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Old 03-16-2006, 06:25 AM
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A Possible Connection between TP and WW

Reading back through the Legend in WW do you think that could mean the Twilight? You know, the Darkness thats spreading over Hyrule? (Please dont flame meee!!!!)
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:34 AM
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Re: A Possible Connection between TP and WW

Well just to let you know this has been discussed many times and yes it is possible.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:10 AM
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It is! Never noticed that...*reads WW legend* http://www.zeldauniverse.net/content/view/248/151/

If this is true....HYRULE IS DESTROYED IN THE END OF TP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:25 AM
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Sweet, it was something I noticed while playin through the other day and the thought of the "Darkness" went through my mind. It would be cool to see how Hyrule was flooded and the events that led up to it. Maybe the Link you play in this one dies since he isnt the Hero of Time. And The Legend says the Hero never returned.
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Old 03-16-2006, 01:44 PM
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Re: A Possible Connection between TP and WW

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Sweet, it was something I noticed while playin through the other day and the thought of the "Darkness" went through my mind. It would be cool to see how Hyrule was flooded and the events that led up to it. Maybe the Link you play in this one dies since he isnt the Hero of Time. And The Legend says the Hero never returned.
True this one isnt the Hero of Time but I doubt nintendo would ever kill Link in a Zelda game. Maybe he was being held captive and thats why he never returned. Not because he was dead but simply because he couldnt. Just a theory....
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:02 PM
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But one day, a man of great evil found the golden power and took it for himself... With its strength at his command, he spread darkness across the kingdom. But then, when all hope had died, and the hour of doom seemed at hand...

...a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. Wielding the blade of evil's bane, he sealed the dark one away and gave the land light. This boy, who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the Hero of Time.
If you're talking about that part of the legend, the darkness referred to the darkness from Ocarina of Time, when Ganondorf took the Triforce of Power and made Hyrule his own. As it mentions the Hero of Time right after it.
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Old 03-18-2006, 08:04 AM
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Re: A Possible Connection between TP and WW

no no no, Lozzie. that part is OoT but there is a part after that when the hero doesn't show up and then they flood the world. Come on. I made the first thread about this. No denying it.
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:57 PM
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this is what i think.... i believe that theirs a double time line. When Link came back from time, it was like Ganondorf never existed so he was just simply inside the sacred realm. As the adult time, that's when Ganondorf escaped and the gods had to flood hyrule. Well dat's wut i think cause if you think about it, this makes a whole lot sense.
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Old 03-18-2006, 01:03 PM
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Re: A Possible Connection between TP and WW

This would be rather intersting. However, I don't think they will show the entire flood in TP. Personally, I think there will be hints that lead to both OOT and TWW. For example, in TWW, you could only understand about half the storyline and what the "sages" and Ganondorf were talking about if you played OOT. For instance, Ganondorf kept referring to a desert that was his home. He said his home was descolate and he coverted the wind that blew from the other land. If you didn't play OOT, you would have no idea that he was referring to Gerudo Valley and Hyrule. Really, you wouldn't. So, in TP, instead of showing the entire flood, at the end there should be a shot of Link gazing up toward the sky as the first few drops pour down... then it ends. And maybe, when tWW says that the hero never came, maybe all this was from a victim's veiw. For instance, maybe the Hero DID come, but had to sacrifice himself to make the flood come or something. I don't know if any of you know what I'm trying to say, but, you know... if you do please post comments.
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Old 03-19-2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: A Possible Connection between TP and WW

Lets all look at the biggest link to figuring out how TP connects into WW: The WW prologue provided below:

This is but one of the legends of which the people speak... Long ago, there existed a kingdom where a golden power lay hidden. It was a prosperous land blessed with green forests, tall mountains, and peace. But one day a man of great evil found the golden power and took it for himself... With its strength at his command, he spread darkness across the kingdom. But then, when all hope had died, and the hour of doom seemed at hand...a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. Wielding the blade of evil's bane, he sealed the dark one away and gave the land light.

This boy, who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the Hero of Time. The boy's tale was passed down through generations until it became legend...But then...a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom. The great evil that all thought had been forever sealed away by the hero...once again crept forth from the depths of the earth, eager to resume its dark designs. The people believed that the Hero of Time would again come to save them...But the hero did not appear. Faced by an onslaught of evil, the people could do nothing but appeal to the gods. In their last hour, as doom drew nigh, they left their future in the hands of fate. What became of that kingdom...? None remain who know.

The memory of the kingdom vanished, but its legend survived on the wind's breath. On a certain island, it became customary to garb boys in green when they came of age. Clothed in the green of fields, they aspired to find heroic blades and cast down evil. The elders wished only for the youths to know courage like the hero of legend...


First thing is first. the darkness spread across the Kindom of Hyrule was caused by Ganondorf during OoT as mentioned first because the prologue tells of the Hero of Time sealing him away afterwards. So that being said the Twilight is not that specific darkness, which is still yet to come after OoT.

Now here is the haunting statement that is bolded heavily, the part saying about Ganon arising from the depths of the earth. I take this symbolizism very heavily as to infering that Ganon was defeated within the Evil Realm between OoT and WW while in his imprisonment. Thus the statement here would mean that TP Link will be thought of as the Hero of Time that will save them again, but in his doing so there will be a price to pay which will trigger the revival of Ganon long after these events of TP that lead up to WW. So there may be a bit of foreshadowing going on in TP that will undoubtfully imply that even when Ganon is destroyed in the Evil Realm in TP he will be revived at a time when the Hero will not be present to stop him. Some way Ganon will find a way to defy destiney and the rules of the Great Cataclysm Legend. But we will not know exactly how until TP is released.

