By looking back, the next game will probably be pretty dark.

if you look at the pattern of previous console games:

ALttP: dark (dark world, mind you)
OoT: not very dark
MM: VERY dark
WW: not at all
TP: Dark(and dull)
SS: not at all

so if this goes on, the next one will probably be darker, and a lot different since it's on a new console, which sounds like a really good recipe.

Oh look another petty and unnecessary sideswipe at TP, now I remember why I quit after a week when I first made this account.

By the way, you forgot FSA, whether FSA could be seen as 'dark' or 'not at all' it messes up the pattern making the theory redundant.

A game in which the Hero fails for the first time to stop Ganon and the iconic kingdom of Hyrule is destroyed beneath the waves, and the Demon Thief perishes with the Master Sword driven directly into his skull: NOT DARK AT ALL?

Yeeeaaahhh, NO.

There are more than six zeldas.

Originally Posted by Sanguiluna

A game in which the Hero fails for the first time to stop Ganon and the iconic kingdom of Hyrule is destroyed beneath the waves, and the Demon Thief perishes with the Master Sword driven directly into his skull: NOT DARK AT ALL?

Yeeeaaahhh, NO.

No, Wind Waker is not dark. Hell, Majoras Mask isn't even that dark -_-

Originally Posted by SirLinkus

No, Wind Waker is not dark. Hell, Majoras Mask isn't even that dark -_-

Majora was dark in its own way, i wouldnt say it was DARK AND SCARRY, but it was definately dark mentally.

Originally Posted by Sanguiluna

A game in which the Hero fails for the first time to stop Ganon and the iconic kingdom of Hyrule is destroyed beneath the waves, and the Demon Thief perishes with the Master Sword driven directly into his skull: NOT DARK AT ALL?

Yeeeaaahhh, NO.

What do you mean "fails for the first time"?
Link wasn't there to stop him because Zelda sent him back in time, so how can he fail if he didn't try?
WW was not dark because of its choice of graphics style and its obvious cutesy dynamics, yes, the mastersword was thrust into the head of Ganondorf, but there was no blood or anything to actually be scared of, thats what makes a game dark.

Originally Posted by Mad Man with a Box

but there was no blood or anything to actually be scared of, thats what makes a game dark.

Oh, so blood and gore is what makes a game dark? Um, no. People say MM and TP were dark and those games didn't even have any blood in them.

Personaly, A REALLLLLLLLY Dark Zelda game would be amazing.

ALttP: dark (dark world, mind you)-Not dark at all. It has a dark world, but the atmosphere is always somewhat cheery. There's rarely a moment where one gets the impression that it's dark. graphicwise, no. And there barely even is a story, so no. This game isn't dark at all.

OoT: not very dark- Graphicwise, no. Storywise, somewhat. I mean, you travel forward in time, and the familiar town you arrive in is totally destroyed with zombies in it. It has a few other 'dark' moments, but other than that no, this game isn't really dark

MM: Very dark- Graphicwise, no. Storywise, somewhat. There's a moon that will fall on a kingdom if you never use your ocarina. So what? That isn't any more dark than that one island (Great fish?) getting destroyed in Wind Waker. And that ACTUALLY happened. So, no, this game isn't dark.

WW: not at all- Storywise, this was probably the darkest of them all. AN entire kingdom gets destroyed, multiple people die, an entire island is destroyed, and there really is a hopeless atmosphere to the game until the end. I mean, you're just traveling around this huge sea visiting distant islands wondering if they'll ever connect and a true land will be formed or if the island inhabitants are doomed to slowly die out. Graphicwise, not at all. This game is pretty dark.

TP: Dark-To an extent. It's graphics aren't really that dark except for the Twilight Realm and the tilight sections, but I don't think that warrants for it to be called dark. Storywise, sort of. I mean, it *could* have been the darkest of them all had it been properly worked out. However, it wasn't, so I suppose it's only kind of dark. Overall, it's sort of dark, but not really.

SS: not at -Ok.

I imagine the next game will have 'dark' graphics (Assuming you classify OoT' and TP's graphics as 'dark'), and who knows about the storyline? I mean, we've really only been given one dark storyline ever that played up to it's full potential.

In my opinion from the only two Zelda games I finished which is aLttP and Minish Cap, I have to say that Minish Cap seems dark in the acoustic atmosphere and character design. Story-wise or graphic-wise no, but dark graphics won't work in 2D Zelda games.

Oh look another petty and unnecessary sideswipe at TP

Ignore it, the central idea of this thread is to discuss whether or not the next game will (or won't be) dark. You're just adding fuel to the fire of the TP hate and transferring here, so please, if you don't like it, then don't support it. :|

now I remember why I quit after a week when I first made this account.

You have the right to create and deactivate an account, so do so. You wouldn't be the first one to do so, so don't expect any praise. Meanwhile, we have to deal with this "crap" by either withstanding or ignoring it... Also, why are you here anyways if you quit?

By the way, you forgot FSA, whether FSA could be seen as 'dark' or 'not at all' it messes up the pattern making the theory redundant.

I wasn't necessarily dark, but it was a bit more serious than past titles.

What exactly is dark to you guys again? Textures? Or the story?

I hope the next game isn't "story dark". "Dark" games are either praised extensively or criticized. (MM & TP).

In SS, there are the Silent Realms and the Imprisoned. The latter eats Zelda's soul (despite her cuteness).

OoT is arguably dark. (Shadow Temple, Spirit Temple, The Well, Redeads, Dampes Grave, Marketplace as Adult, Links unsatisfying end, loss of Navi, etc.)

Originally Posted by SirLinkus

No, Wind Waker is not dark. Hell, Majoras Mask isn't even that dark -_-

But your definition of dark depends entirely on main protagonists dying onscreen and villains being irredeemably evil.

Which is kind of arbitrary. Majora's Mask is certainly "dark". Wind Waker is arguable at the very least.

My order of darkness in the Zelda series. Based upon a criteria which encompasses a lot of things.
Majora's Mask>Twilight Princess>OoT>AlttP>AoL>WW> the rest.

All Zelda games have dark elements.

The next Zelda game will be realistic to take advantage of the HD console.

Originally Posted by Raven497

Personaly, A REALLLLLLLLY Dark Zelda game would be amazing.

Okay, that's cool. you want a dark zelda. But what types of things do you want to make it dark?Are you sure it will be as good fleshed out as it is on paper?

I consider MM as very dark, storywise. You are only able to help so many people in so many days. If you don't go help Romani then she gets taken by aliens and her sister becomes lost in depression. The Deku Butler's son has become a twisted tree by Skull Kid. SEVERAL people die leaving behind loved ones, who wasn't saddened by Baby Goron, while you played Goron's Lullaby realizing that he will never see his dad again? Or by the fact that Mikau will never see his children (I'm assuming) be born?

Kafei has been turned into a child and Anju never stays for him if you don't help. And it is impossible to help everyone, someone dies, someone is disappointed, someone always loses no matter what. It's a very dark and depressing game.