The great war

has anyone else thought that Nintendo should do a game on the great war? It bothers me, Link's parents died during it but you never get to see what the great war was really like

Well seeing the first trailer of TP Everyone was guessing it was the War which we heard about in OoT. But it has been comfirmed that OoT is the very first game in the Zelda timeline.

But with all the action in TP...With those boar riders. Its looks like there will be so sort of war.

Originally Posted by V99

Well seeing the first trailer of TP Everyone was guessing it was the War which we heard about in OoT. But it has been comfirmed that OoT is the very first game in the Zelda timeline.

But with all the action in TP...With those boar riders. Its looks like there will be so sort of war.

Actually since TP comes some time right after Oot I thought that this war that could be going on during TP could actually be part of the Imprisoning War. But that is too much of an assumption because that would be like me saying the ALttP prologue states the events of TP and I have no proof of that. But it is an interesting theory though.

I personaly don't see the reason for a Zelda game to be based on the Great War. What is it. Just a big controversey and misunderstanding amoung the races of Hyrule about who had the Triforce of knew the whereabouts of its location. No reason for a game to be made about it. Although it would be interesting but where is the plot? All there is is just a bunch of fighting going on. Nothing more.

maybe the great war mentioned in OoT was eventually looked at as a battle in an even greater war?

This would involve the Hylians emerging victorious in the first battle, followed by Ganondorf's dominance, then Link overcoming his reign....and then another battle sequence

the possibilities are endless until the game is released, and plus we would need miyamoto to give a true timeline. We will never know what really has happened.

Originally Posted by V99

But it has been comfirmed that OoT is the very first game in the Zelda timeline.

yes but in the future they could make a game that takes place during the war and they could say that one is now the first game in the timeline. I don't think that TP is during the great war, but maybe it could explain why ww link's parents are gone.

All that i Know for sure about the timeline is that TP is after OoT and, obviously before WW. With that said, I think that this is near the end or at the end of the great war.

Originally Posted by AcidRain

yes but in the future they could make a game that takes place during the war and they could say that one is now the first game in the timeline. I don't think that TP is during the great war, but maybe it could explain why ww link's parents are gone.

But thats lame if they do that, Changing the storyline.

Well it could be the wwar mentioned in WW, couldn't?
That the boar riders and the twilight enemies are seprate forces, one led by Ganondorf and the other by not yet mentioned leader. First he fights Ganon's forces but then finds himself changed in the Twilight, after defeating the boss, Link finds that he is unable to return. Thus letting Ganon's forces roam freely throughout Hyrule throwing it into darkness.

This will mean that the game will have a sad ending...


And for a storyline in the great war, Hyrule is in war. A prophecy exists that says that a child will be born who will bring peace back to Hyrule. Your job is to first save the parents , and then after the parents have unfortunatly died in a heroic ending. Protect the child and bring it to the Lost Woods. Then you have to defeat the enemy forces so that Hyrule will come in the state it is when OoT begins.

There could very well be a war in Twilight Princess, but definitely not the one mentioned in Ocarina of Time because it's been established that is the first game in chronological order. And prequel? I don't think its necessary at all. But as LOZ Historian said, it could probably be a portion of the Imprisoning War depending on your outlook on the timeline. Any war concept will do greatly, I don't really care if its one that is recalled later on.

I think that there should be a war going on during a zelda game.But have link in a background role doing the temples and all that.While link is completing his quest he'd encounter enemy camps,scouts,and later in the game be involved in a large scale battle,Or(just thought of this) while your completing your quest youll encounter battles on hyrule fields.Like if you were riding and saw the hylian forces battling some enemy forces and you can choose to be involved or simply ride on.That,i think, would be awesome.

Let me remind some of you that the Great War was a civil war that took place in Hyrule before the events of OoT. The Deku Tree Sprout tells of this civil war to Link as an adult. The war was fought among all the races of Hyrule because one of the other thought someone had the Triforce or knew about it's whereabouts and therefore much controversy came over the matter and a war broke out amongst there assumptions on one another. At some point it was said that a king came and brought peace and order to the land and united the kingdom of Hyrule into a country. Thus the matter over the Triforce was hushed, but still a Geredo in black armor sought to find the gate to where the golden power laid come the past years afterwards…

TP cannot depict the Great War because the war comes before OoT. The Imprisoning War however took place some time when it was said much evil came forth from the Evil Realm. Perhaps that evil is the Twilight that is taking over Hyrule and is imprisoning some of the areas in Hyrule and warps you into the Evil Realm/Twilight Realm? I know the ALttP prologue speaks of Ganondorf escaping the Evil Realm and the King ordered seven sages to seal him in the realm and lock the entrance. Thus the evil spread no more and Ganon was forgotten over time up until ALttP. Since Ganondorf is going to be in TP I think there is a good chance that this war will happen during TP. I’m pretty confident that TP will connect OoT to ALttP finally. I hope so. That would be awesome for the timeline.

This whole Great War thing suggested one thing to me from the instant I began reading this thread: A Dynasty Warriors-style hack-and-slash where you can play through story modes of important officers on both sides including Ganondorf himself and perhaps Link's mother and father. And perhaps a New Officer Mode where you could create a Goron or a Zora or a Gerudo (all those just examples) and choose a side and play through the Great War as an original character. *sigh* Just thinking about it makes me want to boot up my PS2 and play Dynasty Warriors again. Aaaaaanyway, yeah, uh........ That'd be pretty cool. Wait... Just got an idea. Gotta go!

But thats lame if they do that, Changing the storyline.

The only time that's been stated was in a mistranslated interview. Besides, in OoT there are clear evidence of an earlier legend. I'm referring to the fact that the Master Sword is a legend and the Sages have been gathered before.

