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Old 03-10-2006, 08:06 PM
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It is my belief that this game will have mediocre sales while receiving highly positive reviews. It will be a fan favorite and a cult classic, but will be overlooked by adult casual gamers who have written off Nintendo long ago.
There are two groups still left that buy Nintendo consoles and games: hardcore gamers and young children. The game will be too dark for the, by far, larger group of GameCube players (the young children.)
While most of the game reviewers will be very positive towards this game, some will note that with it's darker mood it is a cynical attempt by Nintendo to recapture the adult casual gamer market they have lost. I predict parallels will be drawn with "Conker's Bad Fur Day." A game that launched at the end of the previous Nintendo console's life cycle, attempted to bring a darker and edgier image and while being a critics and fan's favorite never quite found a larger market beyond the hardcore gamers.
Ultimately I predict "Twilight Princess" will be, if not the last then one of the last, Nintendo games to have some moderate success in sales before the company leave the games business.


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Old 03-10-2006, 08:24 PM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

To some extent, I believe you are right, Nintendo makes some awesome games, but the most awesome ones seem to come towards the end of a console's life span, like you said, Conker's bad fur day was an awesome title, one of my personal favorites, but it didn't get a lot of exposure because everyone was over N64. I can see a similar thing happening with Twilight Princess, with the obvious difference that TP will be playable on revolution, which should help some, if they are able to convince rev buyers that TP is just as good a revolution title as it is a gamecube one.

It's just a fact of life I suppose, the games tend to get better (both visually and mechanically) as a console gets older.
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

You are absolutely, positively wrong. Did you know that there are already over half a million preorders through EB and Gamestop alone? This is a game that has received no marketing whatsoever and is not to be released for many months. There are lots and lots of people waiting for this game. Some people who I didn't even know played games are waiting for TP. Also, Nintendo says that TP is their most important game in years, and they will hype it up as that. Also, Mr. Gloom and Doom, if anything, the Rev will sell well because of its low price and online Smash Bros. Really, who wants to spend anywhere from $500-$800 for a PS3? I think that with Revolution, Nintendo will be able to dispel its "little purple box with 'kiddie' games" image. Not completely, mind you, but this next generation will be much better for Nintendo's image than the current one.
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:36 PM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

Welll it does not really matter, and its really going to help Twilight Princess sell.
As it will be playable on both GC and Revo. And I think it will be very wide-spread even if it is a little dark. Like Reggie said, you get 14 yr olds playing Grand theft Auto... Parents don't care what games there kids play... If it has a M on it they don't seem to care. Whats a T going todo?

Twilight Princess is going to be big....
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Old 03-10-2006, 09:38 PM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

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It is my belief that this game will have mediocre sales while receiving highly positive reviews. It will be a fan favorite and a cult classic, but will be overlooked by adult casual gamers who have written off Nintendo long ago.
There are two groups still left that buy Nintendo consoles and games: hardcore gamers and young children. The game will be too dark for the, by far, larger group of GameCube players (the young children.)
While most of the game reviewers will be very positive towards this game, some will note that with it's darker mood it is a cynical attempt by Nintendo to recapture the adult casual gamer market they have lost. I predict parallels will be drawn with "Conker's Bad Fur Day." A game that launched at the end of the previous Nintendo console's life cycle, attempted to bring a darker and edgier image and while being a critics and fan's favorite never quite found a larger market beyond the hardcore gamers.
Ultimately I predict "Twilight Princess" will be, if not the last then one of the last, Nintendo games to have some moderate success in sales before the company leave the games business.


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Anyway, I agree that Twilight Princess will not sell as well as it could've had it released fall 2005. Had it released then, it may very well have become the Gamecube's best selling game, even four full years after the console's release. Now it will just outsell WW, due mostly to the realistic graphics representation.

I stop agreeing with you on the grander picture. What is your basis for Twilight Princess as Nintendo's last hurah as they leave the gaming industry?

Nintendo can not die. All the dumb fanboys who rush out to the store to pick up random generic uninspired Mario whore #8 will keep them afloat. Personally, I feel Nintendo will never totally rediscover their past magnificence until this trend is stopped. It isn't like I blame them either. Why spend money and effort on full fledged, ambitious, original titles when a low budget slap job with Mario or Pokemon in the title will sell much better?

