Wind Waker. I've heard that many fans assume the introduction of The Wind Waker is what will happen in Twilight Princess. While we understand fans have a certain expectation for how the game should end, The Wind Waker's introduction did state it was one of the many legends in Hyrule. So, Twilight Princess' story is not foretold in The Wind Waker, although I promise the ending will tie into it. As for Phantom Hourglass - as you may have guessed, it is a sequel to The Wind Waker. That's all I can reveal at this time.

Case closed. We have no idea what's going on.

But then again, as I said above, this may very well be a prank. Personally, I wouldn't be upset. If the whole fiasco with the ZU staff going nuts all over the place (BAC notwithstanding) didn't piss me off, this won't even faze me.

Originally Posted by Wielder of the Sword

Case closed. We have no idea what's going on.

I'm quoting you on that.

Wow, I didn't even know that they were going to release more information on another Zelda game before TP was even released... jeez. Nintendo's going all out so it's fans won't just leave them in the dust and go buy a 360. Tee hee.

I don't know if this is true, it probably isn't, but i read it somewhere in someone's post, saying that the mastersword might actually be "some character", also saying that that might be how it keeps moving from place to place (Lostwoods, ToT, Hyrule castle). Again, this is probably some gobble-dee-gook messed up theory, but they did say something unexpected was gonna happen in this TP game, maybe the mastersword has been playing a larger, secretive role in the games, waiting for such a long time to pass to reveal it's true purpose. Ok, let's put aside opinions for a sec, and just try to think that this could POSSIBLY be close to what's really happening.

Maybe the Mastersword has been playing everyone into it's hands (assuming that it is some kind of character, or possesed by some evil sorcery or something of that manner) I mean, everyone wants it, Ganondorf wanted link from WW to pull it up, knowing it would release his power, Zelda wanted link to get it in OOT to defeat ganon, either way, people have been wanting a hero to weild this blade, maybe this is a false hope, maybe someone has been pulling the strings all along, waiting for the right hero to wield it to posses it with some evil magic, thus leading to the hero failing, and the battle for peace dragging on for a time, so that this new guy can take over with ease.

Again, this is probably just a bunch of ranting and crap so if it seems kinda dumb to you guys just disregard it completely, just taking a stab at the question at hand.