I don't want a direct tWW sequel...

This is really silly, but...

When I finished tWW, even though we don't know what happens next, I liked it. It left open so many ideas for me. I've actually been having dreams lately of a Wind Waker cel-shaded sequel, very vivid and a bit strange but nonetheless very cool. Anyway, it's just fun to think about what happened next.

I don't mind if the new Zelda takes place in the New Hyrule about 200 years in the future. I think it will - evidence is...
1. Yes, the graphical style. Some think it's the same Link from tWW, but I seriously doubt that. A complete graphical change in 7 years time? No, no, no.
2. No islands. King Nohansen made it clear that the legacy of Old Hyrule would never see the light of day again. I don't think draining the ocean will happen. First of all, how do you drain an ocean??? Second of all, it would go against the entire spirit of tWW - confronting the past and facing the future. What good is that if you just drain the damn ocean and go against a King's dying wishes? I think Miyamoto wanted to emphasize the fact that the Old Hyrule is gone, and that Link and Tetra are the scions of the New Hyrule.
3. A castle that looks pretty old. I doubt Link and co. could build such a beautiful castle in 7 years.

Basically, I want there to be a time between tWW and ZGC where cool stuff happens. I don't think it would fit in at all for ZGC to be right after tWW.

Thoughts?
BTW, looking from the pictures, I have a hunch that the next big boss is some kind of Dragon King. Maybe he wants to take back the land Link and Tetra founded?

No one ever said it will be a direct sequal.

Don't you people read the interviews and news? An interview just confirmed that the new game will fall after TWW in the timeline. And also, Ro-Ro487, that interview also stated that it will be released at the end of 2005 in Japan, not the summer.

Probably they will give an approximate release date on E3 as the game is finished already. Question is if they release it a x-mas to make more money.

Originally Posted by matrixfusion

1. Yes, the graphical style. Some think it's the same Link from tWW, but I seriously doubt that. A complete graphical change in 7 years time? No, no, no.

Graphical style has nothing to do with how far after The Wind Waker the next game takes place. There have been multiple interviews in which various high-up Nintendo employees have said that the new graphics are to emphasise the idea that Link has grown up, and the world he is in is not one of joy anymore. Let's face it, The Wind Waker was pretty lighthearted, and this next game will most certainly not be. Visual style is used to enforce this idea.

Originally Posted by matrixfusion

2. No islands. King Nohansen made it clear that the legacy of Old Hyrule would never see the light of day again. I don't think draining the ocean will happen. First of all, how do you drain an ocean??? Second of all, it would go against the entire spirit of tWW - confronting the past and facing the future. What good is that if you just drain the damn ocean and go against a King's dying wishes? I think Miyamoto wanted to emphasize the fact that the Old Hyrule is gone, and that Link and Tetra are the scions of the New Hyrule.

Yes, the islands are gone. That means that either Old Hyrule somehow came back, or they found a New Hyrule. Doesn't mean that the next game doesn't take place after The Wind Waker, nor does it mean it takes place 200 years after.

Originally Posted by matrixfusion

3. A castle that looks pretty old. I doubt Link and co. could build such a beautiful castle in 7 years.

There is very little seen of the castle in the trailer, but if you think there's too much wear and tear on it to be new, then that means one of two things: the game takes place in Old Hyrule, or the castle had been around a long time before Link found it.

Originally Posted by matrixfusion

BTW, looking from the pictures, I have a hunch that the next big boss is some kind of Dragon King. Maybe he wants to take back the land Link and Tetra founded?

What supports the Dragon King idea? All Zelda games have had lizard-like enemies.

From what I can tell, none of your evidence is that conclusive.

