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View Poll Results: Which Link is in the Zelda '05 Gamecube game?
The Hero of Time (OoT, MM) 21 39.62%
The Hero of Winds (WW) 7 13.21%
A Link from another game 1 1.89%
A completely new hero 12 22.64%
Who cares? Link is Link 12 22.64%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-28-2004, 02:10 PM
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Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Most threads related to the upcoming Gamecube Zelda '05 game tend to mutate into a debate of whether the game features the Hero of Time (OoT, MM), the Hero of Winds (WW), or some other Link. Instead of bringing this up on other threads, just go into an all-out debate on it here.
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Old 07-28-2004, 04:11 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

First of all, I voted merely on what I'd like to see, which is the Hero of Time. No, not because I'm an OoT fan-boy junky, but because in my potential timeline, it would make sense. And I think it's the Imprisoning War.
But Hylian Dan, no one knows what it is, so what's this thread's point? What we'd like to see? Because as of now, there is so little information.
Oh, and your last poll option doesn't fit in with the other 4. The "who cares? Link is Link" doesn't really have anything to do with Link being the Hero of Time, Winds, or another...
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Old 07-28-2004, 04:30 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I made this thread because if you look at other threads related to this subject you'll notice that a lot of people throw in their opinion about which Link this is, and other people often argue with it, despite the lack of evidence. I made this thread so people could argue it out here and stay more on topic on different threads. The fifth option on the poll is for people who don't care which Link this is.
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:30 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I dunno... but all evidence in tWW says that the Hero of Time was supposed to come again eventualy but didn't... maybe now is his time.
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Old 07-28-2004, 11:07 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Perhaps the return to the less cartoony graphics indicates a return to the Hero of Time?

Heh... yeah, I'm reaching. It would be nice, though
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Old 07-29-2004, 12:13 AM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I dont think it is the Hero of Time, because the Hero of Time already did his job. Wouldnt be fair to make the same hero do all the work.

It makes sense to be the Hero of Winds, because every Hero seems to have done two adventures:

Hero of Time: OOT and MM
Hero of ???: ALTTP and LA
Hero of ????: LOZ and AOL
Hero of Winds: WW and ????? *coughZelda2005cough*

It would make sense to be the Hero of Winds, but who know with Nintendo.
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:27 AM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Ganondorf himself admits that Link the "hero of winds" is the "hero of time" reborn. That doesn't necessarily mean he is an exact clone or copy or that the hero of time's soul is just in a new body, all it means is that the two Links are AT THE VERY LEAST equal, yes they are equal in terms of being the hero who saves the day. Now does it really matter? IMHO choice 5 is the only way to go here ;P

Link is Link, he is there (most of the time) to fight back against evil.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:55 AM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I think It's a sequel to OOT, so I'm choosing it's the Hero of Time. I'm just getting my idea from the graphical and the layout of the game and that's it.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:19 AM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Judging from an interview with Shigeru Miyamoto, it's the sequel to The Wind Waker. Therefore, it's going to be the Hero of Winds in the game.
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Old 07-29-2004, 05:26 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Does it make a difference? It seems to me that the Hero of Winds and the Hero of Time are merely two different names for the same individual; Hero of Winds simply being the term now that the Temple of Time is no more.

Sear, I do believe the interview with Miyamoto said 'Wind Waker II' in quotes, which doesn't necessarily mean that it is, indeed, a sequel. I hope it isn't personally, but we'll just have to wait and see. I'd rather they start a whole new storyline and keep it going rather than constantly starting from scratch like they tend to do.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I hope for the Hero of Time, though I doubt we'll get him.

And I don't think that the Hero of Winds was equal to him. Ganondorf was running on low power for much of the game and still kicked his ass all over the disc on at least two seperate occassions. Without much difficulty (read: none), either.
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Old 07-29-2004, 08:20 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I personally believe this is the Hero of Time, even though various interviews and trends in the series hint this is the sequel to the Wind Waker. The game seems to be set in Hyrule, and it resembles the Hyrule seen under the ocean in the Wind Waker, meaning this game could occur between MM and WW. I also think this Link resembles the Hero of Time more closely than any of his other incarnations.
I seriously doubt that this is the Hero of Winds, because in WW Daphnes wished on the Triforce that Hyrule remains sealed away. If the Triforce still has any power left at this point, then the Great Sea won't be draining any time soon and WW Link will not be exploring Hyrule any time soon.
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Old 07-29-2004, 08:39 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Hmm...Personally, I hope it is the Hero of Time, though I doubt it will be. I really don't want it to be the Hero of Winds, but I'll be okay with it if it is. And isn't the Minish Cap coming out before Zelda '05? Wouldn't that have the Hero of Winds in it? And if it is, and Nintendo keeps to the pattern of using one Link for two games, wouldn't that make Zelda '05 have a different Link?

