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Old 07-14-2005, 07:42 PM
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What would YOU prefer?

Though this thread may tie in slightly with the Zelda Timeline thread I think it can stand alone as it's own.

The question is: What would YOU prefer...Twilight Princess to be before or after Wind Waker? Both options seem to have there ups and downs. At first I thought it was kind of stupid to have TP after WW. I thought it would be really cool to see a game that happened after OOT/MM. Now, the more I think about it, it may be better if TP did happen after WW. It would have to take place centuries after Wind Waker. By making it after WW you could not only make connections to WW in the past but also OOT/MM.

If you sqeezed TP in between OOT and WW it would seen a little strange. Mainly because there really are no conncetions to TP in WW...

What does everyone think? Please put some effort into your posts so you're not spamming up the thread. Say something more than just "TP would be SO SWEEET if it happened after OOT, PWNAGE!!11!!"
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:58 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I want TP to be before WW and after OOT/MM. Why? because I think that would be the best place to but it in the timeline.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:00 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

TP is before TWW and after OoT, this has been confirmed, and I am a true fan of the true canon. So I would say I would like for it to be in the place it is supposed to be.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:01 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

lolz oot 4 m3!!!11 , well no, not really. =/

To add to that there's a great possibility that the game can connect to ALttP, of course this meaning being set after TWW (Unless you support a two timeline theory), I would think that due to the whole Twilight Realm, a war, Triforce influence (see the introduction to ALttP, TP kind of as far as I can gather fits into it). Where it takes place I would say is after TWW simply due to the fact that the gap between OoT and TWW bears no heroes (at least according to the introduction, in which the Hero of Time was the only Hero since that point.)

I'd also like to think that it takes place after TWW because that's what my sources tell me. =P

Of course, being after OoT makes sense for a connection to ALttP too, that being if you support the Two-timeline theory. =|
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:05 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

TP is after OoT and before WW because like OoT it is set in ancient hyrule and WW was place over 100 years after that.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:12 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

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TP is after OoT and before WW because like OoT it is set in ancient hyrule and WW was place over 100 years after that.
That sounds much more like an assumption rather than a fact, can you give evidence to back it up being set in "Ancient" Hyrule, oh and please do not use "Because it looks like it" or "Because it's on land", they don't count. I just wish to ask that is using the whole "It was a mistranslation at E3/Not it wasn't" argument for it being set before TWW really too valid, it's still debatable, and (I asusme that) the debate will pick up here anyway.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:27 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

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TP is before TWW and after OoT, this has been confirmed, and I am a true fan of the true canon. So I would say I would like for it to be in the place it is supposed to be.
Thank you....yes I know this. The thing is lately, it has been a little unclear. It was just a hypothetical question.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:12 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I would rather have it after, strictly because I don't apperciate two Links' acomplishments to be just swept away by the flood. But I have little basis for my opinion other than that.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

Thank you. Some one understands. It's as if the OOT Link and TP Link mean nothing. Boom they're gone and WW Link is the only one that lives. Meh, I don't know.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I want it to be between OoT and WW.

First of all, it would be more interesting. I don't want to continue right where I left off from WW. Putting it before WW makes sense. It would explain how darkness (Twilight) spread across the land, and that a hero never rose. The Twilight Realm is portrayed in grey scale, much like Old Hyrule in WW. It just makes snese. The only problem is that for this to happen, your quest to save Hyrule would have to fail, which I'm not sure I'd like. Still, a very sad and dramatic final cut scene with Hyrule being flooded could be amazing.

Secondly, if this were after WW, where did all of the water go? I think it is pretty much an impossibility for this to be the Hero of Winds. It would have to take place ages after WW.

Well, that's all I can think of for now. I think Twilight Princess should make a better connection between OoT and WW.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:04 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I'd rather have it between OoT and TWW for several reasons.
For one thing, if it's post-TWW there'd have to be some lame explanation as to how Hyrule was revived after its destruction. Hyrule was destroyed in TWW. It's gone, sealed away forever at the bottom of the ocean. It would be so stupid for the very next big game in the series to undo that, and it would make TWW's story less poignant.
Additionally, there are plenty of plot holes between OoT and TWW. What were the actual consequences of the time-travelling in OoT? How did Ganon escape into Hyrule? What happened with the Master Sword between OoT and TWW? What specific circumstances resulted in the gods to destroying Hyrule? It would be lame storytelling for Nintendo to just more on without addressing any of those details.
Plus, a game taking place between OoT and TWW would have an intense atmosphere, for you'll know the ultimate fate of Hyrule the whole time. And the Flood at the end would be extremely dramatic, and it wouldn't necessarily have to make all Link's efforts futile. It would be very interesting to see how the events leading to the Great Flood play out.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:48 PM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I would like it to be after tWW, because then TP Link is not doomed to be forgotten by the people of the Great Sea. Poor Linky. It just seems to take place too soon after OoT to make sense.

Bertha: Well, Flora, looks like ol' Ganondorf's at it again. Destroying Hyrule and the like.
Flora: Third time this century, Bertha! Hooligan!
Bertha: Thank goodness for that Link boy that keeps poppin' up with his Triumph Forks and that beaut of a lassie... Zelda, was that her name?
Flora: Aye, good lass, good lad.

