Anyone got any ideas for a cool new Zelda game?

Originally Posted by Redthir

I'm not so sure I agree. As long as it's done well, yes. The way I see Termina is that it's basically a world where everything goes wrong. The most obvious way of making the sequel slightly different is the potential of a happy ending, but that in my opinion undermines the concept of Termina in itself. It's a difficult call really.

So you wouldn't like a sequel? Or do you mean you don't like my idea? Both okay, but I thought you liked my idea haha. My idea is largely about "loss and new beginnings, fear and hope, and at its core - good and evil." so what I have in mind wouldn't undermine the uncharacteristically dark, brooding tone of Majora's Mask, it would build upon it and then some, but I understand your pensiveness about a possible sequel because it would be hit or miss. On the other hand Majora's Mask was a hit or miss game and it turned out to be one of the deepest if not the best Zelda game so far. Risk is part and parcel of achieving great things.

Originally Posted by SkullDude

I don't feel like reading the entire post right now, but I have a few thoughts.

1. The song of seasons is a great idea independent of any of the rest of your ideas.

2. If you read Hylian Dan's article about Stone Tower, you will see that it's hinted that the people of Termina were favoring the Four Giants over the three goddesses.

3. I don't like the idea of bringing back Majora as the main villain, and I like even less the idea of having the threat again being a celestial body colliding with Termina. I think exploring the Fierce Deity and the Happy Mask Salesman would be more compelling.

Do have a read when you get time. Most of it isn't just pointless babble talk

1] Thanks . The Wii U has enough power to pull this off too so we can dream.

2] That's interesting. I'll have to look that up some time.

3] Okay, there could be a twist in the tale. Majora could be seen as an anti-hero, a bringer of truth as well as chaos. The main and deep rooted 'villain' would already exist amongst the people of Termina - the weaknesses that the inhabitants allowed to fester, their rejection of the Old Gods and their worship of false deities who were once helpers of the Golden Goddesses but grew power hungry and eventually chose to enslave a population in an ever repeating parallel dimension. Sure, they acted as protectors, but from what and at what cost? The truth? Their freedom? Majora would be dividing and conquering, yes, but he would only be bringing the frailties of the Terminians to the forefront and he would be a victim of his own insanity in trying to get some measure of 'revenge'. In his twisted mind this would all make perfect sense. Termina would bring out the worst in Majora and likewise he would bring out the worst in Termina.

Thoughts?

I think too much back-story could ruin the mysteriousness of some characters from the MM universe. Nintendo would have to handle this really carefully.

The Legend of Zelda: Crown of Eternity

Timeline: 500 Years after Spirit Tracks

Synopsis:

Unearthed during a dig in New Hyrule, Princess Zelda's team of top-notch scientists found an ancient crown. Thought to have belonged by an old king, it was placed within a museum along with other ancient artifacts.

This crown, unknown to the people of New Hyrule, actually belonged to the Demon King Demise, and it is a cursed object which can revive anything from the dead. Demise made it as a fail-safe incase he ever perished, but he wasn't expecting to be sealed away in the Master Sword.

One night, a large electrical storm (made by a new enemy, the current Demon King, Galven), strikes the Museum, and namely, the Crown of Eternity. This sends a large energy pulse throughout the museum, and activates all of the other artifacts. Unfortunately, many of them belonged to past evils. On the bright side, some artifacts also belonged to past good creatures. Namely, the Master Sword is reawakened.

A new Hero is awakened and must retrieve the Master Sword and defeat these ancient creatures and stop the crown of Eternity, along with Galven, before they can resurrect the original Demon King, Demise.





Background Information Outline:

-New Hyrule has successfully managed to jump into the victorian age with style. They have indoor plumbing, electric lights, and in some areas, even clock-work and steam-work automatons and systems.

-There are Victorian-Age Cities all over New Hyrule, but some places remain timeless. Namely, Goron Hot Springs and Fairy Grove.

-ST Link and Zelda devised a method to successfully seal any remaining evil under the Earth of New Hyrule, and at the same time keep any new evil out. This method was to add new Spirit Tracks around the land, and have Zelda place a blessing on them.

