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Old 03-04-2005, 11:03 PM
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should there NOT be a sheild?

Okay, this thread has nothing to do with LoZ 05, and if that is all you care about, do not look at htis thread whatsoever. but, it is about zelda WAY in the future. ive done some thinking, and i thought, would it hurt to have two swords instead of one sword and a sheild? i thought it might be cool, but, others might think differently.
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Old 03-04-2005, 11:38 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

Yeah, maybe cool for some other game... but not for Zelda. Link is two well established as a Sword/Shield swordsman. Two swords is to Animeish. Unless of course you're talking two lightsabres in which case I say "rampage!"

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Old 03-04-2005, 11:38 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

Why? Because it will make Link look cooler? Adding another sword while removing the shield does nothing to enhance gameplay but raise the coolness factor. In otherwords, it isn't something a smart company like Nintendo would do. I would expect that sort of thing from a company like EA.

Maybe if you had the option to equip two swords rather than a shield. That would work. It wouldn't add much to the game like I said, but it would be good for variety I guess. It would have to be done in a way that gives you both advantages and disadvantages of using 2 swords. But they have to give you the option at the very least.
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:27 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

I think it would be cool to strap your sheild to your back and pick up a relativley same-sized enemies sword. Plus, the biggorons sword didn't sffect gameplay all that much but really raised cool factor. W/ the goron tunic, Link could freeze over from coolness
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Old 03-05-2005, 01:20 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

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Why? Because it will make Link look cooler? Adding another sword while removing the shield does nothing to enhance gameplay but raise the coolness factor. In otherwords, it isn't something a smart company like Nintendo would do. I would expect that sort of thing from a company like EA.

Maybe if you had the option to equip two swords rather than a shield. That would work. It wouldn't add much to the game like I said, but it would be good for variety I guess. It would have to be done in a way that gives you both advantages and disadvantages of using 2 swords. But they have to give you the option at the very least.

Agreed. I think Zelda 05 has every reason to have a duel weilding system ala prince of persia.

However, in PoP it was just an option. There were few moments in the game in which Duel weilding was more effective that single weilding. If anything, I stole enemy weapons to continuesly chain attacks together. If the game had've put you up agianst LARGE groups of enemies at a time, duel weilding would've been more effective.

I can imagine the Zelda combat with two swords easily. Make it alot like the biggoron sword: boost offense but take away the ability to use the shield forcing the player to rely on dodging.
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Old 03-05-2005, 01:43 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

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I think it would be cool to strap your sheild to your back and pick up a relativley same-sized enemies sword. Plus, the biggorons sword didn't sffect gameplay all that much but really raised cool factor. W/ the goron tunic, Link could freeze over from coolness
The biggorons sword did effect gameplay, it made killing enemy's easier and you couldn't rely on your sheild as defense, it completley changed Links fighting style from defense and offense, to just offense and possibly dodging and countering.That is an effect on gameplay.

As for the two sword issue like most people I think it's cool but I also think it could work just make it an option to swith between a single sword and sheild and a double sword and no sheild.It would work just like the biggorons sword did more on the offensive end forcing a player to give up defense, which would balance it out.Whats wrong with two swords being more of a cool component then a gamplay enhancing one, the graphics are cool but they don't enhance gameplay and everyone seems cool with that.
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:53 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

i think the sheild option should be there, but should evolve. if link presses R at just the right moment, he will push his opponent off guard for a breif moment. if he hits it normally, normal defense.

besides, he looks better witha sheild on his back.

i think he could have two swords, but he could still have the sheild, just not use it as long as he has the swords both out. similar to the biggorns sword. both his ahnds are full, so no sheild.
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:29 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

I do not think this is a good idea. It is too essenctial to gameplay to lose your sword. So my vote goes against have to sheilds... That's my thoughts.


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Old 03-05-2005, 11:03 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

If the shield takes a more integral role this time around (I barely used it in The Wind Waker), then yes, it should stay. A dual-weilding system (that Tigerboi suggested) would be kind of out of place in a Zelda game. I'm all for weilding enemies' dropped weapons, though, so long as it becomes a bit more important this time around. Also, it shouldn't be a replacement for new sub-screen weapons.
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

i love the shield, it's been there since day one, lets just keep it there, and besides, link is kind of like a knight not a ninja who weilds two swords, one sword, and one shield is good enough for me
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:13 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

I dunno, I think that wielding two swords would be a good idea. Kind of like in the second installment of Prince of Persia. As it has already been stated, if you look at the screenshot closely from Zelda 2k5 Link is not weilding the master sword yet at the end of the trailor the master sword goes through the "Z" in Zelda. So Link does not have the master sword right away but a differant sword but when he finds the master sword there would be an option of weilding both swords. Just my .02
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Old 03-05-2005, 04:52 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

Imagine though that instead of a shield, you could have any object in your other hand, not just another sword.
Wouldn't it be cool to complete puzzels or slay enemys that you use your hookshot and as you pass something you have to strike it with your sword?
Or maybe in a dark area, like a cave, you hold a tourch in one hand and your sword in your other.
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:12 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

I'm not saying I don't want a shield. i would like a greater choice, which in turn would expand the puzzle possibilities. I would also like there to be harder monsters to fight so i would be forced to use my shield more. I also need my shield for playing super smash bros melee.
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Old 03-05-2005, 06:12 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

If shields were taken away then so would a lot of the depth and strategy of the fighting system. The shields should stay. Being able to pair up weapons is an interesting idea though.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:15 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

they could still have the shield but you could change wepons so
you wouldn't use the shield, like two handed sword's like ganondorf had in
WW, and in OoT you had biggoronsword and you couldn't use the shield with it.
and with the 2handed sword you could protect youre self too but only if the attack is with a sword or an axe but not if it is with a arrow that can go throgh the holes between the two swords together. And link would proteckt himself by crossing the swords like an (X)
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:39 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

OK!! then what what do you call the BIGGORRONSWORD?!?!?!?!!?!?!
that sword was in OoT!! and you COULDN'T USE the
SHIELD when you had the BIGGORRONSWORD. IS THAT NON ZELDA-ISH?!?!?!?!
so why couldn't we have this diffrent sword style in this NEW GAME?!?!?!?!

But you maybe haven't played OoT!!
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:15 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

How bout if you can only duel certain types of swords from enemies, or you'r own and one enemy sword. Your shield would have to be put away though. Just a thought
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

Dual wielding is too far removed from the Euro/Jap feel, too close to middle eastern fighting styles. Two-handed swords are acceptable, like in OoT and MM.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

Yeah, I side with some people. That would be awesome, but not Zelda.

That'd be a cool accquired weapon thing, though. Like you could have it as a weapon that you could set to X Y or Z. (C) And then you could be weilding like that Master Sword at the same time...

Wait that'd be hard. Uhh...
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:15 AM
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Re: should there NOT be a sheild?

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Yeah, I side with some people. That would be awesome, but not Zelda.

That'd be a cool accquired weapon thing, though. Like you could have it as a weapon that you could set to X Y or Z. (C) And then you could be weilding like that Master Sword at the same time...

Wait that'd be hard. Uhh...
Well, they already have that in MM. Its the great fairys sword. awsome.
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