Older graphics better gameplay?

I was wondering wether anyone would enjoy Zelda tp with Older graphics and a great gameplay. I know that they have futhered the release date so the can "enchance the games levels and graphics" But i for one would enjoy good graphics and an excellent gameplay and story.

Graphics are onething but gameplay and story make the Game

I am confused. What do you mean by "old graphics"?

I mean Ocarin of time -Majoras Mask
That period of time

To tell you the truth, I don't think we need to worry about great gameplay in Twilight Princess no matter what the graphics.

What i'm saying is that so many developers are to concentrated on graphics. I would rather have great gameplay.
Has the magic of story and gameplay gone and instead left Graphics in it's place.
Story and gameplay anyday

Game devs need to improve the graphics to keep up with the times. They aren't leaving gameplay or story out at all by doing this. Infact it probably helps out the sotry and gameplay.

Really you belive this think about recent stinkers you have played the most probably had great graphics. Am i right?
Think back to Starfox Adventures

Originally Posted by DRK_LINK05

Really you belive this think about recent stinkers you have played the most probably had great graphics. Am i right?
Think back to Starfox Adventures

Great graphics can only make a game better. Bad gameplay is what makes them stink.

Starfox had great graphocs but the gaem was crap.
Some games have crappy graphics but are the best i have ever played.

Rare is the only company that focuses more on graphics than gameplay ever since SFA. Other games like SSBM, Halo, F-Zero GX, ect have great graphics AND gameplay. I doubt Nintendo would delay a game just to un-improve the graphics, that would just be plain stupid.

Originally Posted by Thunderslf

Rare is the only company that focuses more on graphics than gameplay ever since SFA. Other games like SSBM, Halo, F-Zero GX, ect have great graphics AND gameplay. I doubt Nintendo would delay a game just to un-improve the graphics, that would just be plain stupid.

Oof coures it would be stupid. I'm not saying that they should " un-improve graphics@ i'm saying that devlopers should focus more on story. Graphics are great i'm not saying they arent i'm saying maybe they should concentrate on story more.

Are you complaining about good graphics?

They might focus alot on graphics to cover up some poor gameplay. But I don't think that good graphics usually comes at the cost of bad gameplay (there are exceptions.)
Story on the other hand, is an aspect that gets too much attention in todays game. Especially when they usually end up crappy and extremely B anyway (Silent Hill 2 is probably the only game I'd say REALLY has a good storyline.)

i for one would prefer my games to have good graphics. remember at the time it was released oot had great graphics. i think that every big game nintendo releases such as zelda, mario, metroid etc always have graphics that are amongst the best at the time of its release. that is one problem i have with tp. i dont want to be playing a game that looks like it should have been released two years ago when ps3 and rev are showing their stuff. i think that this is going to be something that hurts nintendo big time if they wait to release tp closer to rev launch.

I really don't care about graphics as long as- what was stated before, the gameplay and story are good. (music is a key factor too. I hope the music is good!)

I wish they'd make a DS game with graphics similar to OOT.

Rereleasing OOT on DS would be great but they might screw it up like they tried to do on SM64 DS...

Personaly I don't worry about grafics so much. I just want them to have the basic grafics for that system. Then it's good enough. I don't need super grafcs, just basic for the system.

Originally Posted by DRK_LINK05

What i'm saying is that so many developers are to concentrated on graphics. I would rather have great gameplay.
Has the magic of story and gameplay gone and instead left Graphics in it's place.
Story and gameplay anyday

Uh... are you talking about TP? Because they have the graphics done now. That has nothing to do with the delay: they're now working on the game itself. Get your facts straight, young 'un.

What i think your saying is, theyve delayed it to make it better, add new levels and graphics. you would rather they pur this extra time into ONLY gameplay and not worry anymore about graphics, as opposed to working on both.

Because if thats your stance its faulty. The gameplay is set. they cant change teh gameplay without taking an extra 3 years, it would require them to compltely remake the engine and formula of the game. Similar thing with the graphics. the lighting engine and animations are done. What they are doing (i assume, seeings as we've seen from the demos that gameplay and graphics are intact) is adding more content. an extra dungeon here, a secret cave there, maybe refine some of the textures, work on the score, work on the 'slightly different' approach to speech they were talking about.

The miyamoto philosophy is that gameplay comes first, and graphics and story are supplementary. the gravy on the roast if you will. But its a very push/pull system. Killer 7 was designed to be an interactive story more so than a game. so what you got was an incredibly original and unique story, with some of the most stylish visuals ever, but the gameplay wasnt up to par with the other two categories. didnt make it bad, just not your conventional game.

Story doesnt matter. the story is just there to move teh gameplay along (or vice versa in killer 7, but thats an odd beast) and/or keep the player enthralled. Fire emblem had awesome gameplay accompanied by a story that kept the player playing to see what new revelations would come up next. The story in Zelda has you colleting X number of ancient relics in order to finish the game, which is just an excuse for the developers to put you into all these unique dungeons.

An example of a game with no story is DK jungle beat. You just go from one level to another, and beat DK's rival at the end of them. simple. nothing to it. I dont know why these pigs are trying to hurt me, the point is, im having fun.

People think story is important, that they play for the story. but the dont. in GTA:SA, you sit at the edge of your seat waiting to find out whats going to happen next. not because the layered plot is so enthralling you just want to see what the next twist is going to be (fyi. there isnt really any) but because you want to see what the games going to get you to do next. whether its steal a stealth fighter off an aircraft carrier, commandeer a truck while its still on the freeway, or dump a tonne of cement on a foreman. these cnstant new gameplay element keep things fresh, and THAT's why the game was so enthralling. not because of the story.

Zelda has never really been one for story, but tWW did have a pretty decent one imo. The graphics are never bad, as the production values in them are A-grade, big budget, long deadline (which always gets bigger) and the best in the business. The gameplay's done. its the tried and true zelda witha few new additions to keep things fresh and interesting (wolf, animals, plus all the other things like canoeing and gale boomerang and such) and the graphics as we've seen are the complete opposite of bad. If the graphics are better, more power to them, if not, then they are fine how they presently are.

Also, i was just thinking, you are saying make the gameplay better, but define better? how can you make the gameplay better? is it how fun the game is? beause if so, it will ALWAYS begin at a ten with zelda, merely because of the novelty value the game will have when you firts get it. "OMG THIS IS AWESOME LINKS SO COOL... WOOT!!!1!1111!!!"
but the further in you get, the more it wears off, and more you get used to seeing these new things. the only way they can make the gameplay 'better' is to make it different, ultimately. it will be a good game, with classic zlda gameplay, which is in no way a bad thing, but maybe you should think of what 'better' gamneplay would mean

We like the old graphics because they represent what good gaming is all about...
The new zelda's are great, but the feel of the old ones is better...

It just Nostalgia...
I mean almost all games for n64 we're good, even the bad ones...(If you know what I'm mean) , but the bad ones now are just bad...