-The Museum that this all starts in is called the Museum of Ancient and Modern History, and has artifacts from as far back as the Era of Hylia, but as recent as the Battle of New Hyrule, in which ST Link saved the land from Malladus.








Artifacts (Museum Description):

1.) The King's Crown
The newest addition of the Museum, this Crown is thought to belong to the first King of Old Hyrule. While some say that they can feel an odd energy from this priceless relic, other's say they can see full apparitions when near it.

2.) The Master Sword
This sword is one which one of our founder's used to defeat a great evil near the where the Deku Isles and the Forest of Life stands now. Once thought to be lost to the ocean, it was found in an expedition under water northwest from where the Great Deku Tree stands now. Although stuck in an unbreakable stone, it is still shining like it was new.

3.) A Fossil of an Ancient Lizard
Found deep under water, it was carved from the stone that it rest in and brought back to New Hyrule. After close examination, it was determined to be Pre-Deluge and to have Bomb Flowers inside of it.

4.) Ancient Robotic Pieces
What seems to be just pieces of rubble and junk when first found were actually parts to what seemed to be an ancient robotic creature. While not enough to complete a full Unit, scientists are currently looking into a way to revive this being from eons ago.

5.) Ripped Piece of a Checkered Cloth
Unknown of it's origins, it dates back to before even records were kept. It was found inside of an ancient book, and may be a piece of tapestry or possibly a piece of ripped clothing.

6.) Statue of Captain Linebeck and the Original S.S. Linebeck
A golden statue of the man who helped save one of the founders of New Hyrule, Princess Zelda the 1st. Along with this statue, his boat was donated as well. These magnificent items were placed in the Museum by his decedent, Linebeck the 14th.

7.) Ancient Statues
What looks to be remaining pieces of two great statues, they were found drifting in the ocean. With one hand of gold and the other of stone, one must wonder what the rest of this statue looked like.









Characters:

Princess Zelda: The fair maiden, who also holds the sacred bloodline of the Goddess Hylia. She is a more rough-and-tough Princess, taking traits directly from her ancestor's alter-ego, Tetra.

Link: The Hero that is awoken to stop the Demon Uprising. Unknown to Link until the end of the game, he is also known as the Hero of Illusions.

Oken: One of Neko's last descendents. He is a young man, around the age of 24, and he is addicted to the learning every bit of history about New and Old Hyrule. Whenever Link needs advice about an artifact or about an item, or even needs a map to someplace deciphered, he can count on Oken.

The Queen of Fairies: Link's companion. When the Master Sword was reawakened by the Crown of Eternity, it zapped a wire in the Queen's head and she quickly came to the aide of Link. Unable to recall her past or her name, she simply goes by Q. She can analyze creatures, people, and some objects and tell you information about them. She also houses the power to control fire and ice, along with other abilities, and you can use these to your advantage at anytime (after you have unlocked them).

Impa: One of the Sheikah people. Following in line with her ancestors, she is Princess Zelda's caretaker. Although this Impa may seem a bit overweight, she is actually carrying many weapons under her attire. She is full of secrets and talents that not even Princess Zelda is fully aware of.

Demon King, Galven: The current Demon King, and the beast who started the events of this game. His main goal is to revive Demise to take over New Hyrule and the rest of the world. He has no idea about the Triforce, but he knows that Demise wants to get his hands on some powerful relic. He can control electricity, some kinetic energy, and teleport.












Areas:

1.) New Hyrule: The land that Tetra/Princess Zelda and Link, along with Zelda's Pirate Crew, found and made into New Hyrule.

2.) The Deku Isles and the Forest of Life: During the age of the Hero of Winds, the Great Deku Tree was creating trees to connect all of the islands in the Great Sea, and to create a large forest. He succeeded, and the Deku Isles and the Forest of Life is what was created. While cities do still exist on these Isles, most of the people of the Great Sea have adapted and started to live in the trees. In this area, there are 3 deities that rule the land, and they are The Great Deku Tree, Valoo, and Jabun.