Let me remind some of you that the Great War was a civil war that took place in Hyrule before the events of OoT. The Deku Tree Sprout tells of this civil war to Link as an adult. The war was fought among all the races of Hyrule because one of the other thought someone had the Triforce or knew about it's whereabouts and therefore much controversy came over the matter and a war broke out amongst there assumptions on one another. At some point it was said that a king came and brought peace and order to the land and united the kingdom of Hyrule into a country. Thus the matter over the Triforce was hushed, but still a Geredo in black armor sought to find the gate to where the golden power laid come the past years afterwards…

TP cannot depict the Great War because the war comes before OoT. The Imprisoning War however took place some time when it was said much evil came forth from the Evil Realm. Perhaps that evil is the Twilight that is taking over Hyrule and is imprisoning some of the areas in Hyrule and warps you into the Evil Realm/Twilight Realm? I know the ALttP prologue speaks of Ganondorf escaping the Evil Realm and the King ordered seven sages to seal him in the realm and lock the entrance. Thus the evil spread no more and Ganon was forgotten over time up until ALttP. Since Ganondorf is going to be in TP I think there is a good chance that this war will happen during TP. I’m pretty confident that TP will connect OoT to ALttP finally. I hope so. That would be awesome for the timeline.

That the Great War was a civil war fought between the races is pure fan fiction. No where in the game is that revealed, and there's even evidence against it.

The Sheikahs and Zolas are long-time allied to the Hylians, and the Kokiris didn't fight in the war. Darunia is the Sworn Brother of the King, so he must have been an ally. Now only the Gerudos and Deku Scrubs remain. However, the Gerudos does not bow to the King of Hyrule at the time of OoT. Therefore, they cannot have lost any war against the Hylians. And to be logical, they had too much to lose. I doubt the Deku Scrubs can have fought the Hylians, Gorons, Zolas and Sheikahs on their own.

Furthermore, in the manga Link have a dream where his mother escapes from a burning castle. There are ruins of a castle close to Lon Lon Ranch. I count the manga as semi-canon; if it doesn't contradict the game, then it's canon. And with the ruins in the game, it seems rather suspicious.

That's the first trace of different kingdoms, not races, fighting. The second is TP. How do you think a small village can be allied to a kingdom?

As for the 'Imprisonning War', even the word is a mistranslation. A more accurate translation is Sealing War, which explains the Japanese version of the legend better. The Japanese version mentions the Wise Men sealing the source of evil, and the King did not order them to do it. In the alternate future of OoT the gate to the Dark World is already sealed, as hinted by both Zelda and Rauru. So, I'm pretty sure the Sealing War is when Ganon attacks Hyrule.

Well you may be right but lets look at the ALttP prologue and see if anything relates to the Great War in TP possibly.

Long ago, in Hyrule, a beautiful
kingdom surrounded by forests
and mountains...

legends told of an omnipotent
and omniscient Golden Power
that lay hidden.

It was hidden in a sacred
realm beyond the reach of men,
but one day...

...a doorway to that realm
was suddenly opened...

Hoping to claim the Golden
Power as their own, the people
began to quarrel and fight...

Many sought to enter the
hidden Golden Land...

But none returned, and instead
evil power began to issue
forth from the dark portal...

So the king commanded seven
sages to seal the gate to
the land of the Golden Power.

Many brave knights were lost
in the battle to protect the
sages from the tides of evil,

but the seal was cast! Evil
flowed no more! And the seal
would remain for all time...

Or so the people hoped...

Well here it states about many people fighting to get into the Sacred Realm, but I tend to believe like some people, that the Twilight Realm is the Evil Realm. And if the gate is open to people's acess then that would explain the reason for how the Twilight draws you into the realm and how evil starts to flow from it. Maybe Hyrule is at war for the Triforce? But then again it gives similar reference to the Imprisoning War of how the Sages Seal the gate to the realm. Unless we see knew sages in TP this may make since. But the Great War seems to also give refference of coming before the Imprisoning War in some ways. I still think the Great War happened before OoT when a King came and united the Kingdom of Hyrule.

Well seeing the first trailer of TP Everyone was guessing it was the War which we heard about in OoT. But it has been comfirmed that OoT is the very first game in the Zelda timeline.

But with all the action in TP...With those boar riders. Its looks like there will be so sort of war.

You're wrong. Well most of you. The imprisoing took place when Link was sealed in the temple of time. Plus in TP it is not a war. The bours took over Hyrule and Link fights them all to stop them. Whne there on the hill top there is only 17 creatures and Link fights them by himself. It is just a small battle and there is no war. Hyrule dosn't have solders just guards.

Originally Posted by dracodragon9

You're wrong. Well most of you. The imprisoing took place when Link was sealed in the temple of time. Plus in TP it is not a war. The bours took over Hyrule and Link fights them all to stop them. Whne there on the hill top there is only 17 creatures and Link fights them by himself. It is just a small battle and there is no war. Hyrule dosn't have solders just guards.

Wait, didn't the Imprisoning War take place after the Hero of Time? I don't recall Ganon's takeover of Hyrule given any specific name. And isn't the mention of it in the A Link to the Past manual? And no soldiers? Guards are soldiers. Hyrule definitely has an army, at least in Ocarina of Time, whether that will be tangible in Twilight Princess is a different story. And yeah, the confrontation between the creatures and Link could be just a simple skirmish.

Originally Posted by data

they should make a game of it or explain it better

Explain it better? Nah. I don't think so. It was covered good enough, I would think. Its not as if it was incredibly signifcant and having it off scene adds to some well, I think storyline factor from one prespective.

by the looks of it, i've started an argument between wars/battles/ quests (whatever you're going to call them) i think the best thing to do (and this is only my opinion), is ask miamoto himself

Originally Posted by LOZ Historian