This little caption should not be dismissed in the WW prologue. I believe it undoubtfully gives insight to Ganon being defeated then revived from his last downfall in between OoT in WW. Also note that WW never mentions anything about Ganon escaping the Evil Realm from his seal. It does however tell about his imprisonment but it also infers that Ganon escapes from his imprisonment once revived. But Ganon was never destroyed at the end of OoT, so this has to mean that in TP Ganon is destroyed then revived at the time that TP's ending foreshadows the events of the WW prologue to come.
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:19 AM
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This boy, who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the Hero of Time. The boy's tale was passed down through generations until it became legend...But then...a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom. The great evil that all thought had been forever sealed away by the hero...once again crept forth from the depths of the earth, eager to resume its dark designs. The people believed that the Hero of Time would again come to save them...But the hero did not appear. Faced by an onslaught of evil, the people could do nothing but appeal to the gods. In their last hour, as doom drew nigh, they left their future in the hands of fate. What became of that kingdom...? None remain who know.
I think this definitely talks about some kind of mutation of ganondorf's evil magic rises out of his ensnarement like a bad smell ad corrupts the world perhaps forcing the void to weaken so Ganondorf can escape.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:25 AM
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check it out....I think the Twightlight Princess takes place in the time frame that Link (OoT) gets sealed away in the chambers for 7 years......the hero never came, because he was sealed waiting to be the hero of time.......I think this takes place while the "Darkness" was spreading through hyrule making it the way It is when Link awakens.....I believe the Hooded person is Princess Zelda when she was hiding from Ganondorf as Sheik.....So, the timeframe is:

<====OoT=======TWP=======OoT=====>
<===Child=================Adult====>

Because If you think about it, In that time frame while sealed away, there WAS NO hero, so Ganon (darkness) took over hyrule, Then....Link comes after the damage was done....so, maybe there was another Link that came while the Boy link was sealed away, faught Ganon, and failed....so maybe this is the story of that.....Excuse me though, I am drunk and might not make sense....but right now in my head it does....
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:50 AM
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it has already been stated by Aonuma that TP takes place after the adult end of the timeline... that it's a split timeline. I think it was a G4 interview, I can't remember.
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^^ Well the interview with Aonuma and the gang in ign.com, he states that the happenings of TP happens decades after OoT. So I don't think decades will fit in a seven year time period
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it has already been stated by Aonuma that TP takes place after the adult end of the timeline... that it's a split timeline. I think it was a G4 interview, I can't remember.
Your so confident in spreading that blastfamous point about Nintendo saying that. However I will never except yours or anyone's else's point on their being a 100% fact that the timeline has to split. Its all rubbish and I loath the thought of people like you that have to spread around this statement. Who's to say that TP actually merges both child and adult timeline events like WW did? Instead of a definate split in the timeline, how about a time paradox instead?

I don't care about the physics behind it all anymore. I only care about the definate factual quotes from the games themselves that perfectly make the timeline work on a linear scale also. I will continue to fight on to dispell the so many countraditions that Nintendo is going to damn themselves over in the sceme of future storylines, all started by making a split timeline in the entire Zelda Saga!!!
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Reading back through the Legend in WW do you think that could mean the Twilight?
I thik the correlation between WW and TP is that in TP you experience the events that occured durring ganons invasion of Hyrule in the WW prologue
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i don't get why there has to be a split timeline. Why can't he just grow up a little kid and turn in to the adult?? I mean, there is a different portion of time when he's young and old but what games branch out from young timeline and what branches out from the old timeline.
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:58 PM
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Has anyone thought that TP is between OOT and WW? I mean look OOT link locks ganon away and dies. Centuries later, an overwhelming amount of evil sweeps back into the land of hyrule. ( this is why princess zelda is in hiding). It's called the twilight. TP Link fights endlessly trying to save hyrule from the evil. Not knowing what to do, the king asks the gods to flood hyrule. Just before the end, as Tp link is fighting in the "temple of time" like place in the WW, he knows that hyrule is doomed, but in a daring attempt sticks the master sword in the pedistal and seals that part of hyrule away just before the flood. It would make sense that it was a last attempt because of the huge, noticeable amount of enemies in the Temple of time in the WW. TP link left a chance for WW link to save hyrule by doing this.
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Has anyone thought that TP is between OOT and WW? I mean look OOT link locks ganon away and dies. Centuries later, an overwhelming amount of evil sweeps back into the land of hyrule. ( this is why princess zelda is in hiding). It's called the twilight. TP Link fights endlessly trying to save hyrule from the evil. Not knowing what to do, the king asks the gods to flood hyrule. Just before the end, as Tp link is fighting in the "temple of time" like place in the WW, he knows that hyrule is doomed, but in a daring attempt sticks the master sword in the pedistal and seals that part of hyrule away just before the flood. It would make sense that it was a last attempt because of the huge, noticeable amount of enemies in the Temple of time in the WW. TP link left a chance for WW link to save hyrule by doing this.
Yeah it has been confirmed. In fact, this thread is all about that. Did this guy even read the first post???
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