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In an earlier post, I described to input my idea in regards to a prequel to Majora's Mask. Before I go into further detail, I will list important aspects of my game ideas

This game would answer the following questions

Who is Majora?

Who is Fierce Deity?

Who is Hylia?

Who are the Golden Goddesses really?

Who is the Happy Mask Salesman?

Why did Ikana fall?

(Odd one) What is the exact reason Ganondorf/Demise wants the Triforce so badly?

(Odd one) How was the triforce actually made? (Not Three Goddesses exit the world after creating it)

Who are the four giants?

What is the relation between Hyrule and Termina?

Why is music so important to the Zelda series?

Setting

Time: Before all previous Zelda Games (SWS included)

Place: A world where Hyrule and Termina are combined and of the same world (However the form of the world is more Termina-like)

Characters

Minra- Blind boy who is the son of the Kings Musicians, loves music, is rejected by others for being a blind person that is allowed to live

Nias (Placeholder Name)- Main protagonist, extremely gifted warrior, who discovers the powers of the sword Tydruim, the greatsword of space and time (Becomes the Fierce Deity)

Ver Du Ikana- Second to last Ikanan King- Primary Antagonist for part of the game

Hylia- The daughter of the King's Musicians, loves musics, has a mother-like relationship with Minra (This game connects the two worlds. It also explains how she becomes a goddess)

The Composer Brothers- The Ghost from Majora's Mask- They are the older brothers of Hylia and Minra

The Three- (Deku, Goron, Zora)- Friends that Nias meets while traveling the world

The Golden Goddesses- (are given a different, more detailed back story and are actual featured characters)

Maganas (Placeholder Name)- The original creator of the Zelda Universe, stops being seen as creator due to a certain chain of events

Hasmas- guardian god of all Termina/Hyrule

Story

The Ikanan conquest of the land was now in full throttle. The king of Ikana, Ver Du Ikana, had almost completley conquered the Goron's land and the Deku's land. In order to pass to the Zora's Land, he had to assault the Garo Kingdom adjacent to his. He then gathered his army and went straight to the only land that stood in his way, the Kingdom of the Garo.

Once the King of Ikana arrived in Garo territory, he was met with the news of his scouts that the Garo kingdom was already being destroyed by an unknown force. When he arrived in the kingdom's main city, he found that the unknown force had done exactly what his scouts had told him- destroyed the city. He began to scout the desolate location himself- everything was destroyed, at least half of the cities population had been decimated. When he came to the high point of city, he found the king's palace in ruin. Upon entering the palace, he heard a soft, infantile-cry echoing throughout the ashfilled and burnt halls. He followed the cry and was surprised to an infant in it crib. He then proceed to walk closer to the crib. As he neared the crib he stepped on what appeared to be a feminine form and then the crying stopped. He went forward to the crib and saw a infant, it eyes open, staring of into the distance and to his surprise, it was breathing, fine. He felt a hand of his back and turned around to find the female corpse standing up and saying "he did this" and then the corpse fell to the floor. Rather than be fearful of the infant, he held the child up and said, "With this child, I can rule everything." He hid the infant in his weapons bag and hurried back to the his army.

After Ver Du Ikana 'conquered' the Garo, he proceeded on to fight the Zora. In the next three years he finally conquered the Goron and Deku and began fighting the Zora. For the first part of the game (occurs over a period of 15 years), this is the state of the world.

More to come (sorry for the ackward transition from summary to fanfic style)

Gameplay

In this game Nias (who will become the Fierce Deity) uses a greatsword- a blade which requires the weilder to hold the sword with two hands. That being said, there is no physical sheild in the game

Because the greatsword Tydruim is the sword of space and time, the sword allows Nias to alter certain aspects of space and time. Therefore, Nias is given the ability to create matter (crystals in this case, got the idea from the appearance of the Fierce Deity's sword), portals, change form, alter gravity, animate unliving objects, explode objects, and alter time. These abilities have diverse uses and abilities and can be used for combat as well as puzzle solving. So, without further ado, I will explain these abilities in further detail

Crystallization- This ability transforms enemies into crystals. Depending on the enemie, these crystallized versions of enemies can be used as platforms, weight, projectiles (with gravity push), and bombs. However, once Nias gets animate, He is allowed to take control of the enemie crystallized body. Each and every enemie has different implication i.e. (fly creatures act like the beetle from SWS).