I love Nintendo. I do not like the Nintendo fanbase. Stop buying crap games just to support Nintendo or just because they carry the Nintendo seal of quality. You know you don't enjoy Nintendogs . . . but if you'd rather have it then something else, then by all means, keep feeding them. Oh, and try buying a third party game here or there.

Anywho, there truly is no logical basis for Nintendo leaving the game industry. They're making a killing. Only their market share declines, but that happens when you have nowhere to go but down. I see Revolution reversing the trend.
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

I think it will do quite well. There are alot of pre-orders for that game. Shoot working at GameStop I get about 3 reserves a day at the least for that game. I myself have reserved it and taken it off reserve twice because it kept getting pushed back. I know people that are buying GameCubes just for the sole purpose of getting that game. So yes I do think it will sell.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:52 AM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

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*Ahem* As much as I hate to admit it, Billy, you're correct in saying that TP will not sell as well as it could have if it released in.... Wait, Sheik84 already said that. ^^; Well, it's true. I accepted that a while back, but it still grates on my nerves. It seems some of the best games ever created are overlooked. V_V And I've little doubt that TP will be a contender for greatest game of the generation, right alongside RE4. (Great game, by the way. Scary as the living dead--more so, even. You'll be pausing and heading to the restroom every ten minutes of the first play-through. Have you ever wondered why it's called a "restroom"? I mean, if they put a couch in there, I could understand, but.... Right, rambling. Sorry.) Sadly, the hype that Nintendo has put toward their smash hit has faded away, and reviving that hype will be a feat that only a new trailer, a bucketload of new screenshots and a public release of the playable demo (simultaneously, mind you) can achieve.

Yet, even if this is done, it may not be enough to generate the much-needed horde of pulsating fanboy blobs. If they want TP to be the best it can be, they'd darn well better start hyping it to freakin' death, and fast, too. Otherwise, it will fall into obscurity before long, and none but the hardcore gamers will look upon its beauty and say "Ahhh...."

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Old 03-12-2006, 10:18 AM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

With the constant hype and attention that tp has been getting there is no doubt it will sell well. Infact it has basicly already sold well. There are hundereds and hudreds of copies of tp reserved per gamestop. The other thing being the nintendo fanboy I am I have gone uto many people and just ask them if there are ecited. They ask me, "About what?' And then I say, Twilight Princess". Then there all like "Awsome!" Even to the casual gamer who says screw nintendo, if they have a gamecube then there getting this game. I can gaurentee it.
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:26 AM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

TP will sell by the bucketloads. First, it has the Zelda brand attached to it, secondly, it has been hyped a lot (dont question it, it WAS e3 for nintendo last year, and over the last couple of years there has been a steady trickle of info and interviews and articles in various mags), it well get a lot of media attention in the last few months or so before its release, and lastly, it will be a killer game.

Oh, also, the people who gave up zelda becasue of tWW's visuals (insanity i know, but what are you gonna do) will come crawling back.

Add on top of that the fact that this site alone has about 28,000 members, all of whom will buy the game, plus the fact that, liek others have said, gamestop and EB ahve already recieved thousands upon thousands of orders. TP will sell, and easily over the 1 million mark.
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:32 AM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

ditto to harman.
Not to mention how much money may have been made already been made for nintendo already from all the pre-orders made, possibly just sitting in the bank gaining interest.
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Does the maths. If 1000000 people have pre-ordered the game with an average of $15-$20 dollar deposits then they (including money that will have to be payed to EB and others, so Nintendo + others collectively = they) have made at least $10000000 - $15000000 plus the interest. If its about half a million then it is still $5000000 plus interest minus fees and staff pay. Zelda will live on whether the whole world loves it or not. And most of the half a million to a million maybe a million and a half people who have pre-ordered it wont let $10-$15 bucks go to waste, so they're likely to buy the game anyway, even if it aint so great, or anything.
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Old 03-13-2006, 06:41 AM
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I think Twilight Princess will sell pretty well if Nintendo starts building the hype on it again. It probably won't reach the bar of, say, Ocarina of Time, but even as an end-generation game, I think it can topple the sales of The Wind Waker. The darker atmosphere can be a real boost in attracting new players to the franchise, as long it's not treated in a mediocre way, transforming the inspired universe of Zelda into something too eerie and disturbing...
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:20 AM
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I think it will sell well as it should, but lets face it, this is pretty much one of the last big games that Nintendo will be making. People are overlooking Nintendo and are going for X-Box 360 and PS3.
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I think it will sell very well and some people will get hooked for the revolution. I think sony is over working themselves with the PS3 and as a wait many people will buy TP.
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Old 03-19-2006, 04:49 PM
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Whether it sells or not, you'll still get the game, right?