It's like we have past 2D games more separated from each other, and the 3D Zeldas clustered around OoT like needy orphans. Bad orphans! No more gruel for you! Having TP set after tWW would make me feel like I cried for the last 3 minutes of the game watching all that... you know... sad... stuff-- and be rewarded with seeing what happens to Hyrule after it's finally drained and I never have to play Wind's Requiem EVER AGAIN. It also supports my Midna=Ganon's Sword theory, which, come hell or angry moderator, I will support. Go MGS:Theory! It's just more open-ended in terms of what you can do with the plot.

OoT-->TP-->tWW would be interesting too. If it was the fault of TP Link or not, there's a good chance you could see the flooding of Hyrule, which would probably make me cry some more. Okay... bye. *sniff*
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:05 AM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I beleive that the prologue in tWW gave as a fine story that doesn'y need to be explained, it's all their in black and white, or rather, black and off-white.

Peace reigns over Hyrule, then Ganon comes back, link is not there, boo hoo. The Goddesses flood Hyrule, big deal, and all is lost.
Sounds perfectly fine to me, I see no need to further explain this with a game.
Knowing ahead of time what is going to happen is like watching starwars III.
Sure it was a very fun movie, but, we already knew the ending, all that mattered was how lucas pulled it off. He did a good job for the most part, but an essential magic was absent in that movie, the magic of "The Ride".

What is THE RIDE you ask? Well, THE RIDE is what we feel when we have no idea what to expect of somthing, when we play a game or see a movie for the very first time, with little or no information regarding the plot and other fun details.

Playing OoT I got THE RIDE, for the most part, I thought Zelda was dying, then BOOM! I slap the game in, and I got to partake in an intense one time experience. I knew nothing regarding the story, zip, nada, so everything, EVERYTHING was new.
I got the same experience with tWW.

I don't want to play The Legend of Zelda III, Revenge of the Sith, I want to play somthing new and freash, I don't want to play a game knowing full well that all my exploits are utterly useless, and will not be remembered by future hylians. I want my adventure to go down in the book of mudora, I want to be known throughout the ages.
I don't want to play 70+ hours only to see Hyrule get flooded, thats just plain dumb.
Making a Zelda title to which the fans already know the plot is an insult to use the fans, and to anouma, and nintendo.
Doing that makes Anouma a cheapskate, and it makes use seem like we need everything spelled out before us.
The magic of Zelda lies in the fact that we use our imaginations, we are able to think up our own Hyrule Fantasies.
TP needs to be after tWW, tWW only needs to be mentioned a little bit. Hell, do we even need an official explaination to the drainage of the great sea? Why can't we use our imaginations? Are we really that dumb as Zelda fans?
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:02 AM
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I would like for the story to occur after the events on WW, and on a different Hyrule (the new country Link and Tetra had found). Think about it. A new place would mean different locations, and a chance to rediscover the Zelda saga.
I also would like for the main villain to be someone else, instead of Ganondorf. Forgive for saying thisI like the guy as much as the next person, but isn't the story of the Triforce becoming just a tad boring? (it's shattered, reunited, shattered again... for how long?)
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:11 AM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I'm just gonna say it nice and easy: after WW.

Why? In my opinion it would make a lot more sense for reasons that have been explained way to many times, so I'm not gonna write them again.

Just one more thing though, all in all I don't really give a damn about the timeline that much, if the game is good I'll be more then happy.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:34 AM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

I'd say after OOT and before TWW.

I hope that in TP the goal isn't to defeat Ganon but to make sure that Zelda will be safe.
So Zelda will go live on the sea (when it's there) and Ganon doesn't know here she is.
Link decides to go live on some island, and creates the green-clothes tradition. Years later the Link of TWW will be born and defeat Ganon.
So in TP I hope you're not going to destroy evil but make sure Zelda is safe, and then the gods will stop evil with all the water. (and ofcourse you'll have to ask the gods)
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:35 AM
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Re: What would YOU prefer?

Now, if the game did take place between OOT and WW, I would love to see the TP Ganon to be somehow connected to the one in WW. I'm not sure if they will though seeing as everything is new and seperate from the series.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:29 PM
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I would like for the story to occur after the events on WW, and on a different Hyrule (the new country Link and Tetra had found). Think about it. A new place would mean different locations, and a chance to rediscover the Zelda saga.
I also would like for the main villain to be someone else, instead of Ganondorf. Forgive for saying thisI like the guy as much as the next person, but isn't the story of the Triforce becoming just a tad boring? (it's shattered, reunited, shattered again... for how long?)
First of all, we don't even know if Link and Tetra found a new land, and even if they did, it wouldn't be a Hyrule. Secondly, I think it was proven that Ganon would be in the game (there should be a couple threads about it somewhere). Thirdly (about the triforce storylines), that's what we have games like LA, MM, and TMC for.

I'd just rather have it between OoT and WW, they could fit it in without very much dispute if they did it right. I mean the Hero of Time story was told all across the land and was a pretty famous legend, while as the story of TP could be relatively unknown, you never know. I wouldn't want it after TP because I've always just believed Hyrule stays flooded after WW.
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:02 AM
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:16 PM
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i would want it between OoT and WW because it could set you up for some big surprises and tricks. you could be under the impression that link will fail but in the end he does something valient and couragous to save the day...or somethin like that
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