Portals- Inspired completley by one of my favorite games, Portal, this game mechanic allows portals to be made along different surfaces to allow instant travel from one location to the next. Anything can travel through the Portals be it enemies, Nias, and items he carries

Animate- A far more useful Dominion Rod. Nias uses this ability to bring life to unliving objects. This is includes item such as crystallized enemies, statues, and pots. Inorganic enemies i.e. Beamos/Armos can be controlled by this ability as well. Essentially, the ability has far range of uses and can be used for a variety of things.

Alter Gravity- Allows Nias to change the direction of gravity. This ability can also be used in midair allowing certain platforms to be reached

Gravity Push/Pull- (Inspired by Half Life 2's Gravity Gun) This ability allow has two uses. Firstly, it extends the radius at which you move objects. Secondly, it can also turn the object into a projectile

Crystal Bomb- Through the fusion of particles inside objects, Nias can force objects to explode. This can be applied to any object

Transformations (I am not sure about this idea, I would like to know others thoughts about it)- By utilizing the essense of other species, the sword Tydruim allow Nias to transform in other species, albeit, in a crystallized form

Plant Form-

Rock Form

Aquatic Form

Good ideas, but why is Majora a being set on destroying everything? I'd like to see a prequel not a sequel.

He got banished from his home planet, got completely shunned by his race, became a spiritual entity enduring massive amounts of pain and arrived in a place inhabited by what he'd consider to be lesser beings. He feels disrespected, disorientated and angry. The Terminians would be collateral in attaining some measure of revenge against the powers that be in his home land.

A prequel would be better though. I'd like an origin's story for the Ancient Ones some day.

I forgot to say, but feel free to tweak any of my ideas.

I've always liked the idea of a game where you fight against the interlopers. Essentially, for each of the six elements there are 2 "Incomplete" sages. One is naturally evil, the other naturally good. Six sages follow an incarnation of demise, the other have not awoken their sage powers but will follow princess zelda. Demise and the interlopers (the sages) try to find a way to get access to the sealed realm so he can wish upon the triforce for the power he once had in the times of old.

The game would start with Link, a ranch hand at Lonlon ranch (also a swordsman) who lives in kakariko village. He and Malon go on a trip to deliver some milk to a village near the forest when Link hears a struggle in the forest. He goes to checks it out to see a young girl being kidnapped by a creepy looking young woman. He sees several young kids trying to fend the woman off. The woman gets away when she summons an armoghoma which Link slays. he chases after the kidnapper to the first temple in the game: The Forest Temple. At the end, he rescues the boy, and the woman escapes again, summoning several armoghomas to fight you. Link beat them and you see her confronting several hylian knights out side of the forest, where Link engage in a swordfight with her, an Link fends her off and save the knights.

From what the knights saw, Link are given a recommendation to get into the army. They test Link's skills and Link become a squire in Princess Zelda's guard. Link and Zelda go to the gorons for political reasons, and Link stops another person form kidnapping zelda. Zelda and the knights then go to the zoran royalty to warn them about recent events. Laruto, a zoran priestess, gets attacked as well, but Link and Zelda take him down.

Link goes to the Gerudo desert in order to gain their support in the matter, and after proving himself the gerudo male (Ganondorf) agrees to have a meeting with the Hylian government. During this meeting, The interlopers attack and take control of Castle town and Hyrule castle. Zelda, Link, and Ganondorf escape after fighting another interloper. They learn for Ganondorf about the sealed realm having a power that can smite evil. The group heads that way and link finds the Master sword, but it isn't at full power. They have to find the sages of Wind and Earth (Fado and laruto) to complete the master sword, and while finding them you fight 2 more interlopers who try to get them to find the way into the sealed realm (Why they were kidnapped in the firstplace). Link gets access to the triforce with his full master sword, but gets interrupted by Demise and the interlopers. His friends hold them off as you run to the triforce, and he barely make it before him. He wishes for the ability to defeat evil, and the triforce splits between Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf. You defeat Demise in battle, but he wasn't able to be killed, even with the power of the triforce of courage.