I would like having a new Link to the storyline, though. It makes me curious to see how he will fit in the storyline.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:04 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I just picked the one I HOPED it'd be, which is the Hero of Time. But I (like Serefina) wouldn't mind the introduction of a totally new Link.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:11 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Well we all know that everyone would love to see the Hero of Time return in all his glory but I beleave that it is the Wind Waker that will make his appearance in this new and incredible Zelda game. I say this for the fact that even though he is a teenager this does not mean he is the hero of time. In the E3 trailer you see that this more mature link is more laid back and has shaggy hair which would resemble The Wind Wakers Link if in Cel-Shading. I could be wrong of course it is to soon to tell but which ever link it is it is ZELDA and that is enough for me to want to get this game.
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Old 07-29-2004, 10:32 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

I can't find the interview, but Anji Anouma and Shigeru Miyamoto confirmed at E3 that this new Zelda game is Not (sorry about the bolding, but it's to make it stand out) a sequel to Wind Waker. I'll search for it and I'll post it when I find it.

I believe that it's The Hero of Time Link. From the screenshots that I have seen, Hyrule looks very similar to that of Ocarina of Time's Hyrule. It would make sense for it to be Young Link turning into a teenager in this game, and find out that despite the fact he defeated Gannondorf in the future, and he was sealed in the Golden Realm, that Gannondorf still lives in past and he only delayed the events to come.

Remember we never see exactly how Gannondorf took over Hyrule in Ocarina of Time, and this could be the events happening again without Gannondorf obtaining the Triforce this time.

Also if it is The Hero of Time Link, it may clear things up about Wind Waker and Majora's Mask to confirm whether there is actually two timelines or just one.
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Old 07-29-2004, 10:56 PM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kure
I can't find the interview, but Anji Anouma and Shigeru Miyamoto confirmed at E3 that this new Zelda game is Not (sorry about the bolding, but it's to make it stand out) a sequel to Wind Waker. I'll search for it and I'll post it when I find it.
Funny, I've seen an interview with Miyamoto saying the exact opposite. I'll quote it for you.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Shigeru Miyamoto
But since then, we've been left with a very big question: and that was, what are we going to do when we decide to make Link a teenager again -- a 16-year-old Link. So after Wind Waker we tried several different models and made varied versions of them. Ultimately we decided that in showing a teenage Link really the best style of expressing him would be something that's closer to our graphical style in Ocarina of Time. So Mr. Aonuma actually wasn't lying at the Game Developer's Conference when he said we were working on Wind Waker 2. He just didn't tell the whole story. And fortunately because he didn't tell the whole story, we were able to surprise you all here with a big announcement about the series.
Taken from Zelda Legends. I don't know how many times I've posted this link. And of course, there are the obvious connections between Zelda2005 and The Wind Waker, such as a similar official art style, similar tunic design for Link as that seen in The Wind Waker, a lack of the Master Sword, and the fact that there are Bokoblins in the new game, which don't exist in Ocarina of Time's time period - although it is possible to bring them in. Considering that they're exactly the same after hundreds of years, though, I don't think it's likely.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:00 AM
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Re: Hero of Time, Winds, or something else?

(it would allow me to quote it in my post)

Originally Posted by Shigeru Miyamoto
But since then, we've been left with a very big question: and that was, what are we going to do when we decide to make Link a teenager again -- a 16-year-old Link. So after Wind Waker we tried several different models and made varied versions of them. Ultimately we decided that in showing a teenage Link really the best style of expressing him would be something that's closer to our graphical style in Ocarina of Time. So Mr. Aonuma actually wasn't lying at the Game Developer's Conference when he said we were working on Wind Waker 2. He just didn't tell the whole story. And fortunately because he didn't tell the whole story, we were able to surprise you all here with a big announcement about the series.

This part But since then, we've been left with a very big question: and that was, what are we going to do when we decide to make Link a teenager again -- a 16-year-old Link. So after Wind Waker we tried several different models and made varied versions of them.

it's a reference to the graphical style that Nintendo was in a big debate about. They had switched over to the Cell-Shaded graphics but were in doubt about whether it would work in a Zelda game where Link was 16 years old. It isn't a reference to a sequel being made.

I checked on GameSpot, and they have confirmed that it is not a sequel to Wind Waker. I've been trying to find the interview where it's officially stated but no luck yet, but I know it's there. It was on GameFaqs but the topic is gone, I'll continue my search though, and if I find it I'll post it (now you've got me going and I won't give up until I find it).
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