One thing that annoys me alittle is that some people actually base buying a game off of sales it made and not the atual game itself. A game can sell terribly, but if I'm having fun with it I'll buy. It all depends on what type of games you like in the end.
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Old 03-19-2006, 04:52 PM
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Re: Will Twilight Princess sell?

You said that TP has a darker mood to it... well... thats true... but really... what 3d Zelda game hasn't had a dark mood in it?

OOT: Shadow temple... forest temple... spirit temple... Ganons Castle... had dark moods

MM: Stone tower... Inside the moon with those children (not really dark... just was kinda freaky.)

WW: forgot the name of the temple (forgive me ), but it has those freaky hands...

Basicly all zelda games had a dark mood at some point.
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Old 03-19-2006, 05:04 PM
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You said that TP has a darker mood to it... well... thats true... but really... what 3d Zelda game hasn't had a dark mood in it?

OOT: Shadow temple... forest temple... spirit temple... Ganons Castle... had dark moods

MM: Stone tower... Inside the moon with those children (not really dark... just was kinda freaky.)

WW: forgot the name of the temple (forgive me ), but it has those freaky hands...

Basicly all zelda games had a dark mood at some point.
That was the Earth Temple, buddy.

I'm just hoping Twilight Princess won't get too dark, maybe a mix of WW and OoT.
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Whether it sells or not, you'll still get the game, right?

One thing that annoys me alittle is that some people actually base buying a game off of sales it made and not the atual game itself. A game can sell terribly, but if I'm having fun with it I'll buy. It all depends on what type of games you like in the end.
How do you know if it's good or not until you've bought it. The less popular games are less likely to have demos, and the only way to know how good a game is, is by going off on a limb and buying it. It's easier to look at trends. If the majority of people like it, you're bound to not hate it anyway. The other way to know is as with us and Zelda, from past experience with the Zelda franchise games.

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You said that TP has a darker mood to it... well... thats true... but really... what 3d Zelda game hasn't had a dark mood in it?
But you're talking about single temples and creatures. All over the story is more darker, gloomier and in a Hyrulean sense more controversial. Their entire world is corrupted now, as opposed to certain areas. I suppose one of the reaseons OoT was more popular was because of the darker tones shown in the game. Especially when Link is an adult.
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I like to think of myself as a hardcore gamer and fan, and I believe the game wilhave good sales. I thikn this becuz Miyamoto finally woke up and realised all the original players of Zelda like myself are in Highschool as I am or in theyr 20's, if they want too appeal to us they must make the game darker, more complex and more violent. As they seeemingly have done
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Old 03-20-2006, 06:59 PM
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Of course TP with sell, it's a zelda game, who cares what system it is on, every gaming site and magazine are dying to get their hands on new TP info as is. Zelda is like Mario, and when a new true mario game ever comes out, you can't walk 2 feet without hearing about it.
Many parents are willing to dish out 70-120 bucks for a GC or 150-200 for a revo (I would assume the parents would buy the revo after talking to a game sales associate), hell many of my friends are willing to buy a GC just for TP, and I'm really one of the only hardcore gamers at SAIC.
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TP will sell for sure,probley will sell better then TWW.And I dont think Nintendo is going to be going any time soon.They seem to have gamers loving them.Let the gamers be 8 or 15 we love Nintendo and for ps and x-box everytime I see a new game for one of those systems its just one of the hundreds of sequels.All Nintendo has to do to stay alive is make like and internet connection thing and some new really good games.
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