The rest is a game of finding the last six incomplete sages and having one of the sages absorb the power of the other sage to make a "complete" sage. Demise wants to use the power to seperate the triforce from the threee who currently hold it, and Zelda wants to do it to defeat demise. Youu find all the sages and in defeat all the interlopers besides demise. You lay siege on Hyrule castle and go to defeat demise, but in the final attle his anti master sword breaks the master sword, which was required to deal the finishing blow on Demise so he could be sealed away. Ganondorf tries to take your place and deliver the final blow.

However, the gerudo have strong ties to the original Demise, so he takes over Ganondorfs body and connects himself directly with the gerudo male's reincarnation. Link and Zelda chase him to the temple of time, and use the power of the sages to separate the triforce from the three of them, and link wishes for the master sword to become whole once again, which allows him to fight Ganondorf in a final battle.

The interlopers for the differeent elements would be:

Forest: Ghoma, an female arachnomancer.
Fire: A Dracomancer who summons Volvagia at some point in the story.
Water: A mysterious spirit that can become the reflection of anyone it meets. Becomes Dark Link in the final fight.
Light: Undecided
Shadow: The man with one eye. Becomes bongo bongo.
Spirit: Koume and Kotake when they were young.

The good guy sages would be based off of the ones in oot. The sages of earth and wind would be Laruto from wind waker and fado from oot.

Cool.

Can you tell something about the Temples/Items?

Sure, I'll work on those next. =]
Thanks for the support! ^_^

Sure, I'll work on those next. =]
Thanks for the support! ^_^

The one thing I didn't like was that Link is "the hero of illusions" it sounds...weird and besides there is nothing that justifies the "illusions" part.

Sorry if it sounds to arsh!

The Illusions will be explained in detail later.

But basically, the crown creates "Illusions" of past enemies to wield the weapons and items and stuff.

I think that Link should have an item that he uses.
In WW he used the ~Wind~ Waker and he was the hero of ~winds~ because he controled the direction of the ~wind~

In OOT he had the Ocarina of ~Time~, he could travel in ~time~ and he was the hero of ~time~

A good name, since it is the Crown of ~Eternity~ Link could be the Hero of ~Eternity~

But of course, hero of illusions will probably sound alot better after your explanation.

I like the premise! It's a nice crossover between the New Hyrule stories following Wind Waker and the classic Master Sword stories stemming from Skyward Sword. It's like you're connecting the very beginning of the timeline directly with the very end of the timeline, and you make it work so well! I like the idea of the King's crown being the central object. Keep up the good work!

Originally Posted by Eldír

I think that Link should have an item that he uses.
In WW he used the ~Wind~ Waker and he was the hero of ~winds~ because he controled the direction of the ~wind~

In OOT he had the Ocarina of ~Time~, he could travel in ~time~ and he was the hero of ~time~

A good name, since it is the Crown of ~Eternity~ Link could be the Hero of ~Eternity~

But of course, hero of illusions will probably sound alot better after your explanation.

I suppose it could be up for debate. Once I flesh it out more, it may be changed. =]

I'm currently working on Temples and Items.

I'm working on a new Zelda game idea where the story starts in New Hyrule, after the events of Spirit Tracks. It'd be like a present-day city (with skyscrapers and stuff, very similar to the actual big cities of the world). People of New Hyrule wouldn't believe in the three godesses anymore, and the Hero of Time would have become mere legend.
I'll be uploading the whole story line and some artwork of the charachters and cities in a post when I'm done with all the work. Do you like the idea?

Yay, temples and items!

The concept of your game sounds nice. Please expand upon it.

Dude, that would be awesome. I would like a HARDCORE Zelda RPG. More gear, items, NPC`s, etc.

I'm sure someone's already said this, but I would like to see a game about the creation of majora's mask.

I think, as a sequel to twilight princess, they should make a game where link is somehow pulled into the twilight relm, and midna helps link find a way out. he travels across the land of twilight in search for the one thing missing in the relm. light.