I swear i will get that person who keeps earasing my posts but i heard of another game coming out from nintendo power, it is called The Legend Of Zelda: Majoras Mortgage

Originally Posted by Ro-Ro487

I swear i will get that person who keeps earasing my posts but i heard of another game coming out from nintendo power, it is called The Legend Of Zelda: Majoras Mortgage

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Anyways, Why does everyone think that this next game takes place on WW's Hyrule? "Hyrule" is the name of a nation and/or the world, when it says that Hyrule was flooded it's rather clear that it refers to the nation, after all, the King, who knows more about the flood then anyone, tells them to go look for a new Hyrule. Yet so many people cling to the idea that there can't be a new Hyrule, that all the world's water will have to be magicaly transported into space.

Yes.. it's kinda funny, Ganon_dwarf. Funny in a sad way.

Originally Posted by Ro-Ro487

I swear i will get that person who keeps earasing my posts but i heard of another game coming out from nintendo power, it is called The Legend Of Zelda: Majoras Mortgage

From what I know,the only people who can erase other people's posts are the mods, and they generally do that on good reason.And Majora's Mortgage?!?!!?HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA!!!!!!!!.....Sorry.Anyways, we can't deduce anything from a one minute trailer.Many things may have changed.However,I have a hunch this game will take place some hundreds and so on years after WW, when Link and Tetra found a new land, and began creating a new society.Then, hundreds of years later,some new evil pops out, and a new Link rises to defeat it.Of course, this is nothing short of pure speculation, and one of the infinite possibilities,so don't take me seriously, maybe the new evil WILL be Majora, planning on freeing Ganon,or something...I dunno.
EDIT:Oh,and the release date stated on the interview was a mistranslation,as some people may have already guessed.It has been confirmed by Nintendo already that this game will be in the US this year.Or,at least that's what they said on IGN.Makes sense to me.

lol ok they set sail to find a new hyrule, the King wanted the old Hyrule to be washed away that means well no more old hyrule lol so now they search for a new one, and thats where the new zelda game takes place. not the old one becuase as stated before how would you drain a ocean, well i mean if you got the triforce then yea ok then it could happend if you wanted it like that, otherwise i dont think it will happen lol

Old Hyrule is washed away. the King immobalized the bubble that kept Hyrule asleep under The Great Sea. so, the Old Hyrule is gone. the King told Link and Tetra/Zelda to go and find new land and start another world or wutever there where they can live in peace. this new Zelda will take place on the new land. don't think u'll adventure in the Old Hyrule anymore. drain that out of ur minds.

u adventured in the Old Hyrule in "The Wind Waker", they won't use the same idea on this new one. especialy if they made us wait this long for it.

my main question has been answered due to this interview, and that is "Will this new Zelda game follow the order of "OoT-MM-tWW"? and it seems that it will. my next main question is "is this a direct sequel like MM is to OoT? or is it a distant sequel like tWW is to MM/OoT?"

well, the thing is it was a new interview in a french magazine that prompted this. It's really dumb, sorry, but I just have this cool idea of what happens in the hundred or so years after tWW and I didn't want them to be destroyed....
anyway, the new game looks more and more like it will be far in the future.

I think the old Hyrule is gone its done bye bye. Its under the ocean and as said you cant drain a ocean. I think Link travels and finds a very similar Hyrule that maybe the towns people from the old hyrule remade.

Originally Posted by MasterSword625

I think the old Hyrule is gone its done bye bye. Its under the ocean and as said you cant drain a ocean. I think Link travels and finds a very similar Hyrule that maybe the towns people from the old hyrule remade.

The only thing we know about the societies, buildings and so on, is a castle. With Triforce and bird signs on it. But that can be done in months. Maybe they just found that castle emptied and made a few changes when they came there. I see 2 alternates.
If it is the same Link as in WW, they couldt have built that castle. A castle takes many many years to build.
Whatever the situation, it isnt impossible that Link goes back to Old Hyrule. We've seen him under water before. If the new Hyrule is somewhat close to old, then it is possible.

