A Mature Zelda Title

Originally Posted by Rakshael

I actually like happy endings. Maybe the way to the ending might be rough, and there could be some unsolved issues at the end, but for the most part I prefer that my heroes enjoy the fruit of their labor (get the girl, lots of money, regain the throne, what have you)

Well, I don't mean the ending being like, "...and then everybody died," I mean it would be cool for some sacrifice.

Originally Posted by Jasmine's Wrath

Well, I don't mean the ending being like, "...and then everybody died," I mean it would be cool for some sacrifice.

Kinda like " I beat ganon, but the people he's killed including my grandma/sister/what have you isn't going to come back"?


I think the main problem with immaturity in Zelda is the way the Gorons and Zoras tolerate each other in OOT. Less than ten years ago they started a civil war that killed many people, including Link's mother, but are now A-OK with each other. It doesn't even spark problems when you wear a Zora mask on death mountain, or a Goron mask in Zora's Domain.
I mean, there is still tension about the American civil war today, many generations after Lincoln's assassination, and yet these two races have forgotten a war that happened ten (fewer?) years ago.

Sorry to rant, but this has always struck me as an annoying attempt at child-friendliness.

Originally Posted by Mister Blak

Kinda like " I beat ganon, but the people he's killed including my grandma/sister/what have you isn't going to come back"?


I think the main problem with immaturity in Zelda is the way the Gorons and Zoras tolerate each other in OOT. Less than ten years ago they started a civil war that killed many people, including Link's mother, but are now A-OK with each other. It doesn't even spark problems when you wear a Zora mask on death mountain, or a Goron mask in Zora's Domain.
I mean, there is still tension about the American civil war today, many generations after Lincoln's assassination, and yet these two races have forgotten a war that happened ten (fewer?) years ago.

Sorry to rant, but this has always struck me as an annoying attempt at child-friendliness.

Pinkie Pie doesn't recall either the Gorons or Zora being the combatants in the civil war.

Originally Posted by Pinkie Pie

Pinkie Pie doesn't recall either the Gorons or Zora being the combatants in the civil war.

Really? I could have sworn they were...

Hmmmm....

Either way, like I said, there seems to be no tensions at all during this point in time. Even if it was between a different group of people, peace doesn't completely settle in ten (fewer?) years. The way Hyrule is totally idyllic (temporarily) in OOT has always been a real bugbear of mine.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

Like I said a few posts before:



TP is the first "Mature" Zelda game. But this is Australia's rating.

My Uncle worked at a few Gamestops over the years, and he said there is no M rating in Australia, but there's always a chance hes wrong.( I'm not saying he's right or wrong, considering the fact neither him or me live there..)

Originally Posted by Zelda & Mario Fan_3607

My Uncle worked at a few Gamestops over the years, and he said there is no M rating in Australia, but there's always a chance hes wrong.( I'm not saying he's right or wrong, considering the fact neither him or me live there..)

There's a pretty big chance he's wrong, as EL lives there.

Originally Posted by Calypso

There's a pretty big chance he's wrong, as EL lives there.

oh, I didn't know that...(Well, this just shows I really don't talk to lots of people I see on this website.........or check out their profile)

Originally Posted by Zelda & Mario Fan_3607

oh, I didn't know that...(Well, this just shows I really don't talk to lots of people I see on this website.........or check out their profile)

Her flag is Australia.

*slaps my head* i really don't look at the flags.....(Im not very big on detail unless im drawing........)

It's cool

I definitely find Zelda not as mature as I think it could be.... I would love to see a very violent, but clean game. I want to see Link stab through some people, but for it to not be too mortifying.

trust me, in SS when Impa got me ticked off, i wanted to hack the game so I could beat the crap outta her.

Originally Posted by Zelda & Mario Fan_3607

My Uncle worked at a few Gamestops over the years, and he said there is no M rating in Australia, but there's always a chance hes wrong.( I'm not saying he's right or wrong, considering the fact neither him or me live there..)

Originally Posted by Calypso

There's a pretty big chance he's wrong, as EL lives there.

Originally Posted by Cor Sicarius

Her flag is Australia.

Calypso is right (and yes I am an Australian citizen). TP is an M rated game here. I have both the Wii and NGC version as proof and you can't buy the game in some stores unless you provide a legal document of your age (strict laws here when it comes to video games).

I'm surprised that the rating for the game is lower when I went to the United States a few months ago.


To add to that, Skyward Sword is an M rated game in Australia as well.

Geez... what's it take for a game to be rated M in Australia?

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

Calypso is right (and yes I am an Australian citizen). TP is an M rated game here. I have both the Wii and NGC version as proof and you can't buy the game in some stores unless you provide a legal document of your age (strict laws here when it comes to video games).

I'm surprised that the rating for the game is lower when I went to the United States a few months ago.


To add to that, Skyward Sword is an M rated game in Australia as well.

Wow, really? What features constitute to an M-Rated game there? Here in the UK, we don't have letter ratings, we have age ratings. (3, 7, 12, 15/16, 18.) Sexual references, drugs and discrimination make a 15/16/18 depending on the company, but both SS & TP are rated 12.

Originally Posted by Left4Cuccos

Geez... what's it take for a game to be rated M in Australia?

Any forms of violence in the game (even something minor) can take the rating of the game so far up.

Because Link wields a sword and can kill, that is enough for the ESRB classification system in Australia to slap an "M" on TP and SS. For us, it is considered "mature" for younger ages as it contains material that may require a mature perspective but is not deemed too strong for younger viewers.

Originally Posted by Ningan the Lone Ninja

Wow, really? What features constitute to an M-Rated game there? Here in the UK, we don't have letter ratings, we have age ratings. (3, 7, 12, 15/16, 18.) Sexual references, drugs and discrimination make a 15/16/18 depending on the company, but both SS & TP are rated 12.

This is what we have here:



TP and SS (which are both M here) are for ages 15 and over.

Some MA15+ games here are banned, and R18+ games are banned all throughout Australia.

So, you can't play Call of Duty or Fallout in Australia?

Originally Posted by Red Shadows

So, you can't play Call of Duty or Fallout in Australia?

How do you live?

So if I'm reading that rating guideline right, you only need to be ~13 to fall into the mature category in Australia?

Originally Posted by Red Shadows

So, you can't play Call of Duty or Fallout in Australia?

I'm pretty sure Call of Duty is out here, but I don't know about Fallout.

Originally Posted by mzxrules

So if I'm reading that rating guideline right, you only need to be ~13 to fall into the mature category in Australia?

Pretty much, yeah.






Also guys, we're getting off topic here. Let's stay on track please.

Originally Posted by Red Shadows

So, you can't play Call of Duty or Fallout in Australia?

See here Red Shadows: List of banned video games in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (plus a few other games as well)