Originally Posted by AzKicker

The only thing we know about the societies, buildings and so on, is a castle. With Triforce and bird signs on it. But that can be done in months. Maybe they just found that castle emptied and made a few changes when they came there. I see 2 alternates.
If it is the same Link as in WW, they couldt have built that castle. A castle takes many many years to build.
Whatever the situation, it isnt impossible that Link goes back to Old Hyrule. We've seen him under water before. If the new Hyrule is somewhat close to old, then it is possible.

Or, it could be a flashback to when Link was beneath the ocean in old hyrule... Just because they are Hylians doesn't mean they don't have the memory capacity to recall a few years back.

This new Title is a direct sequell of TWW, but thisn't mean that goes 7 years after!! It's obvious that takes place MANY (I mean HUNDREDS!!) years later of the succes in TWW, you can't contruct an Old & Ancient Castle in 7 or 10 years... it takes HUNDREDS of years ... why most of the people worried with unsense problems??!!! I mean, we only have a 1 minute video, and sudeenly are speculating about it, and with only speculations they worry theirself. first of nothing, let's wait until E3 for more info - Nintendo released something ... a few, let's wait until May to now more, don't worry about that.

And the question of Old/New Hyrule: will know about that in May ... I hope they say something about the background story... but, for we now until now (Zelda2005/2006 will go cronologically after TWW) looks like a New Hyrule, but MANY, MANY, MANY years after the Old Hyrule's flowing (until them, let's left the Old Hyrule under the water)

Saludos :cool:

I wanna direct sequel to tWW because I want to know what happened to the Great Sea.

Originally Posted by Nash

I wanna direct sequel to tWW because I want to know what happened to the Great Sea.

It is very likely that it is still there. I doubt that a sea that not even the Gods could just create (They had to use rain, remember, this water didn't just appear.) would just vanish for no reason. Why do so many people forget the end of WW? Link and the pirates sail off to find a new Hyrule, they don't sail off to drain the sea.

Originally Posted by Ganon_dwarf

It is very likely that it is still there. I doubt that a sea that not even the Gods could just create (They had to use rain, remember, this water didn't just appear.) would just vanish for no reason. Why do so many people forget the end of WW? Link and the pirates sail off to find a new Hyrule, they don't sail off to drain the sea.

it's not that poeple think that the ocean was drained it's mearly because all that you see in the trailer is open endless land, which one would think at first glance that the great sea was gone.

i personaly think that the sea is still there, and the land we see in the trailer is just some island that link and zelda found out in the ocean sometime after the events in WW, its the most plausible solution.(keep in mind islands come in all sizes, so you could build a new kingdom as long as the island is large enough.)

then again one could argue that some of the screenshots depict mountian's in the distant background.

Originally Posted by SwordsMan X

it's not that poeple think that the ocean was drained it's mearly because all that you see in the trailer is open endless land, which one would think at first glance that the great sea was gone.

i personaly think that the sea is still there, and the land we see in the trailer is just some island that link and zelda found out in the ocean sometime after the events in WW, its the most plausible solution.(keep in mind islands come in all sizes, so you could build a new kingdom as long as the island is large enough.)

then again one could argue that some of the screenshots depict mountian's in the distant background.

Even could be a entire New Continent, not necesarilly the Old Hyrule, the End of TWW opens a incredible world of posibilities, even the one who explain the changes in Hyrule world map, the discrepancies betwween the Hyrule in all the systems ... we know (I read it somewhere) that Eiji Aounoma is worring about the timeline and how this affect the game's background story, so that end is the perfect choice to fix up the things - originally the don't think in something like that the continuity and all this stuff .. that WE fan really does.

Saludos :cool:

Originally Posted by Ganon_dwarf

It is very likely that it is still there. I doubt that a sea that not even the Gods could just create (They had to use rain, remember, this water didn't just appear.) would just vanish for no reason. Why do so many people forget the end of WW? Link and the pirates sail off to find a new Hyrule, they don't sail off to drain the sea.

I didn't know that they sailed of to find a new Hyrule, I thought they sailed off to find a new adventure. Thanks for clearing that up for me!